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post #301 of 2733
Nice that the new comcast HD channels are up!

So what is the latest status of Directv HD channels for Lansing, I'd like to switch from Comcast at some point, but was waiting for HD locals and especially FSN HD!
(can't live without that)

Can someone break it down for me?
post #302 of 2733
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Originally Posted by ILLRock View Post

Nice that the new comcast HD channels are up!

So what is the latest status of Directv HD channels for Lansing, I'd like to switch from Comcast at some point, but was waiting for HD locals and especially FSN HD!
(can't live without that)

Can someone break it down for me?

FSN Detroit HD should go live on a CONUS beam when D10 goes live, as for the HD LiLs, that won't be until D11 is up and running.
post #303 of 2733
They already show most FSN-Detroit broadcasts in HD on Ch 95 when the Detroit teams are at home. Pretty sure thats how Comcast does it too.

Its weird about the Lansing locals taking so long, seeing how Detroit and Grand Rapids are already up.

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Originally Posted by ILLRock View Post

Nice that the new comcast HD channels are up!

So what is the latest status of Directv HD channels for Lansing, I'd like to switch from Comcast at some point, but was waiting for HD locals and especially FSN HD!
(can't live without that)

Can someone break it down for me?
post #304 of 2733
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Originally Posted by DanMacMan View Post


Its weird about the Lansing locals taking so long, seeing how Detroit and Grand Rapids are already up.

Market size. Detroit= 11, Grand Rapids = 39, Lansing = 110. (2005/06 rankings http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=45455 )

I've been told that DirecTV does not include any public television stations in any of their HD market local-into-local services.
post #305 of 2733
I left my air-conditioned hovel for several hours and when I returned my D* H20 receiver looked different. For one thing the lettering and menus look a little different, like maybe an update loarded while I was laboring in this ungodly heat. Then I flipped over to Fox Sports Detroit for the Tiger game and the pregame show was stretched. I have my H20 set for native resolution, so what that indicates is that FSD is stretching a 4:3 SD signal out to 16:9 SD. Did I spend too much time out in the heat, is my receiver fubar, or is FSD really stretching its picture? All the other SD channels I've checked are properly showing in 4:3.

It also looks like the H20 really wants four digits now instead of the standard three, such as if an update occurred and there will be a major channel shuffle.
post #306 of 2733
Has anybody seen if the Big Ten Network will be offering a subscription to its regional football broadcasts?
post #307 of 2733
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Originally Posted by cornell_lingus View Post

Has anybody seen if the Big Ten Network will be offering a subscription to its regional football broadcasts?

Not that I know of, just have to get your provider to carry the big ten network
post #308 of 2733
I'm thinking of getting a TiVo HD. My understanding is that Comcast is all over the map on billing for and supporting Cablecards.

Anyone have experience getting a Cablecard in East Lansing?
post #309 of 2733
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Originally Posted by cornell_lingus View Post

Has anybody seen if the Big Ten Network will be offering a subscription to its regional football broadcasts?

BTN will be on DirecTV.

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http://www.jg-tc.com/articles/2007/0...e561539869.txt

So far, despite agreements with DirecTV, AT&T and more than 70 smaller cable providers, the conference is at a stalemate with all major operators including Comcast, which has 5.7 million subscribers within Big Ten states.

Silverman said the league remains steadfast on the subject of placement.

Every deal we've done so far is expanded basic, he said. We're looking to have that continue in all our deals. They talk about a sports tier. We are not going on a sports tier in the eight-state region. It's wrong.

....

For now, the Big Ten seems to have backed off telling fans to switch to providers carrying the network. But in the days to come, that tactic will come into play if Comcast and the Big Ten remain at odds.

Somehow, the Big Ten will probably get its placement in expanded basic. Maybe not at the price of $1.10 per subscriber that it's asking. Maybe not close to that price.

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http://collegefootball.rivals.com/co...asp?CID=696391

At this point, the Big Ten Network - which will air four Big Ten football games on Sept. 1 - is only available through DirecTV. Silverman estimated about 20 percent of consumers in the Big Ten area subscribe to the satellite television service.

Silverman and major cable operators Comcast, Cox and Time-Warner disagree how the Big Ten Network should be distributed. He maintains it should be offered on expanded basic cable within the eight states that are home to Big Ten teams - Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.


