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Welcome to the new Lansing, MI HDTV/DTV thread. Currently HDTV is available from seven sources: OTA (Over the air), Comcast Cable, BroadStripe Cable, D* (Direct TV), E* (Dish Network), at&t UVerse, and Westphalia Broadband. With Michigan's "Cable Franchise" laws changing after the '06 election, hopefully we will see some more competition in the area from new providers.

Previous Lansing, MI – HDTV Thread

The Lansing/Jackson DMA consists of the following counties: Clinton, Eaton, Hillsdale, Ingham, and Jackson

OTA Transmission Towers are located as follows:

Thanks to garybliev and WKAR for the updated map.

Having issues with an HDTV broadcast? Hook up an OTA antenna and check the broadcast signal (make sure the issue is not with a Cable or DBS provider). Best bet is to call the station and have them check with Engineering/Master Control. Typically they will not transfer you to MC, but politely ask if they can get a message to engineering or MC that their HD feed is not turned on or what the issue is (IE no audio on the HD feed, showing the wrong programming, etc). Emailing the station will not resolve the issue immediately, best bet is to spend 10 mins on the phone.

Antenna info from TheAntennaMan:
OmniDirectional "Saucer" antenna info
Antenna Installation Basics

These are all the numbers for the News line, but its the only 24x7 staffed phone line at the stations.

WLNS - (517) 372-1300
WILX - (517) 393-0110
WLAJ - (269) 388-9968 (This is WWMT in K'zoo, but they handle the Master Control for WLAJ. Make sure you specify that it is a WLAJ issue)
WKAR -
WSYM - (517) 484-8847 (Not sure if this is 24x7)

HDTV/DTV channels available:
OTA*: Channel Number – Broadcast ID (Digital broadcast channel) – Programming – ERP – Audio

6-1 – WLNS-TV (36-1) – CBS Affiliate – 984 kW – 5.1 Dolby Digital
10-1 – WILX-TV (10-1) – NBC Affiliate - 30 kW – 5.1 Dolby Digital
10-2 – WILX-WX (10-2) – Local Weather (SD)
18-1 – WHTV (34-4) – MyNetwork TV Affiliate (SD) – 13.6 kW – 2.0
23-1 – WKAR-TV (40-1) – PBS Affiliate – 50 kW – 5.1 Dolby Digital
23-2 – WKAR-SD (40-2) – PBS Affiliate (SD)
23-3 – WKARLIF (40-3) – WKAR Life (SD)
23-4 – WKARWLD (40-4) – WKAR World (SD)
43-1 – ION (44-3) – ION Affiliate (SD) – 212 kW –
43-2 – qubo (44-4) – qubo (SD)
43-3 – IONLife (44-5) – ION Life (SD)
43-4 – Worship (44-6) – Worship TV (SD)
47-1 – WSYM-TV (38-5) – FOX Affiliate – 646 kW – 5.1 Dolby Digital
47-2 – WSYM-SD (38-6) – FOX SD Simulcast (SD)
53-1 – WLAJ-TV (51-3) – ABC Affiliate – 900 kW – 5.1 Dolby Digital
53-2 – WLAJ-SD (51-4) – CW Affiliate (SD) – 2.0

Comcast Cable**: STB channel number – Guide ID – Programming

181 – NFLHD – The NFL Network HD
191 – DSCHD – Discovery Channel HD
192 – TLCHD – The Learning Channel HD
193 – APHD – Animal Planet HD
194 – SCFHD – SciFi HD
195 – USAHD – USA Network HD
196 – TBSHD – TBS Superstation HD
197 – FOODD – The Food Network HD
198 – HGTVD – Home and Garden Television HD
199 – NGCHD – National Geographic HD
200 – A&EHD – A&E HD
201 – FSNHD – Fox Sports Network Detroit HD
202 – ESPND – ESPN HD
203 – ES2HD – ESPN2 HD
204 – TNTHD – TNT HD
205 – HDT – HD Theatre
206 – – The Golf Channel HD
207 – VSHD – Versus HD
208 – UHD – Universal HD
209 – – Palladia HD (CMT/MTV/VH1)
210 – GRNHD – Planet Green HD
211 – SCIHD – Science Channel HD
212 – HISTD – History Channel HD
213 – CNNHD – CNN HD
214 – – Fox News HD
215 – HBOHD – HBO HD
216 – MGMHD – MGM HD
217 – MAXHD – Cinemax HD
218 – SHOHD – Showtime HD
219 – S-HD – Starz! HD
221 – LMNHD – Lifetime Movie Network HD
222 – AMCHD – AMC HD
223 – – Speed HD
224 – FXHD – FX HD
225 – E!HD – E! HD
226 – – Spike HD
227 – – Cartoon Network HD
228 – – Nickeloden HD
229 – ABCFD – ABC Family HD
230 – DISHD – Disney Channel HD
231 – WLAJD – ABC Affiliate
232 – WILXD – NBC Affiliate
233 – WLNSD – CBS Affiliate
234 – WSYMD – Fox Affiliate
238 – – Toon Disney HD
239 – – Lifetime HD
240 – WKARD – PBS Affiliate
249 – WILXW – Local Weather (SD)
250 – – Fuse HD
256 – HDOD – HD On Demand
256 – BTNHD – Big Ten Network HD
257 – – ESPNews HD
260 – IFCHD – IFC HD
261 – WEHD – WE HD
300 – HBOHD – HBO HD
319 – MAXHD – Cinemax HD
339 – SHOHD – Showtime HD
369 – S-HD – Starz! HD

