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post #331 of 2698
8/10/07 at 5:03pm
Anyone else still having issues with FSN-HD? I am...
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post #332 of 2698
8/10/07 at 5:10pm
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Anyone else still having issues with FSN-HD? I am...

Yeah, its still jittery
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post #333 of 2698
8/13/07 at 9:06am
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So I was sitting here pondering the purchase of an HD Tivo.

For $300 I get a DVR and own it, then for another $300 upfront, I get the service for 3 years ($8.30/month) and that is less than I'm paying Comcast for the DVR service and additional STB rental. Plus I can upgrade the Hard drive and the tivo interface is much more user friendly/intelligent than the Moto's.

I contacted Comcast to find out about M-cards (multi-stream cable cards) and the tech had no idea what I was refering to. I explained what an M-card was and he said that I would have to get two cable cards.

Then I tried to pull up my bill on Comcast's website. I wanted to compare all the costs and see if it was really going to be worth the cash up front for the long term savings and as usual, the comcast site sucks. I can only get a summary of the last bill i paid. No links for previous months bills, no further information, just a 4 line summary that doesn't tell me anything. Once again contacted comcast support and got sick of waiting for a tech so after 35 mins and still 18 people in line in front of me, i closed the window. I guess I'll just have to grab my bill at home and see what additional costs will go away.

I'd love to give less money to Comcast. Their rates hikes over the years have not been justified in what services have been added.
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post #334 of 2698
8/13/07 at 7:29pm
I receive channel 6 and 53 hd via ota antenna. I am receiving wrong program info or non at all.
For example it showed csi when another program is on or none at all

Does anyone else also have the same problem or maybe its my sony hd set?



John
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post #335 of 2698
8/14/07 at 6:00am
Liteguy2004,

I don't think WLAJ-DT ever puts their program information out, at least the receiver we use the most never displays real program information for 53-1 or 53-2. I think your problem with WLNS-DT is because their clock is messed up and off an hour (or your TV's tuner is because the station your getting your clock information from is off). It seems like once a month or so I have to change (in the setup menu) our receiver's station that it goes to get the time.

Mark
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post #336 of 2698
8/14/07 at 4:02pm
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Updated E* listing for HDs that go live tomorrow and FSN Detroit HD
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post #337 of 2698
8/14/07 at 4:05pm
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If you want to talk to WLAJ engineering, then you need to look up contact info for WWMT in K'Zoo. They handle all Master Control for WLAJ.
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post #338 of 2698
8/15/07 at 1:04pm
Hi,

I'm going to be moving back into the Lansing area and am trying to find out the best HD provider to go with. I'm really leaning towards E*, due to low prices and the most HD programming, but I'm skeptical about the local stations in HD. I called a E* representative and I was told immediately that my area had local stations in HD, even though I wasn't asked my zip code. So I asked again, and I was told something like "If the local stations are broadcast in HD in your area, the dish will pick them up". So, does anyone have E* or D* and can verify that this is true or false? I'm thinking I'd need to buy (get them to give me for free) and OTA Antenna, and would that work with a tunerless HDTV? Any help is appreciated.

Justin
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post #339 of 2698
8/15/07 at 2:14pm
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Hi,
So, does anyone have E* or D* and can verify that this is true or false?

Justin

Neither Dish Network or DirecTV are carrying any local-into-local signals in the Lansing market in High Definition.
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post #340 of 2698
8/15/07 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by JusteBelmont86 View Post

Hi,

I'm going to be moving back into the Lansing area and am trying to find out the best HD provider to go with. I'm really leaning towards E*, due to low prices and the most HD programming, but I'm skeptical about the local stations in HD. I called a E* representative and I was told immediately that my area had local stations in HD, even though I wasn't asked my zip code. So I asked again, and I was told something like "If the local stations are broadcast in HD in your area, the dish will pick them up". So, does anyone have E* or D* and can verify that this is true or false? I'm thinking I'd need to buy (get them to give me for free) and OTA Antenna, and would that work with a tunerless HDTV? Any help is appreciated.