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post #310 of 2733
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Not that I know of, just have to get your provider to carry the big ten network

Thanks to you and Gary for the responses. I have D*, so I'm covered there. My question pertained to the two or three extra games they should have every week which will be regionally syndicated like they were in previous years as ESPN Plus games. ABC will get one game in the afternoon, ESPN gets to pick one or two for national/regional broadcast, and the rest get syndicated by BTN. One game will be featured on BTN in prime time several weeks, so what about the rest of the games? Will we be able to subscribe to a package? They used to be in ESPN GamePlan, but won't anymore. The only Big Ten football games that will be on GamePlan will be the ones chosen by ESPN for national/regional broadcast, not the syndicated game broadcasts. Basketball fans will have a similar quandary.
post #311 of 2733
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Originally Posted by cornell_lingus View Post

Thanks to you and Gary for the responses. I have D*, so I'm covered there. My question pertained to the two or three extra games they should have every week which will be regionally syndicated like they were in previous years as ESPN Plus games. ABC will get one game in the afternoon, ESPN gets to pick one or two for national/regional broadcast, and the rest get syndicated by BTN. One game will be featured on BTN in prime time several weeks, so what about the rest of the games? Will we be able to subscribe to a package? They used to be in ESPN GamePlan, but won't anymore. The only Big Ten football games that will be on GamePlan will be the ones chosen by ESPN for national/regional broadcast, not the syndicated game broadcasts. Basketball fans will have a similar quandary.

From BTN FAQ

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Q: In the past, I was able watch Big Ten games produced by ESPN Regional via pay-per-view on ESPN GamePlan or ESPN Full Court. Will Big Ten Network-produced football and men's basketball games be available on ESPN GamePlan or ESPN Full Court?

A: Big Ten Network games will not be part of the GamePlan or Full Court packages, but the BTN is making all of the games it produces available to cable and satellite operators as part of their agreements to carry the Big Ten Network. Whenever the Big Ten Network is producing more than one game at a time, cable and satellite providers that have agreed to carry the Big Ten Network will be offered the chance to carry the additional games via "overflow" channels. For example, let's assume that at noon ET one Saturday the Big Ten Network is producing two games (Penn State vs. Illinois and Michigan vs. Northwestern). If the Penn State-Illinois game is airing on the Big Ten Network, your cable or satellite system will be given the rights to carry the Michigan-Northwestern game on an "overflow" channel. Overall, the Big Ten Network will be producing significantly more football and men's basketball games than have aired regionally in recent years, and these games will be made available to all cable and satellite systems as part of their contracts to carry the Big Ten Network.
post #312 of 2733
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So far NFL HD has been added in DC/Balt, Boston, and Hartford. Hartford has a similar channel lineup to the Michigan Comcast systems, so I'm guessing whenever the full time NFL Network shows up it will be on channel 214.

I can't imagine that Detroit wouldn't get the channel added being that they are an NFL town, then as usual, Lansing/GR will see it a few weeks later.

I was hoping it might pop on before the Hall of Fame game on Sunday night, but hopefully MojoHD will get preempted as it did last year. Only problem was that when the game ran over the time slot, Mojo programming came back on at 11pm.
post #313 of 2733
They must have heard I was about to sic Jeff on them to carry the extra games

DIRECTV To Carry Network On Channel 220
Satellite provider commits to carrying overflow games

DIRECTV has designated its Channel 220 as the location of the Big Ten Network. The satellite provider has also committed to carrying the network's overflow games for the previously announced football schedule.
post #314 of 2733
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Originally Posted by cornell_lingus View Post

They must have heard I was about to sic Jeff on them to carry the extra games

DIRECTV To Carry Network On Channel 220
Satellite provider commits to carrying overflow games

DIRECTV has designated its Channel 220 as the location of the Big Ten Network. The satellite provider has also committed to carrying the network's overflow games for the previously announced football schedule.

Can only hope for Comcast to come through now on BTN...
post #315 of 2733
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I caught a rerun of Law and Order: CI on channel 10 last night and saw that WILX is inserting HD graphics into the feed. Whenever it came back from commercial, the WILX logo was in the lower left corner, then disappered and the national NBC HD logo came up.