BroadStripe: STB Channel Numner – Guide ID – Programming – Subscription Needed

201 – HBOHD – HBO HD – HBO
221 – S-HD – Starz! HD – Starz!
258 – SHOHD – Showtime HD – Showtime
400 – ESPND – ESPN HD – HD Tier
401 – DSCHD – HD Theatre – HD Tier
402 – UHD – Universal HD – HD Tier
403 – FSNHD – FSN Detroit HD – Expanded Basic
404 – NGCHD – National Geographic HD – HD Tier
405 – FOODD – Food Network HD – Expanded Basic
406 – HGTVD – HGTV HD – Expanded Basic
407 – TNTHD – TNT HD – Expanded Basic
408 – TBSHD – TBS HD - Expanded Basic
409 – AEHD – A&E HD - Expanded Basic
410 – HSTHD – History Channel HD - Expanded Basic
430 – HBOHD – HBO HD – HBO
431 – S-HD – Starz! HD – Starz!
450 – WLNSD – CBS Affiliate – Limited Basic
453 – WILX – NBC Affiliate – Limited Basic
454 – WILXW – Local Weather (SD) – Limited Basic
456 – WLAJ – ABC Affiliate – Limited Basic
457 – CWLAN – CW Affiliate (SD) – Limited Basic
459 – WSYM – Fox Affiliate – Limited Basic
462 – WKARD – PBS Affiliate – Limited Basic
463 – WKAR2 – PBS Affiliate (SD) – Limited Basic

