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post #3241 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:48pm
I am definitely considering buying this new HSU sub. This is pretty much the price point and specs I wanted. his jumped out at me though, the amp is only 350 w continuous. I mean, I know that since it's ported that it doesn't need to have an amp with crazy wattage but that still seems a little weak.

Also what do you think of the new HSU versus the Rythmik FV15. The price really isn't that different. The HSU is a good bit bigger while probably having an inferior amp (and Rythmik even offers an upgraded amp).

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV15_specs.html

PS - don't ignore the shipping cost, it's hardly cheap.

I wonder if they would give me a break on the shipping if I blind ordered one. I am a HSU customer and I did just pay 120 bucks plus 2 way shipping to have my HSU amp repaired.
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post #3242 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by Hrimnir View Post
Does anyone know how long he is going to allow the introductory pricing? I won't be ordering till the 25-20th of Dec.
My understanding is that it is not an introductory price....that IS the price.
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post #3243 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:50pm
Curtis..is that in half space? (Ground plane?)

Pretty unbelievably efficient if it is!
Like, holy wow efficient!


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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
A few new things on this sub that I think Pete will post about on the Hsu forum, the a lot of new things in the design, but for starters here are a couple pics and some info:

There is a sealed mode.

Size: 25" x 18" x 26" HWD add 1" for feet and 1" for grille.

FR ground plane is 15-200Hz +-2dB

and for you output junkies: 123-125dB max clean CEA2010 peak output capability from 40-100hz, 121dB@31.5Hz, 118dB@25Hz, 114dB@20Hz (these are with both ports open @ 1 meter).

The kicker....$879 in matte black....$999 in real wood veneer!! The fit and finish on both were excellent!
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post #3244 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by pbmpharmacist View Post
I am definitely considering buying this new HSU sub. This is pretty much the price point and specs I wanted. his jumped out at me though, the amp is only 350 w continuous. I mean, I know that since it's ported that it doesn't need to have an amp with crazy wattage but that still seems a little weak.

Also what do you think of the new HSU versus the Rythmik FV15. The price really isn't that different. The HSU is a good bit bigger while probably having an inferior amp (and Rythmik even offers an upgraded amp).

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV15_specs.html

PS - don't ignore the shipping cost, it's hardly cheap.

I wonder if they would give me a break on the shipping if I blind ordered one. I am a HSU customer and I did just pay 120 bucks plus 2 way shipping to have my HSU amp repaired.
I won't put much into rated amp specs, their is more to it than that.
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post #3245 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post
Those output numbers at this price point is INSANE. This really surpasses my expectations which were pretty high to begin with. OMG. I can hardly believe them until someone tests it, because if those numbers are correct, that bests PB13 Ultra at half the price. Is this for real!?! Just wow!

like cschang said, it was measured at 1 meter instead of 2 like on the graph.

So I wonder what the specs really are.
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post #3246 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by pbmpharmacist View Post
I am definitely considering buying this new HSU sub. This is pretty much the price point and specs I wanted. his jumped out at me though, the amp is only 350 w continuous.
I would not put much weight on amp power on any sub purchase.

Output is based on other factors, and without knowing them, amp power is virtually meaningless.
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post #3247 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by Dalumberjack View Post
like cschang said, it was measured at 1 meter instead of 2 like on the graph.

So I wonder what the specs really are.
You just subtract 6dB from the measurement.
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post #3248 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:53pm
Is this a HSU designed woofer as well, doesn't look anything like the ULS-15 that's for sure.
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post #3249 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
I would not put much weight on amp power on any sub purchase.

Output is based on other factors, and without knowing them, amp power is virtually meaningless.
OK, we'll throw the amp out of the argument. It still seems pretty similar in price point and features to the Rythmik. I'm just saying that off the top of my head, that Rythmik is probably it's closest competitor. Didn't know what you guys thought. Especially you, cschang, since you probably have some kind of experience with Rythmik being on the Ascend forums.
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post #3250 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by edgebsl View Post
Curtis..is that in half space? (Ground plane?)
Yes.
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post #3251 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by pbmpharmacist View Post
OK, we'll throw the amp out of the argument. It still seems pretty similar in price point and features to the Rythmik. I'm just saying that off the top of my head, that Rythmik is probably it's closest competitor. Didn't know what you guys thought. Especially you, cschang, since you probably have some kind of experience with Rythmik being on the Ascend forums.
I have no experience with the vented/ported Rythmiks.
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post #3252 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post
Is this a HSU designed woofer as well, doesn't look anything like the ULS-15 that's for sure.
Yeah Matt...I posted earlier that the driver is completely designed by Dr. Hsu from the ground up.
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post #3253 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
A few new things on this sub that I think Pete will post about on the Hsu forum, the a lot of new things in the design, but for starters here are a couple pics and some info:

There is a sealed mode.

Size: 25" x 18" x 26" HWD add 1" for feet and 1" for grille.

FR ground plane is 15-200Hz +-2dB

and for you output junkies: 123-125dB max clean CEA2010 peak output capability from 40-100hz, 121dB@31.5Hz, 118dB@25Hz, 114dB@20Hz (these are with both ports open @ 1 meter).

The kicker....$879 in matte black....$999 in real wood veneer!! The fit and finish on both were excellent!