Hopefully this means that all crawls and bugs will be in HD now and we won't have to deal with programming dropping into 4x3.

Props to WILX
post #316 of 2733
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Comcast dropped the ball tonight with the NFL Network HD. Mojo was not preempted for the coverage of the Hall of Fame game.

I actually emailed Comcast this morning regarding their hypocrisy of their own sports networks versus (intentional pun) other sports networks. Its pathetic how they make claims about cost and consumer bills, but they just keep jacking up the prices. I never saw my bill go down when Comcast moved the NFL Network to the S&E tier, but Comcast claims that they will have to raise everyone's bill to add the Big Ten Network. Then they require that their RSNs, The Golf Channel, Versus, etc be on extended basic packages.

If Comcast can't get keep pace with the other video providers, then they will start losing subs let and right.
post #317 of 2733
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

I caught a rerun of Law and Order: CI on channel 10 last night and saw that WILX is inserting HD graphics into the feed. Whenever it came back from commercial, the WILX logo was in the lower left corner, then disappered and the national NBC HD logo came up.

Hopefully this means that all crawls and bugs will be in HD now and we won't have to deal with programming dropping into 4x3.

Props to WILX

Got a reply from Gary, the system installed is very limited for the time being, crawls and weather bugs will still be in SD, but its a step in the right direction.
post #318 of 2733
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Got a reply from Gary, the system installed is very limited for the time being, crawls and weather bugs will still be in SD, but its a step in the right direction.

Crawling before walking, my boy...
post #319 of 2733
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Comcast dropped the ball tonight with the NFL Network HD. Mojo was not preempted for the coverage of the Hall of Fame game.

I actually emailed Comcast this morning regarding their hypocrisy of their own sports networks versus (intentional pun) other sports networks. Its pathetic how they make claims about cost and consumer bills, but they just keep jacking up the prices. I never saw my bill go down when Comcast moved the NFL Network to the S&E tier, but Comcast claims that they will have to raise everyone's bill to add the Big Ten Network. Then they require that their RSNs, The Golf Channel, Versus, etc be on extended basic packages.

If Comcast can't get keep pace with the other video providers, then they will start losing subs let and right.

You know darned well they are feeling the heat. Just the fact they are assaulting the airwaves with the b!tch with the big fake teeth and that irritating Zack is enough to tell you how worried they are. They have made huge media buys the last two years. You know that primary sponsorship of Tiger games couldn't have been cheap, too. For all the complaints about the satellite networks I hear a bunch of compliments for them as well. I have yet to meet a satisfied Comcast customer.

That hooey about the dishes being out with bad weather hasn't worked out for them either. Sure you can lose a satellite signal for a while in a big storm, but if your dish is aimed properly your signal will be back soon enough. I lose signal maybe four or five times a year and generally only for a few minutes (10 or less) when it does happen. Back when that nice ice storm blew through Michigan this past winter there were huge blocks of Comcast customers in the Jackson area that were out as long as a week. There's no advertising that can overcome that.
post #320 of 2733
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Originally Posted by cornell_lingus View Post

You know darned well they are feeling the heat. Just the fact they are assaulting the airwaves with the b!tch with the big fake teeth and that irritating Zack is enough to tell you how worried they are. They have made huge media buys the last two years. You know that primary sponsorship of Tiger games couldn't have been cheap, too. For all the complaints about the satellite networks I hear a bunch of compliments for them as well. I have yet to meet a satisfied Comcast customer.

That hooey about the dishes being out with bad weather hasn't worked out for them either. Sure you can lose a satellite signal for a while in a big storm, but if your dish is aimed properly your signal will be back soon enough. I lose signal maybe four or five times a year and generally only for a few minutes (10 or less) when it does happen. Back when that nice ice storm blew through Michigan this past winter there were huge blocks of Comcast customers in the Jackson area that were out as long as a week. There's no advertising that can overcome that.

I agree 100%, Comcast is gonna feel it in the next few months if they don't get their head on straight and realize what the hell is going on.
post #321 of 2733
Has anyone else been experiencing breakups of the latest new Comcast HD channels (Food Network and HGTV)? We're seeing a lot of pixelation especially during "prime" time.
post #322 of 2733
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Originally Posted by TTRider View Post

Has anyone else been experiencing breakups of the latest new Comcast HD channels (Food Network and HGTV)? We're seeing a lot of pixelation especially during "prime" time.