DirecTV***: Channel number – Programming – Transmission Info

70 – HBO HD East – KU Beam/MPEG2
71 – Showtime HD East – KU Beam/MPEG2
72 – ESPN2HD – KU Beam/MPEG2
73 – ESPNHD – KU Beam/MPEG2
74 – Universal HD – KU Beam/MPEG2
75 – TNT HD – KU Beam/MPEG2
76 – HD Theater – KU Beam/MPEG2
78 – HDNet Movies – KU Beam/MPEG2
79 – HDNet – KU Beam/MPEG2
80 – CBS HD East – KU Beam/MPEG2
82 – NBC HD East – KU Beam/MPEG2
86 – ABC HD East – KU Beam/MPEG2
88 – FOX HD East – KU Beam/MPEG2
92 – HD PPV Events
94 – HD PPV Events
95 – HD PPV Events
96 – HD PPV Events
97 – HD PPV Events – KA Beam/MPEG4
98 – HD PPV Events
101 – The 101 HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
133 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
134 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
135 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
136 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
137 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
138 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
144 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
145 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
146 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
147 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
148 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
151 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
163 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
164 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
165 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
166 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
180 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
181 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
182 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
183 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
184 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
185 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
186 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
187 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
188 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
189 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
190 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
191 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
192 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
193 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
194 – Pay Per View HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
202 – CNN HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
206 – ESPNHD – KA Beam/MPEG4
207 – ESPNews HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
209 – ESPN2HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
212 – NFL Network HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
215 – NHL Network HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
217 – Tennis Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
218 – Golf Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
229 – HGTV HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
231 – Food Network HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
241 – Spike HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
242 – USA Network HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
244 – SciFi HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
245 – TNT HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
247 – TBS HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
248 – FX HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
249 – Comedy Central HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
255 – MGM HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
259 – Universal HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
265 – A&E HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
266 – Biography HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
267 – Smithsonian HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
269 – History Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
273 – Bravo HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
275 – Crime & Investigation HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
276 – National Geographic Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
278 – Discovery Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
280 – Learning Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
281 – HD Theatre – KA Beam/MPEG4
282 – Animal Planet HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
284 – Science Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
286 – Planet Green HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
290 – Disney Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
292 – Toon Disney HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
296 – Cartoon Network HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
299 – Nickeloden East HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
306 – HDNet – KA Beam/MPEG4
306-1 – HDNet Alt – KA Beam/MPEG4
311 – ABC Family HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
327 – CMT HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
331 – MTV HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
332 – Music HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
335 – VH1 HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
355 – CNBC HD+ – KA Beam/MPEG4
359 – Fox Business Network HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
360 – Fox News Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
362 – Weather Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
444-1 thru 449-1 – MLS Direct Kick HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
460-1 thru 469-1 – UEFA Chamions League/Europa League HD – KA Bean/MPEG4
390 – CBS HD East – KA Beam/MPEG4
391 – CBS HD West – KA Beam/MPEG4
392 – NBC HD East – KA Beam/MPEG4
393 – NBC HD West – KA Beam/MPEG4
396 – ABC HD East – KA Beam/MPEG4
397 – ABC HD West – KA Beam/MPEG4
398 – FOX HD East – KA Beam/MPEG4
399 – FOX HD West – KA Beam/MPEG4
501 – HBO HD East – KA Beam/MPEG4
504 – HBO HD West – KA Beam/MPEG4
512 – Cinemax HD East – KA Beam/MPEG4
514 – Cinemax HD West – KA Beam/MPEG4
518 – Starz! Kids and Family HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
519 – Starz! Comedy HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
520 – Starz! HD East – KA Beam/MPEG4
521 – Starz! HD West – KA Beam/MPEG4
522 – Starz! Edge HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
537 – Showtime HD East – KA Beam/MPEG4
538 – SHO Too HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
540 – Showtime HD West – KA Beam/MPEG4
541 – Showtime Showcase HD – KA Beam/MPEG4 (doesn't match SD location)
542 – Showtime Extreme HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
544 – The Movie Channel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
601 – NBAtv HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
603 – Versus HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
607 – Speed HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
610 – Big Ten Network HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
613 – CBS College Sports HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
618 – Fuel HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
628 – New England Sports Network HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
630 – Comcast SportsNet New England HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
631 – YES HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
633-1 – FSN South Alternate HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
634 – MSG HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
635 – MSG Plus HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
636-1 – MSG/MSG+ Alt HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
637-1 – MSG/MSG Plus Alternate HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
638-1 – MSG HD Buffalo – KA Beam/MPEG4
639 – SportsNet New York HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
640-1 – Mid Atlantic Sports Net HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
641-1 – Mid Atlantic Sports Net 2 HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
642 – Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
643-1 – Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD Alt – KA Beam/MPEG4
646 – FSN South HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
647-1 – FSN South HD Alt – KA Beam/MPEG4
648-1 – FSN South HD Alt – KA Beam/MPEG4
649 – SportSouth HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
653 – Sun Sports HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
654-1 – FSN Florida HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
655-1 – FSN Florida/Sun Sports Alternate HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
656-1 – FSN Florida/Sun Sports Alternate HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
659 – FSN Pittsburgh HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
660-1 – FSN Ohio HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
661-1 – FSN Cincinnati HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
662-1 – SportsTime Ohio HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
663 – FSN Detroit HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
664-1 – FSN South Alternate HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
665 – Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
666-1 – Comcast SportsNet Chicago Alternate HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
668 – FSN North HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
669-1 – FSN Wisconsin HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
671 – FSN Midwest HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
672-1 – FSN Kansas City HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
673-1 – FSN Indiana HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
676 – FSN Southwest HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
677-1 – FSN Southwest Alternate HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
678-1 – FSN Houston HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
679-1 – FSN Oklahoma HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
681-1 – Altitude HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
682-1 – Altitude Alternate HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
683 – FSN Rocky Mountain HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
684-1 – FSN Utah HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
686 – FSN Arizona HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
687 – FSN Northwest HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
692 – FSN West HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
694 – FSN Prime Ticket HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
696-1 – Comcast SportsNet Bay Area HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
697-1 – Comcast SportsNet Bay Area Alternate HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
698-1 – Comcast SportsNet California HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
699-1 – RSN HD Alt – KA Beam/MPEG4
718 thru 726 – NFL Sunday Ticket HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
721-1 thru 749-1 – MLB Extra Innings HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
751-1 thru 763-1 – NBA League Pass HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
770-1 thru 785-1 – NHL Center Ice HD – KA Beam/MPEG4
795 thru 799 – Nascar HotPass HD – KA Beam/MPEG4

Dish Network: Channel number – Programming – Notes
Lansing HD Locals uplinked to E12 at 61.5° TP7 on Spot 14

