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Toshiba HD DVD XA2 verses A2

post #1 of 14
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Hello everyone.

Great forum.

My first post so go easy.

I recently upgraded my entire home theater with the following equipment:

Denon 4806 CI
Samsung 57 1080P LCD
Toshiba HD DVD XA2
Toshiba HD DVD A2
Sony PS3
Series 3 Tivo
Philips Color Pronto 7000 URC.
APC 2000 VA Battery Backup

I currently have both the Toshiba A2 and the XA2 hooked up to the Denon with HDMI cables and the Denon sends video via HDMI to the Samsung. I have had both units for 3 weeks and watched about 13 HD-DVD movies and about 25 SD- DVD thus far.

I am no expert but I know what I see and hear and the following comments may be of interest to those yearning for a side by side comparison between the 2 Toshiba players.

Here it goes:

HD picture quality:
The PQ on both units is equal on my Samsung TV. I do not think that the 1080P native signal makes that much of a difference. Both are crisp and clear with good blacks and vivid colors.

SD DVD up conversion:
It is an easy win for the XA2 over the A2. The A2 exhibits a lot more grain and is not as clear or vivid. The picture quality is on par with the units that sell for $75-$129 in all major stores. The XA2 really stands out in this department. The PQ is simply cleaner and exhibits a lot less grain and more vivid colors than its little brother. I believe the XA2 has a Silicon Optix Reon-VX HQV video processor in place of the standard Faroudja. In my eyes this makes all the difference. Even if HD DVD fails, the player is worth the additional cost simply because of the outstanding PQ of SD DVD @ 1080p. (I have over 400 SD-DVDs in my collection.)

Audio Quality:
The bass is great and sounds are crisp and clean. The two units are equal on this front. No major differences when doing A-B comparisons.

I have browsed this forum for weeks prior to posting. Many members have complained about sound issues with both units when concerning base output. I have not had a single problem with either unit when using HDMI to the Denon. Perhaps HDMI made it easy for me because I did not have to deal with the analog issues some have experienced. I do not know for sure. Both units played all discs without lockups, pauses or hiccups. I could not be happier.

In closing, I would recommend both units for different users. The A2 for HD DVD only and XA2 for HD-DVD and outstanding SD DVD up conversion. I am keeping the XA2 and I'll be returning the A2 for a refund.

Michael
post #2 of 14
Nice post and what this forum really is for

Thanks.
post #3 of 14
I agree, nice post and thanks for the info.

I own the HD-A2 (with firmware upgrade) and am pleased as punch with its performance and reliability. I have it running via hdmi --> dvi into a 34" Sony XBR910. Of course the picture is phenomenal with that size of screen.

For SDDVDs I don't use the upconverting to 1080i, though. I find that if I set the player to 480p I get a much nicer picture. Maybe, according to some posts I've come across, it's because I have a crt and not a LCD or Plasma, TVs that really blossom with upconversion.

The only thing I'm envious of in regards to the HD-XA2 is the analog outs. Having heard the pcm tracks on my Sony BDP-S1 has me yearning for TrueHD audio on my A2. But a future HDMI receiver upgrade should remedy my audio dilemma.
post #4 of 14
we have been very happy with the A2 upconverting. My wife has even commented on how good it looks, and I have to tell here "this isn't even an HD DVD". I'm curious to try the XA2 to see if there is even a difference. If it is <$500 when I finish my media room this fall I'll have to pick it up.
post #5 of 14
I don't agree with the HD-DVD part...The HD-XA2 definately plays a better, sharper, and deeper in color more 3D like picture than the A2...period. It also upscales better as you said. On a 120" screen it is really noticable. The problem with the HD-XA2 is not the PQ, it's the audio. This unit is weaker than the first gen players and also is known to have audio screeching issues...as well as power down and power up to correct issues...I sent mine back...Will live with the A1 until Toshiba fixes all known issues.
post #6 of 14
nice review blackssr, thanks. i'm looking at both players myself.
post #7 of 14
I have them both also, and on my 56" dlp, the XA2 wins in PQ on hd and sd. It's a solid built unit.
post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by chuckken View Post

I don't agree with the HD-DVD part...The HD-XA2 definately plays a better, sharper, and deeper in color more 3D like picture than the A2...period. It also upscales better as you said. On a 120" screen it is really noticable. The problem with the HD-XA2 is not the PQ, it's the audio. This unit is weaker than the first gen players and also is known to have audio screeching issues...as well as power down and power up to correct issues...I sent mine back...Will live with the A1 until Toshiba fixes all known issues.


Are the audio problems with analog or HDMI connection? Is the AV receiver a new or older model? Just wondering.


Michael
post #9 of 14
Michale
Thanks for taking the time to post your info. I am going to buy a player next month and I have over 1000 SD DVD's . So you can imagine which one I will buy the HD DVD XA2 . Really wish that I could get both HD and BD . But I am starting with HD DVD !

Welcome to AVS . I have been here over 8 years now and it is a great place ! Johnathan
post #10 of 14
For those two posters who noticed a difference between the A2 and XA2 on HD DVD, its probably quite simple. Your TVs have a poorer quality deinterlacer than Michale's Samsung.
post #11 of 14
I agree. There are no "period"s with such an array of technology interacting with each other.

Many have reported component connections looking as good as HDMI, would this be due to the TV doing as good a job of image processing as the source, or is something lost in the component connection? I ask because HDMI always looks better on my JVC 52", even from a Motorola DVR.
post #12 of 14
Great review! My only surprise was your thought that the A2 SD upconversion was about the same as a mid-to lower priced SD upconverting player. My impression of the A2 is that it has great upconversion beyond most SD upconverting players, although not to the extent of the higher-end XA-2 of course.
post #13 of 14
Both are great players but on my set with component output the XA2 wins the PQ contest. It is not a night and day difference nor would comparing players with similiar source material ever be. It's like comparing my DV-59avi to my Dv-717 dvd players. The 2nd gen players are much improved over 1st gen and I only paid $800 for the XA2. You can call me either cheap or a damn good shopper. I like the video adjustments, for films with very dark prints like Van Helsing I can go to user setting 2 where the brightness is turned up a bit. You are not going to buy the player just for the reon processor. You have the 5.1 output and HDMI 1.3 as well so when you get a reciever with 1.3 you are getting bitstream sound not converted PCM.
post #14 of 14
"HDMI 1.3 as well so when you get a reciever with 1.3 you are getting bitstream sound not converted PCM."

1.1 will do the same.
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