I haven't watched them in the last two days, but all previous viewing was rock solid. I'll take a peek tonight and see what is happening.
post #323 of 2733
We are getting severe breakups on 197 (Food) and 198 (HGTV) right now. If you monitoring the site, let me know if you are as well. Thanks.
post #324 of 2733
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Originally Posted by TTRider View Post

We are getting severe breakups on 197 (Food) and 198 (HGTV) right now. If you monitoring the site, let me know if you are as well. Thanks.

Yup I see them too. I'll drop an email to Comcast.
post #325 of 2733
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

I agree 100%, Comcast is gonna feel it in the next few months if they don't get their head on straight and realize what the hell is going on.


And Comcast also get their signals from 'the dish'.
post #326 of 2733
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Originally Posted by TTRider View Post

We are getting severe breakups on 197 (Food) and 198 (HGTV) right now. If you monitoring the site, let me know if you are as well. Thanks.

Just because they're broadcasting in HD resolution doesn't mean they're giving us HD bit-rates.. I bet they're sharing a 20mbit/sec channel at best. 10Mbit/sec will not look very good when things start moving.

This is like the DVD crap.. there's basically no way of telling if you have a good high bit rate encoding or a garbage low bit rate single layer disc... until you buy it and see how good or bad it looks. This is one of my personal pet peeves.. all DVDs are NOT created equally! At least when CD's came out they gave you the AAD DAD ADD or DDD tags to tell you how they were processed.
post #327 of 2733
Anyone Else notice that FSN-HD is having issues with image quality lately.. I get al lot of brightness variation.. within a few seconds will go from looking clean to seeing blocks of distorted color in previously clean dark areas. Their quality(resolution) overall does not seem to be that much better than good SD. Wondering if they're splitting a channel 3 ways now with FoodHD and HGTV-HD.

I doubt Comcast dedicates a channel to FSN-HD since it so rarely has programming. Anyone know what the native resolution is for FSN-HD?
post #328 of 2733
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Originally Posted by VIVOtheFURY View Post

Just because they're broadcasting in HD resolution doesn't mean they're giving us HD bit-rates.. I bet they're sharing a 20mbit/sec channel at best. 10Mbit/sec will not look very good when things start moving.

This is like the DVD crap.. there's basically no way of telling if you have a good high bit rate encoding or a garbage low bit rate single layer disc... until you buy it and see how good or bad it looks. This is one of my personal pet peeves.. all DVDs are NOT created equally! At least when CD's came out they gave you the AAD DAD ADD or DDD tags to tell you how they were processed.

This was from a Comcast senior analyst that was assigned to me in February when we had the FSNHD/VSGLF debacle, but the quote was that Comcast does not use rate shaping or any other means to modify the signal. They pass along what they get from individual network.

Seeing as Food HD and HGTV HD are fine all day, there is some sort of a **** up in Comcast's network.

at 19.3mbs, Comcast can fit two HD signals in a 6Mhz QAM channel. I guessing that most HD networks don't use the full 19.3mbs, so you prolly have two HDs and a few sds in a QAM channel.

The Fox Network caps out at around 15mbs using the splicer system, and I've never seen a major ongoing issue from them.
post #329 of 2733
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Originally Posted by TTRider View Post

We are getting severe breakups on 197 (Food) and 198 (HGTV) right now. If you monitoring the site, let me know if you are as well. Thanks.

I received a reply from Comcast

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Originally Posted by Comcast Support View Post

Thank you for taking the time to email us. It is only through
communications such as yours that we can be responsive to your needs.

We are aware of the problems you are experiencing with your cable
service and do apologize for the inconvenience. At this time, we have
technicians working on the problem and hope to have it resolved as
quickly as possible.

Again jefbal99, I apologize for the loss of service and thank you for
your patience.

If you have any questions regarding the above information or if I can be
of assistance to you in the future, please feel free to contact me or
call 1-888-COMCAST.

Thank you for choosing Comcast.

Sincerely,

Ursula
Comcast Customer Care Specialist
post #330 of 2733
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NFL Network HD added on channel 181, Sports and Entertainment tier needed.

Comcast now has 23 HDs available
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