365 – Olympics Basketball HD – Mapped to 99
367 – Olympics Soccer HD – Mapped to 98
374 – Smithsonian HD
385 – MGM HD
394 – World Fishing Network HD
441 – HD Alternate Channel
442 – HD Alternate Channel
443 – HD Alternate Channel
531 – HD PPV
534 – HD PPV
535 – HD PPV
536 – HD PPV
537 – HD PPV
539 – HD PPV
540 – HD PPV
5180 – WLAJ TV – Uplinked but not available
5181 – WLNS TV – Mapped to 6
5182 – WILX TV – Uplinked but not available
5183 – WSYM TV – Mapped to 47
5430 – FSN Detroit HD – Mapped to 430
9419 – A&E HD – mapped to 118
9420 – TNT HD – mapped to 138
9421 – HD Theater
9422 – HDNet
9423 – HDNet Movies
9424 – ESPN HD – mapped to 140
9425 – ESPN2 HD – mapped to 144
9426 – NFL Network HD – mapped to 154
9427 – Universal HD
9429 – National Geographic Channel HD – mapped to 186
9430 – Showtime East HD – mapped to 318
9431 – USA HD – mapped to 105
9432 – SciFi HD – mapped to 122
9433 – Disney Channel HD – mapped to 172
9434 – ABC Family HD – mapped to 180
9435 – Starz! East HD – mapped to 350
9436 – CNN HD – mapped to 200
9437 – Travel Channel HD – mapped to 215
9438 – Weather Channel HD – mapped to 214
9439 – CNBC HD – mapped to 208
9440 – Cinemax West HD – mapped to 311
9441 – 5 Star Max HD – mapped to 314
9442 – Tennis Channel HD – mapped to 400
9443 – Biography HD – mapped to 119
9444 – Hallmark Movie Channel HD – mapped to 187
9446 – WGN America HD – mapped to 239
9449 – Toon Disney HD – mapped to 174
9451 – HBO Comedy HD – mapped to 307
9452 – HBO Zone HD – mapped to 308
9453 – HBO Family HD – mapped to 305
9454 – HBO Signature HD – mapped to 302
9455 – HBO 2 HD – mapped to 301
9456 – HBO East HD – mapped to 300
9457 – Planet Green HD – mapped to 194
9458 – Cinemax East HD – mapped to 310
9459 – HBO Latino HD – mapped to 309
9460 – Showtime HD
9461 – HGTV HD – mapped to 112
9462 – Food Network HD – mapped to 110
9463 – Cartoon Network HD – mapped to 176
9465 – HDTV Events
9466 – NBAtv HD
9467 – HD Pay-Per-View
9468 – Versus HD/The Golf Channel HD – mapped to 151/401
9469 – Music HD
9470 – Lifetime HD – mapped to 108
9471 – Lifetime Movie Network HD – mapped to 109
9478 – HBO West HD – mapped to 303
9479 – ActionMax HD – mapped to 313
9486 – Starz! Comedy – mapped to 354
9487 – The Discovery Channel HD – mapped to 182
9488 – The Learning Channel HD – mapped to 183
9489 – Animal Planet HD – mapped to 184
9490 – The Science Channel HD – mapped to 193
9491 – The History Channel HD – mapped to 120
9492 – Bravo HD – mapped to 129
9494 – ESPNews HD – mapped to 142
9495 – CBS College Sports HD – mapped to 152
9496 – Starz! Edge HD – mapped to 352
9497 – Starz! Kids & Family HD – mapped to 356
9498 – Starz! West HD – mapped to 351
9499 – TBS HD – Mapped to 139
9500 – Big Ten Network HD – Mapped to 439
9501 – Alt Big Ten Network HD – Mapped to 440
9502 – Alt Big Ten Network HD – Mapped to 441
9503 – Alt Big Ten Network HD – Mapped to 442
9504 – Alt Big Ten Network HD – Mapped to 443
9505 – Encore HD – mapped to 340
9508 – NBAtv HD – mapped to 403
9509 – NBAtv HD – mapped to 560
9514 thru 9519 – HD RSN Alternate
9540 – NHL Network HD – mapped to 402
9541 – NHL Network HD – mapped to 559
9542 thru 9555 – NHL Center Ice HD
9561 thru 9572 – NBA League Pass HD

AT&T UVerse: Channel Number – Programming – Category

1006 – WLNS-HD-6 (CBS) – Local
1008 – WHTV-HD-18 (MY NETWORK TV) – Local
1009 – QVC HD – General
1010 – WILX-HD-10 (NBC) – Local
1023 – WKAR-HD-23 (PBS) – Local
1047 – WSYM-HD-47 (FOX) – Local
1053 – WLAJ-HD-53 (ABC) – Local
1104 – Universal HD – Movies
1105 – HDNet – Movies
1106 – HDNet Movies – General
1108 – TNT HD – Movies
1112 – TBS HD – Movies
1116 – MGM HD – Movies
1118 – Smithsonian Channel HD – Educational
1120 – Discovery Channel HD – Educational
1128 – FX Network HD – News
1151 – Sci Fi Channel HD – General
1166 – A&E HD – General
1180 – WGN America HD – General
1181 – Bravo HD – General
1210 – Fox News Channel HD – News
1211 – Fox Business Network HD – News
1216 – CNBC HD – News
1225 – The Weather Channel HD – General
1250 – The Learning Channel HD – Educational
1252 – Animal Planet HD – Educational
1254 – Travel Channel HD – Educational
1258 – Science Channel HD – Educational
1265 – National Geographic Channel HD – Educational
1270 – History HD – Educational
1360 – Lifetime Television HD – General
1362 – Lifetime Movie Network HD – Movies
1420 – QVC HD – General
1450 – HGTV HD – General
1452 – Food Network HD – General
1465 – Planet Green HD – Educational
1470 – Wealth TV HD – General
1502 – Palladia – Premium
1602 – ESPN HD – Sports
1606 – ESPN2 HD – Sports
1630 – NFL Network HD – Sports
1640 – VERSUS HD – Sports
1641 – Golf HD – Sports
1650 – Big Ten Network HD – Sports
1652 – Speed HD – Sports
1680 – Outdoor Channel HD – Sports
1737 – FSN Detroit HD – Sports
1794 – Hallmark Movie Channel HD – Movies
1802 – HBO HD – Premium
1803 – HBO HD - West – Premium
1804 – HBO2 HD – General
1806 – HBO Family HD – General
1807 – HBO Family HD - West – Premium
1808 – HBO Signature HD – Premium
1809 – HBO Signature HD - West – Premium
1810 – HBO Comedy HD – General
1811 – HBO Comedy HD - West – Premium
1812 – HBO Zone HD – Premium
1813 – HBO Zone HD - West – Premium
1814 – HBO Latino HD – Premium
1815 – HBO Latino HD - West – Premium
1832 – Cinemax HD – Premium
1833 – Cinemax HD - West – Premium
1834 – MoreMax HD – Premium
1835 – MoreMAX HD - West – Premium
1836 – ActionMax HD – Premium
1837 – ActionMAX HD - West – Premium
1838 – ThrillerMax HD – Premium
1839 – ThrillerMAX HD - West – Premium
1840 – 5StarMax HD – Premium
1842 – WMAX HD – Premium
1844 – OuterMax HD – Premium
1846 – ATMax HD – Premium
1852 – Showtime HD – Premium
1853 – Showtime HD - West – Premium
1854 – Showtime Too HD – Premium
1856 – Showtime Showcase HD – Premium
1858 – Showtime Extreme HD – Premium
1882 – The Movie Channel HD – Premium
1884 – TMC Xtra HD – Premium
1902 – Starz HD – Premium
1903 – Starz HD - West – Premium
1904 – Starz Edge HD – Premium
1910 – Starz Comedy HD – Premium
1912 – Starz Kids & Family HD – Premium
1932 – Encore HD – Premium

