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post #481 of 2698
10/1/07 at 7:56am
I'm sorry if this has been answered earlier, but it's difficult to find in 16 pages of threads.

I recently got a HD set and hooked it up to my cable (Comcast expanded basic). I now can see additional channels (NBC HD, ABC HD, CBS HD, and PBS HD). I also had G4 for a couple weeks, but that has since disappeared. I saw a commercial that said that Fox 47 has HD broadcasting on 47.1 (which I assume to be the OTA channel). Does anyone know what channel Comcast is broadcasting it on? I ABC and CBS are on 12.x, and NBC and PBS are on 73.x. My TV's autoscan hasn't found the FOX HD channel yet either.
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post #482 of 2698
10/1/07 at 8:07am
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TBS=HD appears to be randomly popping into channel guides on East Coast Comcast systems. Anybody seeing an unexpected addition to the HD line up for the tie breaking game tonight?
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post #483 of 2698
10/1/07 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by EndingPop View Post

I'm sorry if this has been answered earlier, but it's difficult to find in 16 pages of threads.

I recently got a HD set and hooked it up to my cable (Comcast expanded basic). I now can see additional channels (NBC HD, ABC HD, CBS HD, and PBS HD). I also had G4 for a couple weeks, but that has since disappeared. I saw a commercial that said that Fox 47 has HD broadcasting on 47.1 (which I assume to be the OTA channel). Does anyone know what channel Comcast is broadcasting it on? I ABC and CBS are on 12.x, and NBC and PBS are on 73.x. My TV's autoscan hasn't found the FOX HD channel yet either.

Where are you located at?

Comcast's East Lansing network is supposedly undergoing upgrades and WSYM is not currently available in EL.

The first post has the Comcast rundown for the DMA, but it notes that not all channels are available in all areas.
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post #484 of 2698
10/1/07 at 8:12am
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Where are you located at?

Comcast's East Lansing network is supposedly undergoing upgrades and WSYM is not currently available in EL.

The first post has the Comcast rundown for the DMA, but it notes that not all channels are available in all areas.

I'm in Okemos.
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post #485 of 2698
10/1/07 at 8:13am
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I'm in Okemos.

I believe that you are currently SOL...

sorry
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post #486 of 2698
10/1/07 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by EndingPop View Post

I'm in Okemos.

I can confirm Fox isn't available on Comcast EL. I'm in Okemos and I can actually pull in more Digital channels with an antenna than are clear QAM on Comcast. I decided to spend that extra money Comcast wanted for the HD package on a Silver Sensor antenna instead. Until they expand the offerings in EL, I just don't think it is worth the extra money for EPSN/2, onDemand and a few throwaway channels.
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post #487 of 2698
10/1/07 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by wb8tgy View Post

FatRabbit342,

Just try turning your antenna, you should be able to get them. They are south of town near WILX-DT and WLAJ-DT.

I'll try turning it and scanning for digital channels again. Antennaweb.org says the compass orientation is 201 degrees so I'll try and check that out. Has anyone else had a problem getting fox in OTA? Thanks for the response
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post #488 of 2698
10/1/07 at 3:13pm
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OK, you have the slimline dish, but do you have an H20, HR20, H21 or HR21 receiver? And if you have one of those receivers, do you have the B-band converter hooked up in the back?

Yeah, I have the H20, the Slimline 5LNB, and the B-Band converter, and I'm getting 16 Transponders from 103 degrees, but they all come up zero. They told me on the phone that I just have to wait. I'm getting ESPNHD on 73 and 206, but the signal doesn't look any difference from the other, and I get all the channels I already had on the 200 level in HD, but none of the new ones. My signal strength in general is still pretty weak. I guess I'll just keep waiting, because I'm not "allowed" to complain again about this until next week, according to my installer. Thanks.
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post #489 of 2698
10/1/07 at 3:45pm
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Originally Posted by JusteBelmont86 View Post

Yeah, I have the H20, the Slimline 5LNB, and the B-Band converter, and I'm getting 16 Transponders from 103 degrees, but they all come up zero. They told me on the phone that I just have to wait. I'm getting ESPNHD on 73 and 206, but the signal doesn't look any difference from the other, and I get all the channels I already had on the 200 level in HD, but none of the new ones. My signal strength in general is still pretty weak. I guess I'll just keep waiting, because I'm not "allowed" to complain again about this until next week, according to my installer. Thanks.

