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How to minimize dust blobs with your digital projector.

post #1 of 14
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Ok, so you are getting aggravated with the frequency of dust blobs you are getting with your digital projector. I have had dust blobs in my Panasonic AE100 and AE200 and in both of my Hitachi TX100's and now with my TX200. In fact, in less than 125 hours, I got dust blobs in my TX200 not less than twice. I cleaned dust blobs from inside the projector once, and then it was dust blob free for at least a month or 20 or 30 hours of dvd viewing and then the dust blobs annoyingly re-appeared. There must be a way to reduce this annoyance. I think the TX100 and TX200 have lousy air filter designs because regardless of the number of air filters (the TX100 had two air filters, one foam and one paper(?) while the TX200 has a single electrostatic air filter), these projectors have loosely fitting air filters that clearly do not block all of the dust that can get inside.

Ok, so there must be something you can do if you get dust blobs often. Here are my suggestions to help minimize or possibly eliminate their occurrence.

1) Get a dust cover for your projector so it is covered when not in use. This prevents dust from settling on the air intake due to regular house ventilation or when dusting/vacuuming which often makes the air a little dustier. Also, although it's not the most likely route for dust, when not in use, there is nothing stopping dust from randomly floating backwards through the exhaust and into the projector to settle where-ever it is most likely to cause annoyingly visible dust blobs. A dust cover greatly reduces this chance by blocking the exhaust. Of course, you must also make sure your dust cover stays clean.

2) Be sure your projectors air filter mechanism is fairly tight and effective. If it's not, think about making it a little better by sealing the edges where the air filter is loose and where you figure dust could get in. Don't do anything to significantly reduce the air flow of your projector. Only make changes that are sensible. You simply want to ensure that ALL the air coming through the air filter port must pass through the air filter before entering the projector. You want to maintain high air flow because the air flow is what cools your projector which is get's quite hot dur to the high heat of the bulb.

3) Make an effort to keep your house clean and home theatre less dusty . Keep your house less dusty and make sure your furnace air filter is clean and/or not clogged. Perhaps this is where the better half will take pleasure in hearing that you must "de-contaminate" the house of potential dust blobs. Try to do the vacuuming and dusting enough in advance of projector viewing that enough of the dust you did disturb but not remove from the air has at least settled out. After you do the vacuuming and dusting around the house and in the home theatre, you can treat the two of you to a dvd and some order in food, or maybe you can cook up a storm

4) Clean projector air filter as often as is practical. You could have two air filters and when you are done with a movie, replace the air filter with the clean one and just make sure to wash the dirty one before the next viewing. I did this for two years with my Panasonic AE100 and 200 and it worked wonders. At the start of each dvd I had a fresh clean air filter. After the movie I swapped air filters and before using the projector again, I washed the other air filter, which took all of 2 minutes and then I let it dry underneath a glass so as not to allow dust to contaminate it. You don't have to do this nearly as often as I did here, but I did this because I was experiencing colour uniformity problems which were possibly due to overheating, so I was trying to maintain max air flow at all times. Set up your own system, but having two air filters means you are more than likely to have a clean air filter in your projector when you need it. Keep the extra filter clean and any time you look at the air filter and see it's dirtier than your'd like, let's say right before you planned to watch a dvd with a bunch of friends, you don't have to clean it, just swap with the clean one. It takes time for the air filters to dry, so having two air filters avoids waiting. Of course, not all air filters are washable, but they are better this way. I had fewer dust blobs when I did this with the Panasonic AE100 and 200.

As far as my own personal dust blob adventure goes, I have taken steps to be dust blob free or nearly dust blob free:

A) I bought a dust cover which sits on my projector when not in use.

B) I finally replaced our lame furnace air filter today with a good decent electrostatic washable unit and lo and behold, when custom cutting it to fit, I had a strip of left over material pretty much exactly the right size to make air filters for my projector

C) Now I am making a couple of air filters to fit the air intake grille of my TX200 and;

D) I am going to try and keep the dust down in the house on a regular basis which makes sense anyhow.

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So although this sounds like lots of work that should be un-necessary if only the manufacturers would simply provide proper filtering, I think it is reasonable enough that it will work. I would love for projectors to improve their resistance to dust blobs however the manufacturers can, but in the mean time, I am going to make an effort to reduce my dust blob experiences to a minimum. I will clean my projector once more after installing my new air filters, and we'll see how many hours I can go without dust blobs.