Westphalia Broadband: Channel Number – Programming

301 – ESPN HD
302 – ESPN2 HD
304 – NFL Network HD
306 – WLNS HD - CBS
307 – WXMI HD - FOX
308 – WOOD HD - NBC
309 – HD Net
310 – HD Net Movies
311 – Discovery HD Theater
312 – TNT HD
313 – WZZM HD - ABC

*Other stations may tune in depending on your location/antenna setup, however, these are the channels designated to provide content for the Lansing/Jackson DMA.
**Comcast has multiple cable networks/channel line ups in the Lansing area. Some parts of East Lansing do not have all the HD channels that are available to the rest of Lansing and Michigan State University has no HD availability on campus.
***Currently D* doesn’t carry any Lansing DMA channels in HD. Some D* STB’s have OTA tuners enabled that allow you to get local HDTV with an antenna.

If any information here is incorrect or needs updating, please send me a PM or email me at jefbal99@gmail.com
post #2 of 2733
mmmm new thread (dont know why, but ok).

Hey so what is going to go on with AT&T entering the market? Will Comcast go bye bye?
post #3 of 2733
(thanks for the start of the new thread)

If you happen to use the Comcast HD STB (Motorola DCT 6142) here are a couple of suggestions. I've noticed that these units tend to run, well, warm, if not hot.

1. The intake fan for the cooling is on the bottom of the unit. There is not a lot of clearance. Suggest raising the unit say 3/4", two pieces of 2x1 cut to front-to-back size and placed under the feet will raise it and allow air to come in much easier.

2. Likewise, you won't want anything on top of the unit either.

3. When the power is on, the hard drive is on. Be sure to turn the unit off except when you want to be viewing programs. If you have set an event for record, it will wake up to record it.
post #4 of 2733
Nice summary, jefbal99.

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Originally Posted by spotdog14 View Post

mmmm new thread (dont know why, but ok).

We're trying to get an HD summary in the first post of all local threads that is periodically updated. If we can't get the OP to do it, we need to have a volunteer start a new thread. Newbies can be directed to the first post, and hopefully 90% of the common questions can be answered. Since the first post and last post are always only 1-click away, not utilizing the first post is a big waste of functionality and forces members to the end of (potentially) very long threads.
post #5 of 2733
Titan TV is reporting that WZPX's 43-3 is changing from "Ion W" to "ION Life" on Feb 19.
post #6 of 2733
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spotdog14 View Post

mmmm new thread (dont know why, but ok).

Hey so what is going to go on with AT&T entering the market? Will Comcast go bye bye?

I don't think Comcast will ever go buh bye, however, I will be very happy to see some other choices in the markets.

I actually voted "no" on the proposal back in November. It had no mention of net neutrality, nor did it require franchise to provide video services to all households in an area.

Companies like at&t can just run lines into the "wealthy" areas and ignore everyone else. I previously lived on the south side of lansing. Wasn't the best neighborhood, but the rent was really cheap. I can guarentee that at&t would never run FOIS lines in that area and it would really piss me off that if I moved a miles or so in any direction, it would prolly be there.

Also, with statewide franchises rather than local, many city governments will now have to foot the bill for their public broadcast channel/equipment.