Justin

Both STBs from D* and E* have OTA tuners that will get your locals. See the first post in this thread and you'll have all the info you need
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post #341 of 2698
8/15/07 at 3:10pm
Just wanted to say thanks garybliev and jefbal99 for the heads-up. Also, I've read a lot of the posts previous to my own and I'd like to thank jefbal99 for giving comcast S* everytime (day) something goes wrong with their service. They do the same S* in the Detroit area.
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post #342 of 2698
8/15/07 at 8:56pm
Does Comcast have a newer/better HD DVR box than the DCT6412 III? I've gotten to the point where I'm just tired of dealing with all of the problems it has (lock ups, poor DVR software, etc..) Is there a new one out, or coming out soon?
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post #343 of 2698
8/15/07 at 10:40pm
Hey,

I liked the help I got on my previous question, so I thought I'd try another. I'm still thinking about getting E*, because it has the most HD channels and has the cheapest price (and I just don't trust Comcast), but as I was helpfully told, I need a separate antenna to receive HD local stations in Lansing.

1. Since this is the case, I wonder if I should drop the local stations from my E* package completely (Saving 5 dollars over 12 months, = $60), and then take that money and buy a OTA antenna and get the HD and SD local stations that way (assuming a HD OTA Antenna picks up SD channels). Should I just buy this antenna myself, and if so, where would you recommend and what model? Or, should I see if E* can provide me with one? Also, if E* began to offer local stations in HD off the dish, as this website advertises on their top left corner, would the dish signal get me a better quality picture than my antenna? Lastly, is an OTA antenna difficult to set-up to a HD E* box, and if so, how would I go about it? I guess the installation has something to do with my location, which moves me on to...

2. I'm going to be living in an apartment on the 3rd floor, facing a golf course. I have my own private balcony that (I'd assume) would let me point these devices in any direction I'd need, with north and south walls (I haven't been there, brand new, just going from diagram) It seems southeast would be my best direction. Anyway, I called the apartment to ask if I could get E*, and I was told no (?), until I quoted this FCC regulation that says its against the law for them to deny me E*, if I choose its service. I am currently waiting for a callback. Am I correct in understanding that as long as the balcony I am using is privately leased to me, and my apartment, that I may install a Dish and Antenna onto it?

Thanks for reading if you got this far, and for any help you can provide to me. When I get whatever provider I choose, I will try to give back to the forum for the help its given me. Thanks again.
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post #344 of 2698
8/16/07 at 5:52am
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Originally Posted by PinwiZ View Post

Does Comcast have a newer/better HD DVR box than the DCT6412 III? I've gotten to the point where I'm just tired of dealing with all of the problems it has (lock ups, poor DVR software, etc..) Is there a new one out, or coming out soon?

They have the DCT6416, however, its the same software as the 6412. It has a 160gb harddrive and I've been told that SD channels are much cleaner.

I've also read on this forum that there are some DCH3412/3416s in this area. I've never used one, but those boxes are Digital only.
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post #345 of 2698
8/16/07 at 6:01am
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Originally Posted by JusteBelmont86 View Post

Hey,

I liked the help I got on my previous question, so I thought I'd try another. I'm still thinking about getting E*, because it has the most HD channels and has the cheapest price (and I just don't trust Comcast), but as I was helpfully told, I need a separate antenna to receive HD local stations in Lansing.

1. Since this is the case, I wonder if I should drop the local stations from my E* package completely (Saving 5 dollars over 12 months, = $60), and then take that money and buy a OTA antenna and get the HD and SD local stations that way (assuming a HD OTA Antenna picks up SD channels). Should I just buy this antenna myself, and if so, where would you recommend and what model? Or, should I see if E* can provide me with one? Also, if E* began to offer local stations in HD off the dish, as this website advertises on their top left corner, would the dish signal get me a better quality picture than my antenna? Lastly, is an OTA antenna difficult to set-up to a HD E* box, and if so, how would I go about it? I guess the installation has something to do with my location, which moves me on to...

2. I'm going to be living in an apartment on the 3rd floor, facing a golf course. I have my own private balcony that (I'd assume) would let me point these devices in any direction I'd need, with north and south walls (I haven't been there, brand new, just going from diagram) It seems southeast would be my best direction. Anyway, I called the apartment to ask if I could get E*, and I was told no (?), until I quoted this FCC regulation that says its against the law for them to deny me E*, if I choose its service. I am currently waiting for a callback. Am I correct in understanding that as long as the balcony I am using is privately leased to me, and my apartment, that I may install a Dish and Antenna onto it?

Thanks for reading if you got this far, and for any help you can provide to me. When I get whatever provider I choose, I will try to give back to the forum for the help its given me. Thanks again.

An OTA antenna will pick up both SD and HD channels. Your best bet is a combo VHF/UHF antenna that will pick up everything. I have never worked with the E* STBs, however, on the D* and any ATSC tuner, I've always just plugged in the coax and ran a scan. Better instructions can be posted by an E* sub.