I'd check out dbstalk and read up on adjusting your dish manually. they have a video and manual on the slimline
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post #490 of 2698
10/1/07 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

I'd check out dbstalk and read up on adjusting your dish manually. they have a video and manual on the slimline

They threatened me not to touch the Slimline 5LNB because its DirecTV property and its about 3 stories up on my apartment building, but I'll check that out.
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post #491 of 2698
10/2/07 at 5:45am
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Originally Posted by jefbal99, in part View Post

Comcast's East Lansing network is supposedly undergoing upgrades and WSYM is not currently available in EL.

I had Comcast out yesterday to slap a couple of Cablecards into my TiVoHD. The tech and the CSR who took the service order were aware of the East Lansing buildout and were pretty confident that it will be up by the end of the year. Comcast sounds motivated - apparently the economics on Digital Voice are such that they put a fair amount of resources behind it.

Great technician, btw. He tested the line at the TV, found the signal level a bit low and knew that TiVos tend to be fussy about their signal. Rather than tell me that the wires weren't good enough, he climbed the pole, ripped out an old (HBO/Showtime) analog filter for a few more dB and tried the install. Works fine!

Why am I quoting jefbal99 on the WSYM-HD noncarriage? The TiVoHD does both QAM and ATSC, so it's perfect for the East Lansing/Meridian situation. I have a Silver Sensor on top of the TV aimed just to get the WSYM signal. Since there's just the one HD channel missing from the Comcast East Lansing lineup, I can fill in the hole with the OTA signal and not worry about rotating the antenna.
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post #492 of 2698
10/2/07 at 6:19am
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I had Comcast out yesterday to slap a couple of Cablecards into my TiVoHD. The tech and the CSR who took the service order were aware of the East Lansing buildout and were pretty confident that it will be up by the end of the year. Comcast sounds motivated - apparently the economics on Digital Voice are such that they put a fair amount of resources behind it.

Great technician, btw. He tested the line at the TV, found the signal level a bit low and knew that TiVos tend to be fussy about their signal. Rather than tell me that the wires weren't good enough, he climbed the pole, ripped out an old (HBO/Showtime) analog filter for a few more dB and tried the install. Works fine!

Why am I quoting jefbal99 on the WSYM-HD noncarriage? The TiVoHD does both QAM and ATSC, so it's perfect for the East Lansing/Meridian situation. I have a Silver Sensor on top of the TV aimed just to get the WSYM signal. Since there's just the one HD channel missing from the Comcast East Lansing lineup, I can fill in the hole with the OTA signal and not worry about rotating the antenna.

Thats awesome, sounds like you got a good tech, did you get a name by chance?

Did they bring out two standard cable cards or have the TivoHDs been updated for M-Card support yet?

I don't know if Comcast in Lansing is offering M-cards, but my DCH3416 has an M-Card in it.

If they support the M-cards, will save ya on a rental fee for the 2nd S-Card
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post #493 of 2698
10/2/07 at 7:34am
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Thats awesome, sounds like you got a good tech, did you get a name by chance?

Did they bring out two standard cable cards or have the TivoHDs been updated for M-Card support yet?

I don't know if Comcast in Lansing is offering M-cards, but my DCH3416 has an M-Card in it.

If they support the M-cards, will save ya on a rental fee for the 2nd S-Card

I did get the name and ID number and I'll post it later. According to the tech, there are also good and bad CSRs and I got lucky there, too. (Got a guy who understood that the key to a TiVo install is to do the cards one at a time.)

I got two Motorola S-cards. The TiVoHD supports M-cards out of the box, while TiVo's original, prettier Series 3 will need a promised software update. Comcast East Lansing didn't have any M-cards handy.
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post #494 of 2698
10/2/07 at 9:31am
Any word on when Comcast Lansing (not EL) customers will get the newly announced TBS-HD, and CNN-HD channels added to our lineup?
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post #495 of 2698
10/2/07 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by JusteBelmont86 View Post

Yeah, I have the H20, the Slimline 5LNB, and the B-Band converter, and I'm getting 16 Transponders from 103 degrees, but they all come up zero. They told me on the phone that I just have to wait. I'm getting ESPNHD on 73 and 206, but the signal doesn't look any difference from the other, and I get all the channels I already had on the 200 level in HD, but none of the new ones. My signal strength in general is still pretty weak. I guess I'll just keep waiting, because I'm not "allowed" to complain again about this until next week, according to my installer. Thanks.