Another provider may be "Westphalia Telephone/Broadband" in DeWitt. The company was running lines last Summer and my Pop talked to one of the techs, he said that it was essentially for a "Triple Play" (voice/data/video) if the Proposal was passed in Nov '06. I can't find anything online except State filings for the company, not sure really what they offer. Anybody have info on them?

Edit in: Found this Press Release from the company they are getting hardware from

Edit in2: Found a phone number for Westphalia Telephone Co. and called them, then are called Westphalia Broadband now and are providing "triple play" services to DeWitt, St. Johns, and Westphalia. They can be found online at www.4wbi.net. There website includes a pdf file for cable TV channels. Currently they do not offer any HDTV services.

Edit in3: Westphalia Broadband is working on HD offerings, however, it won't be until late Q3 '07 or Q4 '07. Also, their secretary person thought that the Feb '09 Analog shutoff meant that everything would be in HD, but said it was occurring in Feb '08. I politely corrected her...
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Does anyone know the QAM channel for FOX on Comcast cable in EL?
post #8 of 2733
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 1855 View Post

Does anyone know the QAM channel for FOX on Comcast cable in EL?

If you are on the EL Network and not Lansing, Comcast doesn't offer WSYM, due to bandwidth issues. You'll need an OTA antenna to get FOX programming in HD
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

If you are on the EL Network and not Lansing, Comcast doesn't offer WSYM, due to bandwidth issues. You'll need an OTA antenna to get FOX programming in HD

Thanks- I was hoping to put the Antenna and additional tuner on another TV.
post #10 of 2733
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Originally Posted by 1855 View Post

Thanks- I was hoping to put the Antenna and additional tuner on another TV.

Sorry, from what I've been told and heard, the EL network is the old TCI network and is still in the 550Mhz range, but I can't confirm that.
post #11 of 2733
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Anybody else getting no audio from WILX-HD during Leno? I reported it to the newsroom, and as usual, they just dropped into SD. There was still no audio track coming through, so I emailed Gary King.
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I also had no sound for Leno last night, then it switched to SD for Conan, still no sound. Analog WILX was fine. I thought it was a Comcast problem, though, as WLNS-HD and WLAJ-HD kept losing signal as well.

This morning all I'm getting from WILX-HD is a static green pattern.
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I know this was asked about on the old thread, so I decided to list the QAM channels I get from Comcast if you want to add them to the listing above. This is on the East Lansing network, so Lansing might be different.

2-3 The Golf Channel (SD)
12-3 WLAJ-HD - ABC Affiliate
13-3 WLNS-DT - CBS Affiliate
17-x Comcast iN DEMAND stations
18-x (Occasionally something appears here, not sure what station it is)
25-2 WILX-HD - NBC Affiliate
25-3 WKAR-HD - PBS Affiliate
25-14 WILX-WX - Local Weather (SD)
26-1 Disney Channel (SD)
26-2 Nickelodeon (SD)
26-4 Food Network (SD)
26-5 CNN (SD)
26-6 C-SPAN (SD)
26-7 C-SPAN2 (SD)
26-9 SOAPnet (SD)
26-10 diy (SD)
26-11 C-SPAN3 (SD)
26-12 The Weather Channel (SD)
68-x Digital music stations
69-9 The History Channel (SD)
69-10 Bravo (SD)
69-11 HGTV (SD)
74-4 G4 (SD)
76-11 CMT (SD)
post #14 of 2733
Thread Starter 
added the HD and local weather to the list. If anybody can get WSYM's QAM channel number, then I'll update it.
post #15 of 2733
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by zemkedan View Post

I also had no sound for Leno last night, then it switched to SD for Conan, still no sound. Analog WILX was fine. I thought it was a Comcast problem, though, as WLNS-HD and WLAJ-HD kept losing signal as well.

This morning all I'm getting from WILX-HD is a static green pattern.

WLAJ and WLNS were fine last night. It stayed with no audio into Conan, then I went to bed. All stations seem to be fine this morning, but its all SD content.
post #16 of 2733
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It was nice to see WILX get NHL on NBC HD working this weekend. I was bouncing between Golf, Pre-Race and the NHL and the PQ was great, audio was great. Very nice presentation. Hopefully it stays that way through the season and playoffs
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

It was nice to see WILX get NHL on NBC HD working this weekend. I was bouncing between Golf, Pre-Race and the NHL and the PQ was great, audio was great. Very nice presentation. Hopefully it stays that way through the season and playoffs

UHD replayed the game in a late night slot. I was watching the Daytona 500 live. I thought Fox did a good job overall. Good to see HD on all the in-car cameras.
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You a D* sub? Wondering where you get UHD from.
post #19 of 2733
What is up with Comcast's re-broadcast problems with WILX last night? I was like i was watching OTA with a bad antenna.

When i switched over to OTA it was fine, so it had to be something with Comcast, anyone else notice this?
post #20 of 2733
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

You a D* sub? Wondering where you get UHD from.