We website looks like a Dish reseller/installer. While they may have insider info on the next DMA's to get HD LiLs, I wouldn't count on anything until Dish says it themselves.

I have lived on the south side of Lansing (Cedar and Northrup area) and on the west side (Willow and Waverly). In both places I have used a simple, indoor antenna from Radio Shack. One the southside I was on the 3rd floor and mainly used it to get WLAJ because Comcast didn't carry it. Now I point to the west and use it to get WOTV out of Battle Creek because WLAJ sucks. However, it pulls all locals just fine for me.

As for an apartment and DBS, you've got the OTARD info, so you should be all set.
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post #346 of 2698
8/17/07 at 10:20pm
Sorry if this has been covered already, the thread is rather long to wade through for specifics.

I'm out in Haslett, I've got E*, with HD and I'm currently doing OTA for locals in HD. I'm also a comcast subscriber, primarily for cable modem service, but since the price is effectively the same, I also have basic cable. Some people at work today were mentioning that Comcast is carrying the locals in HD over the wire, unencrypted(as required from what I understand). Anyway, I've given this a try but substituting my antenna feed for a cable feed, and then scanning on the "cable" setting, but I haven't ever gotten any channels that way. Am I maybe not getting that feed where I am? Or am I doing something wrong on teh E* receiver? The line I've plugged into is pole->1Ghz splitter->receiver, which I had to do because the line into the house won't reach where the receiver is.

Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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post #347 of 2698
8/18/07 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by colema19 View Post

Sorry if this has been covered already, the thread is rather long to wade through for specifics.

I'm out in Haslett, I've got E*, with HD and I'm currently doing OTA for locals in HD. I'm also a comcast subscriber, primarily for cable modem service, but since the price is effectively the same, I also have basic cable. Some people at work today were mentioning that Comcast is carrying the locals in HD over the wire, unencrypted(as required from what I understand). Anyway, I've given this a try but substituting my antenna feed for a cable feed, and then scanning on the "cable" setting, but I haven't ever gotten any channels that way. Am I maybe not getting that feed where I am? Or am I doing something wrong on teh E* receiver? The line I've plugged into is pole->1Ghz splitter->receiver, which I had to do because the line into the house won't reach where the receiver is.

Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Your TV needs to have a QAM tuner to receive clear digital cable channels
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post #348 of 2698
8/18/07 at 4:59pm
Ah I see, I didn't research carefully, I thought it had a QAM tuner in it.
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post #349 of 2698
8/19/07 at 1:28pm
So I'm watching pro b!tch volleyball today, May/Walsh vs Youngs/Branagh, in glorious HD on NBC. It's a good finals match out at the Boston Open. Good action, good picture. Then at 1 pm, WILX-DT1 uncermoniously dumps over to the Tigers-Yankees game. I only got to see the first game of the volleyball match and come to find out there was an upset. Bring me the engineeer's head!
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post #350 of 2698
8/19/07 at 2:00pm
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So I'm watching pro b!tch volleyball today, May/Walsh vs Youngs/Branagh, in glorious HD on NBC. It's a good finals match out at the Boston Open. Good action, good picture. Then at 1 pm, WILX-DT1 uncermoniously dumps over to the Tigers-Yankees game. I only got to see the first game of the volleyball match and come to find out there was an upset. Bring me the engineeer's head!

WILX is the Tigers OTA network for Lansing. If you go back in this thread you will find other times we'vee become frustrated by this. I emailed Gary King and he passed up our suggestion of keeping the Tigers on the analog feed and NBC HD on the Digital feed, but we haven't seen a change yet.

Usually the guide data is updated, but sometimes its incorrect.
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post #351 of 2698
8/19/07 at 5:24pm
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WILX is the Tigers OTA network for Lansing. If you go back in this thread you will find other times we'vee become frustrated by this. I emailed Gary King and he passed up our suggestion of keeping the Tigers on the analog feed and NBC HD on the Digital feed, but we haven't seen a change yet.

Usually the guide data is updated, but sometimes its incorrect.

I knew that but they usually don't show only half of a program then bail out of it when the Tigers come on. Generally they will fill that block with reruns or informercials up to game time rather than depart from an ongoing program.
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post #352 of 2698
8/21/07 at 5:11am
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New channel in the guide this morning, 255. Its not identified and every 30 min slot is TBA, but its a placed holder in the S&E tier for the Big Ten Network.