If anybody else is annoyed by this and/or has suggestions or ideas, or if you just want to share your experience, good or bad, by all means, go ahead.

post #2 of 14
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Originally Posted by cpc View Post

Ok, so you are getting aggravated with the frequency of dust blobs you are getting with your digital projector. I have had dust blobs in my Panasonic AE100 and AE200 and in both of my Hitachi TX100's and now with my TX200. In fact, in less than 125 hours, I got dust blobs in my TX200 not less than twice. I cleaned dust blobs from inside the projector once, and then it was dust blob free for at least a month or 20 or 30 hours of dvd viewing and then the dust blobs annoyingly re-appeared. There must be a way to reduce this annoyance...

In 7 years/over 7 thousand hours on my G11 and about 500 hours on my HD10K I have never had a dust spot.
post #3 of 14
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Lucky you. Or perhaps those projectors are simply better at staying dust free. CRT projectors don't have this problem as far as I am aware. DLP projectors don't seem to get dust blobs as much as LCD projectors do. As far as DILA, I am not sure but they are probably immune to dust too.
post #4 of 14
I've had a Panasonic PT-L300 for 3.5 years and I've never had a dust blob (knock on wood). The only reason I can come up with is that I run the fan speed on high, even though the bulb is running at low output. Maybe with the fan running faster the dust doesn't settle inside the projector, but instead just gets blown right through and out the exhaust.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by David_Wi View Post

I've had a Panasonic PT-L300 for 3.5 years and I've never had a dust blob (knock on wood). The only reason I can come up with is that I run the fan speed on high, even though the bulb is running at low output. Maybe with the fan running faster the dust doesn't settle inside the projector, but instead just gets blown right through and out the exhaust.

An interesting theory that makes sense.

How often did you clean your air filter and how dusty/dirty did it get between cleanings?
post #6 of 14
CPC,

I have been reading your posts about projector dust and wondered if you had found any additional filters to put inside your hitachi.

I got a goofy idea to use one of those swiffer cloths as an overlay to try and catch dust. Supposedly they are electrostatic and they catch dust like nothing I have ever seen. Or so my girlfriend tells me

Any thoughts?
post #7 of 14
Just buy a projector with a sealed light path...no filters needed...no dust blobs.
post #8 of 14
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Like I said, I am using some filter material that was left over from my furnace filter. As far as swiffer cloth goes, I have no idea, but as far as I know, it's used as a surface medium. It's not an air filter. I prefer to use something that is already working as an air filter.

Just buying a new projector is great advice. I think I will do that. Seriously, I agree that sealed light path projectors are better and I wish they built them that way. Are there any lcd or lcos projectors with sealed light paths? I am allergic to dlp.
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by David_Wi View Post

I've had a Panasonic PT-L300 for 3.5 years and I've never had a dust blob (knock on wood). The only reason I can come up with is that I run the fan speed on high, even though the bulb is running at low output. Maybe with the fan running faster the dust doesn't settle inside the projector, but instead just gets blown right through and out the exhaust.

Not my case. I had de PT-L300 for 2 years, low lamp - fan speed on high, but had to clean it 3 times for dust deposited on the panels. I clean the filter every month. My HT room has no windows and I keep it very clean. Now I have the AE900 (1 year - 400 hs) and no dust blows (fingers crossed).
post #10 of 14
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An interesting theory that makes sense. How often did you clean your air filter and how dusty/dirty did it get between cleanings?

I don't clean the filter as often as I probably should. Usually about once ever 100 hours or so. The filter is not generally very dirty. i just clean it with some canned air.

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Not my case. I had de PT-L300 for 2 years, low lamp - fan speed on high, but had to clean it 3 times for dust deposited on the panels. I clean the filter every month. My HT room has no windows and I keep it very clean. Now I have the AE900 (1 year - 400 hs) and no dust blows (fingers crossed).

How did you clean the dust out? Did you have to take the projector apart, or did you just have to spray some air into the air intake vent?
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by David_Wi View Post

I don't clean the filter as often as I probably should. Usually about once ever 100 hours or so. The filter is not generally very dirty. i just clean it with some canned air.

How did you clean the dust out? Did you have to take the projector apart, or did you just have to spray some air into the air intake vent?

Answering for myself, when I have dust blobs, I have taken apart the projector to clean inside using Re-Air (re-fillable compressed air cans).
post #12 of 14
Good advice. Prevention is always the best medicine. Let us know how the furnace air filter material works.
post #13 of 14
The Mitsu HC5000's sealed glass optics should also help.

Nothing like a Sanyo though, had a blob was gone after i blew the panel cleaning vents. Wish others followed their example.
post #14 of 14
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I have thought of buying an extra cover and making my own cleaning blow-hole. It's like turning your projector into a whale, only backwards ..although I wonder if trying to vacuum the dust out of the hole on the Sanyo would work also? It seems that the blowing in works because you blow the dust off the areas in the visible path, where-as if you vacuumed through the hole you may suck dust from somewhere else to where its stuck on something and become visible, so maybe it's best to blow rather than suck ....
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