Yep. Looking forward to those two new birds later this year. 100+ HD national channels probably by football season. plus HD locals and Fox Sports Detroit HD whenever available.
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Yep. Looking forward to those two new birds later this year. 100+ HD national channels probably by football season. plus HD locals and Fox Sports Detroit HD whenever available.

Hopefully they get both birds up this year. If the 2nd one doesn't go up then no HD LiL or FSN HD because all the spotbeams are on the 2nd bird.

It'll depend on what happens with Sea Launch.

On to some Comcast News...

I talked with a Comcast "Senior Rep" last week because of some issues I had with customer service. He told me that Comcast is in the process of upgrading the pipeline that comes into Lansing. He was very vague about the specifics, however, he said that once that is complete, we should get UHD, A&E HD, NG HD. He would not provide a timeframe for this to occur.

He also mentioned that both Lansing and Grand Rapids were not going to get FSNHD or VSGLF for a bit longer, but because of the customer outcry when the upgrade didn't occur, they made it happen. Apparently, no one at Comcast had a clue that the STB message went out and it was in error. I always take anything from Comcast with a grain of salt, I think it was a case of the left hand not knowing what the right was doing. With all the people that work for Comcast in the Lansing and Grand Rapids markets, I bet at least one person saw the message on their STB and said something. But thats just my opinion

I also asked about the Comcast/Tivo software update and he had no clue. When I mentioned Tivo he went into a sales pitch for the Comcast DVR. I explained that I was a DVR subscriber, however, I was wondering about the Tivo software update that was announced at CES. He had no clue, so I assume its gonna be awhile before we see that.

Overall, I'm very happy with my current service from Comcast and what is coming down the road. I'd really like to see an HD Special Events Channel that shows season long sports packages in HD and the HDNet's. I know that the HDNet's won't happen, EVER, but the Special Events Channels are poping up on the East Coast, so hopefully in time for next seasons NHL Center Ice.
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Hopefully they get both birds up this year. If the 2nd one doesn't go up then no HD LiL or FSN HD because all the spotbeams are on the 2nd bird.

It'll depend on what happens with Sea Launch.

On to some Comcast News...

I talked with a Comcast "Senior Rep" last week because of some issues I had with customer service. He told me that Comcast is in the process of upgrading the pipeline that comes into Lansing. He was very vague about the specifics, however, he said that once that is complete, we should get UHD, A&E HD, NG HD. He would not provide a timeframe for this to occur.

He also mentioned that both Lansing and Grand Rapids were not going to get FSNHD or VSGLF for a bit longer, but because of the customer outcry when the upgrade didn't occur, they made it happen. Apparently, no one at Comcast had a clue that the STB message went out and it was in error. I always take anything from Comcast with a grain of salt, I think it was a case of the left hand not knowing what the right was doing. With all the people that work for Comcast in the Lansing and Grand Rapids markets, I bet at least one person saw the message on their STB and said something. But thats just my opinion

I also asked about the Comcast/Tivo software update and he had no clue. When I mentioned Tivo he went into a sales pitch for the Comcast DVR. I explained that I was a DVR subscriber, however, I was wondering about the Tivo software update that was announced at CES. He had no clue, so I assume its gonna be awhile before we see that.

Overall, I'm very happy with my current service from Comcast and what is coming down the road. I'd really like to see an HD Special Events Channel that shows season long sports packages in HD and the HDNet's. I know that the HDNet's won't happen, EVER, but the Special Events Channels are poping up on the East Coast, so hopefully in time for next seasons NHL Center Ice.


but no news on the East Lansing network? After all that is the only one that really matters! lol....
post #23 of 2733
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Originally Posted by spotdog14 View Post

but no news on the East Lansing network? After all that is the only one that really matters! lol....

Sorry, forgot to ask. Start emailing Comcast and just continually ask to have a Senior Rep call you. It'll take a bit, but you might be able to get some answers from them.
post #24 of 2733
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

I missed something in your post...

You got a 6416?

I may need to pay a visit to the Comcast office, I'd love the extra 40gb of space on the DVR for more HDTV. I'm still stuck with the 6412 III.

Is that the Dual Tuner model or the single tuner?

(copied this over from the other thread)

Yes, it's a 6416 III. HDD is 160Gb, dual tuner. It's up and running without trouble now. They have a pile of them. I'm pretty happy with it as SD quality is much improved from the old box (forget the model #, 6200? ... just a HD tuner, no DVR) in addition to the box's other merits.

I need to visit Newegg for a HDMI to DVI adapter. My set has only DVI in (with HDCP) and I'm certainly not paying $35 at a local store for a $6 part.
post #25 of 2733
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Originally Posted by No.6 View Post

(copied this over from the other thread)

Yes, it's a 6416 III. HDD is 160Gb, dual tuner. It's up and running without trouble now. They have a pile of them. I'm pretty happy with it as SD quality is much improved from the old box (forget the model #, 6200? ... just a HD tuner, no DVR) in addition to the box's other merits.

I need to visit Newegg for a HDMI to DVI adapter. My set has only DVI in (with HDCP) and I'm certainly not paying $35 at a local store for a $6 part.