Sounds like you got an installer who wanted to do the job fast but got it only half-a$$ed.

Just for sh!ts and gr!ns, try doing a reset on your H20 by pushing the red button in the front access card compartment.
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post #496 of 2698
10/2/07 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by DanMacMan View Post

Any word on when Comcast Lansing (not EL) customers will get the newly announced TBS-HD, and CNN-HD channels added to our lineup?

Ken H is being his usual crypticself in the Detroit thread. I would look for TBS soon and the rest right behind them, however, that is just my guess.
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post #497 of 2698
10/2/07 at 1:42pm
Has anyone else been having picture break up and sound cutting in and out on the Comcast On Demand service? I've been getting this lately, but not all the time. It doesn't seem to affect any of the other channels, HD or SD.
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post #498 of 2698
10/2/07 at 6:24pm
Alright, so i have finally had it with figuring out why i cannot get a decent signal lock on WLAJ. Today i ordered some RG-11 cable (50 foot) that is going from my DB8 multi-directional antenna, into the house and i am debating on using a power amp splitter or just going directly to my wall jack.

The reason i am debating on the splitter is because i would like to run the antenna wire to two jacks in the house, and am worried about signal loss with splicing into the RG-11 cable.

Anywho i am also getting a higher mast for my antenna to get above my damn pine trees. So hopefully when my new cable comes in, ill be able to get a decent signal lock on WLAJ and finally be able to get ABC 12 back.

For any of you who are wondering in in Haslett on Creekwood Lane. I "should" be able to get WLAJ fine, and before i started messing around with my cable i was able to get ABC 12 just fine, so ill let you all know my findings.

And if anyone has any advice or anything like that please let me know, i would be much appriciated.
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post #499 of 2698
10/2/07 at 8:26pm
I have Comcast in EL and have been using a HDHomeRun to pull in the QAM until the other night when CBS and NBC both started returning "No Signal" and WKAR's signal was so weak I couldn't get more than a few frames. The Comcast HD box pulls in all three just fine, so I guess that's the end of my HD recording over QAM.

Speaking of this apparent "build up" for EL. I had a tech tell me in March that they would have the system upgraded by beginning of summer, so I wouldn't expect anything by the end of the year. I occasionally send emails to Comcast asking what the deal is and they actually told me recently they weren't able to negotiate carrier rights for EL for any HD channels other than what we already had. I asked if that applied to VersusHD and they said "yes" so I asked why they would have to negotiate for carrier rights to a channel they own.

They don't respond to my emails anymore.
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post #500 of 2698
10/3/07 at 5:20am
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limiter, CSRs are morons. They have national carriage agreements and when the bandwidth is available, the channels will be available.

As for losing the QAMs, try a rescan and see if the channels were moved to different frequencies, if not, call the 800 number. The first person you speak with won't be able to do a damn thing for you, request a supervisor or tech supervisor. They are usually the only ones that have a clue about QAM.

Prolly gonna be a truck roll to check signal levels, unless they have multiple complaints in your area.
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post #501 of 2698
10/3/07 at 6:08am
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Updated D*'s 11 new channels that rolled this morning, all CONUS & MPEG4 from 103b.

242 USA HD
244 SciFi HD
273 Bravo HD
504 HBO HD West
512 Cinemax HD East
514 Cinemaz HD West
622 YES HD
623 NESN HD
625 SNY HD
629 CSN MA HD
640 CSN C HD
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post #502 of 2698
10/3/07 at 6:19am
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

As for losing the QAMs, try a rescan and see if the channels were moved to different frequencies, if not, call the 800 number. The first person you speak with won't be able to do a damn thing for you, request a supervisor or tech supervisor. They are usually the only ones that have a clue about QAM.

Prolly gonna be a truck roll to check signal levels, unless they have multiple complaints in your area.