There is a note to visit a website to get the Big Ten Network on the S&E Teir.
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post #353 of 2698
8/22/07 at 6:26am
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New channel in the guide this morning, 255. Its not identified and every 30 min slot is TBA, but its a placed holder in the S&E tier for the Big Ten Network.

There is a note to visit a website to get the Big Ten Network on the S&E Teir.

Does the channel assignment (255) imply an SD feed?

I'm on the East Lansing network, where Comcast still doesn't have the bandwidth to deliver WSYM-HD. So if they claim they'll willing to roll out BTN-HD as soon as Delaney drops the price, me having big laugh-laugh.
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post #354 of 2698
8/22/07 at 6:34am
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Does the channel assignment (255) imply an SD feed?

I'm on the East Lansing network, where Comcast still doesn't have the bandwidth to deliver WSYM-HD. So if they claim they'll willing to roll out BTN-HD as soon as Delaney drops the price, me having big laugh-laugh.

Comcast has made no mention of HD carriage
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post #355 of 2698
8/22/07 at 10:34am
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So I need D*'s Choice package to get BTN.

Startup Costs
2 DIRECTV® HD Receiver $198.00
Instant Online Rebate -$99.00
1 Handling and Delivery Fee $0.00
1 Standard Professional Installation $0.00
Total Startup Costs: $99.00
Your First Month's Bill
CHOICE $49.99
SPORTS PACK $12.00
HD Access $9.99
Lease Fee $4.99
Instant Rebate -$5.00
First Month's Total: $71.97

This is compared to the ~$100.00/month that Comcast charges me for the same thing, except i have a Comcast DVR, so take off the $13.00/month and I'm still savings $20/month. Plus all the HD that they will be adding as channels go live.

I'm giving Comcast until the week after the 1st round of B10 games, then my order goes in. And I'm pretty sure that I can talk them into some sort of a discount to get that 2nd receiver for free. Plus a free $50.00 VISA gift card.
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post #356 of 2698
8/24/07 at 12:18pm
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I'm giving Comcast until the week after the 1st round of B10 games, then my order goes in.

The following information is not intended as a recommendation, just an advisory for those of you that might be considering DirecTV. Here is some recent news from Ohio (which may or may not be relevant to installation schedules in Central Michigan)...
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http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...1_7I7MC2O.html

Satellite-dish installers in central Ohio are preparing for a crush of orders from Buckeye fans as the Big Ten Network continues its stalemate with Time Warner and other video-service providers.

With a week and a half remaining before the network broadcasts Ohio State University's football opener Sept. 1 against Youngstown State, time could be running out to install the systems before the game, the installers say.

DirecTV spokesman Robert Mercer said it will take an average of seven days to fill orders placed through the company. Third-party satellite installers also sell the service, however, and say they can get it done sooner.
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post #357 of 2698
8/24/07 at 12:38pm
I guess I'm just cheap. If I want to see the Big Ten Network, I guess I will have to do the same thing I do when ESPN has something on it I want to watch, and go to a local bar and pay by the glass to watch.....
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post #358 of 2698
8/24/07 at 12:44pm
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The following information is not intended as a recommendation, just an advisory for those of you that might be considering DirecTV. Here is some recent news from Ohio (which may or may not be relevant to installation schedules in Central Michigan)...
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http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...1_7I7MC2O.html

Satellite-dish installers in central Ohio are preparing for a crush of orders from Buckeye fans as the Big Ten Network continues its stalemate with Time Warner and other video-service providers.

With a week and a half remaining before the network broadcasts Ohio State University's football opener Sept. 1 against Youngstown State, time could be running out to install the systems before the game, the installers say.

DirecTV spokesman Robert Mercer said it will take an average of seven days to fill orders placed through the company. Third-party satellite installers also sell the service, however, and say they can get it done sooner.

That is contrary to what a D* rep told me. (Mind you this was s CSR and he was just trying to sell the service) I was informed that if I placed my order on 9/3 that I would be up and running before COB on 9/7
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post #359 of 2698
8/24/07 at 12:56pm
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That is contrary to what a D* rep told me. (Mind you this was s CSR and he was just trying to sell the service) I was informed that if I placed my order on 9/3 that I would be up and running before COB on 9/7

I didn't say it was applicable here, in fact I said it might not be. Your local mileage may vary.
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post #360 of 2698
8/27/07 at 10:52am
I have been getting 1 second audio drop outs on 23.1 lately. Anyone else notice this or is it just me?
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