Well, I guess them I'm gonna have to pay the Comcast office over on Miller Rd a visit. I'm always running out of space on the DVR and would like the extra 40 GB of HD space.

Can you check and see what SW/FW the 6416 is running?
post #26 of 2733
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Hopefully they get both birds up this year. If the 2nd one doesn't go up then no HD LiL or FSN HD because all the spotbeams are on the 2nd bird.

It'll depend on what happens with Sea Launch.

On to some Comcast News...

I talked with a Comcast "Senior Rep" last week because of some issues I had with customer service. He told me that Comcast is in the process of upgrading the pipeline that comes into Lansing. He was very vague about the specifics, however, he said that once that is complete, we should get UHD, A&E HD, NG HD. He would not provide a timeframe for this to occur.

He also mentioned that both Lansing and Grand Rapids were not going to get FSNHD or VSGLF for a bit longer, but because of the customer outcry when the upgrade didn't occur, they made it happen. Apparently, no one at Comcast had a clue that the STB message went out and it was in error. I always take anything from Comcast with a grain of salt, I think it was a case of the left hand not knowing what the right was doing. With all the people that work for Comcast in the Lansing and Grand Rapids markets, I bet at least one person saw the message on their STB and said something. But thats just my opinion

I also asked about the Comcast/Tivo software update and he had no clue. When I mentioned Tivo he went into a sales pitch for the Comcast DVR. I explained that I was a DVR subscriber, however, I was wondering about the Tivo software update that was announced at CES. He had no clue, so I assume its gonna be awhile before we see that.

Overall, I'm very happy with my current service from Comcast and what is coming down the road. I'd really like to see an HD Special Events Channel that shows season long sports packages in HD and the HDNet's. I know that the HDNet's won't happen, EVER, but the Special Events Channels are poping up on the East Coast, so hopefully in time for next seasons NHL Center Ice.

I don't think that this is exactly true. For one thing FSD will go on a CONUS beam, and this will probably be on D10. As far as HD LiL for Lansing goes, I'm not really sure, but there is currently plenty of capacity on the Spaceway Birds in orbit now. In fact the Flint market was supposed to go live in the 4th Q of 2006 on one of the Spaceways. This has since been delayed until at least the 3rd Q of this year. I really don't know the reason, but they may want to put it on one of the new sats.
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Originally Posted by No.6 View Post

(copied this over from the other thread)

Yes, it's a 6416 III. HDD is 160Gb, dual tuner. It's up and running without trouble now. They have a pile of them. I'm pretty happy with it as SD quality is much improved from the old box (forget the model #, 6200? ... just a HD tuner, no DVR) in addition to the box's other merits.

I need to visit Newegg for a HDMI to DVI adapter. My set has only DVI in (with HDCP) and I'm certainly not paying $35 at a local store for a $6 part.

No 6, check this link, good quality cables for very low prices. I got a DVI to HDMI cable for $7.95 including shipping total.

http://www.monoprice.com/home/?CartID=&style=
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Hello everyone,

I am new to the HDTV community and have several questions. I would appreciate any responses. I just puchased a new HDTV with built in HDTV tuner and am locked into a satellite contract until December with D* (I think I did that right), so I am going to live with no HD programming for awhile. My questions are:

-Can I use my old rooftop directional antenna which has been unhooked for years to receive OTA HDTV?

-If not, which antenna would people suggest I try? Portland is a long way out and to add to the challenge, I live in a one-story home , surrounded by mature trees, down by the river (low) and haven't had very good success getting regular aerial tv coverage over the years with rabbit ears, etc.

Thanks in advance.
post #29 of 2733
Spartan95,

Try your outside antenna, you should be able to get some stations. I would think where you are you may get most of the Grand Rapids stations, and some of the Lansing stations. You can go to this web site, enter your address and see how far away and in what directions all the stations are from your location.

http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx


Most of the digital stations around here are on the UHF band, so rabbit ear antennas don't help. WOTV-DT in G.R. is on channel 7 VHF, and WWMT-DT in Kazoo is on VHF channel 2, but all the others are on UHF. In 2009 WILX-DT plans on going back down to channel 10, but they are on channel 57 right now. Just point your outside antenna in the directions that the "antennaweb" site comes up with for you and do a channel scan and see what your TV can find. Good Luck.

Mark
post #30 of 2733
Thread Starter 
I agree with wb8tgy, use the outdoor antenna and it will help and the GR channels should come in better as the towers are closer to ya.

You are going to have to play around with where your antenna is pointing to get the best signal and sometimes you will need to move it for different channels.

Some have reported better signals when adding preamps, others have reported no success or worse. Its a crap shoot, best advice is to hook it up and do a scan.

If you plan on staying with D*, then call them and ask about the 5lnb dish and H20/HR20 receivers. I believe that you fall into the GR DMA so you should be able to get their locals in HD on a spot beam.

I've heard many stories of people bitching enough, they get their hardware upgrades for free.
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