Why would the Comcast HD box still pick up those channels ok if the signal was weak? When I did a rescan with HDHomeRun the CBS channel would constantly jump around on the sub-channel numbers, it was weird. VLC couldn't lock onto any of them for more than a second before they moved.
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post #503 of 2698
10/3/07 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by limiter View Post

Why would the Comcast HD box still pick up those channels ok if the signal was weak? When I did a rescan with HDHomeRun the CBS channel would constantly jump around on the sub-channel numbers, it was weird. VLC couldn't lock onto any of them for more than a second before they moved.

Touche, i failed to realize you had the HD box too...

Could be part of the upgrade or the Moto box may not needs as strong a signal to lock on as the HomeRun?

How many splits to you have in each run?
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post #504 of 2698
10/3/07 at 9:10am
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Could be part of the upgrade or the Moto box may not needs as strong a signal to lock on as the HomeRun?

How many splits to you have in each run?

The HDHomeRun is on a cable split twice from 1 cable coming in on one side of the house (from the box outside). I am only using one input on the HDHomeRun for QAM (the other is OTA for Fox47). The Moto box is split off one cable split 4 times.

Is the Tivo HD pretty good at picking up the HD channels (with Cable Card)? I'm going to really miss having HD recordings if I don't get the HDHomeRun working. The other concern I have is Comcast going to Switched Digital making a Tivo purchase a bad investment.
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post #505 of 2698
10/3/07 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by cornell_lingus View Post

Sounds like you got an installer who wanted to do the job fast but got it only half-a$$ed.

Just for sh!ts and gr!ns, try doing a reset on your H20 by pushing the red button in the front access card compartment.

Yeah, tried the reset about 3 times over the week I've been waiting, but no luck, although this worries me:
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global...ssetId=3280006

I would think my equipment is "wired for the new equipment" because it was built 2 months ago, but, its the only thing I can't account for. Last week the guy on the phone was telling me they needed to throw some master switch or something (I forget the terminology) and I should just wait, but I don't see what waiting is going to get me.
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post #506 of 2698
10/3/07 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by JusteBelmont86 View Post

Yeah, tried the reset about 3 times over the week I've been waiting, but no luck, although this worries me:
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global...ssetId=3280006

I would think my equipment is "wired for the new equipment" because it was built 2 months ago, but, its the only thing I can't account for. Last week the guy on the phone was telling me they needed to throw some master switch or something (I forget the terminology) and I should just wait, but I don't see what waiting is going to get me.

I've never seen anything about MDU being different. According to that you with an MDU setup don't need a BBC for the new channels but I would have no clue why MDU doesn't and everybody else does. Somebody smarter than me, which sure isn't a short list, is going to have to explain that one.
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post #507 of 2698
10/3/07 at 6:45pm
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Updated D*'s 11 new channels that rolled this morning, all CONUS & MPEG4 from 103b.

242 USA HD
244 SciFi HD
273 Bravo HD
504 HBO HD West
512 Cinemax HD East
514 Cinemaz HD West
622 YES HD
623 NESN HD
625 SNY HD
629 CSN MA HD
640 CSN C HD

I don't know about other D* subscribers but I am here to tell you sports on the new mpeg4 channels are looking awesome on my TV.
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post #508 of 2698
10/4/07 at 6:44am
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Well damn, I really expected to see TBS HD yesterday and it wasn't there. Ken just posted in the Detroit thread that it is planned, but no date yet. It may just show up, but he doesn't know when.

I got all giddy this morning because the message light was on my boxes, but it was just the NHL Center Ice announcement. I'm not subscribing this year because Comcast simply refuses to carry the HD content that is offered by In Demand.

Gonna have to skip L&O CI on USA tonight and wait for the NBC replay on Saturday to get it in HD.

Few new cable providers launched the Big Ten Network (RCN and WOW!), we just need one of the big cable providers to add it and then the rest should fall.

D* launched MHD on 332 this morning.
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post #509 of 2698
10/4/07 at 11:46am
I see a TBA channel 255 in Lansing, could that be space for TBS-HD?
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10/4/07 at 1:46pm
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I see a TBA channel 255 in Lansing, could that be space for TBS-HD?

Announced as a placeholder for the Big Televen Network.
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