I just got back from the HSU open house, and I was very impressed by this subwoofer!

The quality, output and performance at this price point is incredible.

I really love the way it looks, even though it is on the large side for my taste.

Thanks for posting Curtis, good meeting you.
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post #3254 of 5955
11/6/10 at 4:59pm
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
Yeah Matt...I posted earlier that the driver is completely designed by Dr. Hsu from the ground up.
Ah, missed it. Tracking four threads atm while at work.
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post #3255 of 5955
11/6/10 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by Matt34 View Post
Ah, missed it. Tracking four threads atm while at work.
Slacker!
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post #3256 of 5955
11/6/10 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
You just subtract 3dB from the measurement.
isn't it true that sitting half the distance from something will increase your db by 6 db.
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post #3257 of 5955
11/6/10 at 5:08pm
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
You just subtract 3dB from the measurement.
No you subtract 6db per meter.

Still darn pretty amazing!

Did he have a chance to measure it outdoors or was that simulation based off of the peak power rating?
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post #3258 of 5955
11/6/10 at 5:17pm
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Originally Posted by microphage1 View Post
isn't it true that sitting half the distance from something will increase your db by 6 db.
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Originally Posted by edgebsl View Post
No you subtract 6db per meter.

Still darn pretty amazing!

Did he have a chance to measure it outdoors or was that simulation based off of the peak power rating?
You guys are right...I fixed my post.

The product description I have says "measured outside".

I am off to a dinner party....
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post #3259 of 5955
11/6/10 at 5:19pm
Much appreciated Curtis!

Have fun!

Exciting stuff!
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post #3260 of 5955
11/6/10 at 6:08pm
VTF-15H

I put in a request for one in Rosenut. I had to do it via email since the order form online is for the US only.
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post #3261 of 5955
11/6/10 at 6:10pm
The shipping cost is pretty good. Going by the weight spec on the VTF 15H page of 123 lbs, that's more than resonable . Impressive numbers., unique look. Looks like a winner.
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post #3262 of 5955
11/6/10 at 6:12pm
Oh wow!,
the design looks great. Not to mention the db performance!
Shoot,i'm gonna have to wait for more reviews before i buy my new sub.
Hope some one poste a youtube video of there review.
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post #3263 of 5955
11/6/10 at 6:51pm
Thanks for the kind words everyone! On the Hsu Research forum I have posted all the info that was provided at the Open House.

Just to clarify, the standard finish is [non-vinyl] Satin Black, not Matte Black.

Sincerely,
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post #3264 of 5955
11/6/10 at 6:57pm
That is one sexy looking sub. Looks like I will for sure put my VTF-3 MK3 up for sale, I wonder if they take trade ins?
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post #3265 of 5955
11/6/10 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by DDigitalGuy05 View Post
Oh wow!,
the design looks great. Not to mention the db performance!
Shoot,i'm gonna have to wait for more reviews before i buy my new sub.
Hope some one poste a youtube video of there review.
How is this different from the current HSU ported subs or SVS subs where you lose some headroom with lower tuning?
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post #3266 of 5955
11/6/10 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by mdm1699 View Post
How is this different from the current HSU ported subs or SVS subs where you lose some headroom with lower tuning?
15" custom driver for starters.

I think the numbers posted do reflect that, but it apparently still packs a wallop.
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post #3267 of 5955
11/6/10 at 11:17pm
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

Those output numbers at this price point is INSANE. This really surpasses my expectations which were pretty high to begin with. OMG. I can hardly believe them until someone tests it, because if those numbers are correct, that bests PB13 Ultra at half the price. Is this for real!?! Just wow!

The VTF-15H has seriously good output capability. Dr. Hsu only demoed a single unit for most of the day at the Open House, and even that was scary from the next two rooms over. To put things into perspective, one would need ULS-15 DualDrive to match/exceed the max clean output capability of a single VTF-15H at all frequencies from 16-100Hz. In turn, one would need ULS-15 QuadDrive to match/exceed the max clean output capability of VTF-15H DualDrive at all frequencies from 16-100Hz. But hey, it is twice the size of the ULS-15 too!

The VTF-15H amplifier is very good, runs cool to the touch, and has the highest short-term amp power in it's class (based on our internal measurements). In addition to an Operating Mode Switch (EQ1 = '0/1 port open', EQ2 = '0/1/2 ports open'), there is a brand new continuously variable Q control (0.3 through 0.7) that allows one to adjust the low frequency rolloff to give flatter in-room response and/or higher headroom. This Q control in combination with support for five different [ported and sealed] operating modes means that one can have potentially dozens and dozens of different frequency response curves to choose from with this subwoofer.

Sincerely,
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post #3268 of 5955
11/6/10 at 11:20pm
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post

Yeah Matt...I posted earlier that the driver is completely designed by Dr. Hsu from the ground up.

That's right Curtis. The VTF-15H driver/amplifier/enclosure/ports/grille/feet were all designed from the ground up.
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post #3269 of 5955
11/6/10 at 11:36pm
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Originally Posted by Pete_Hsu View Post

That's right Curtis. The VTF-15H driver/amplifier/enclosure/ports/grille/feet were all designed from the ground up.

I love the fact that Dr. Hsu never stops exploring new ways to improve his subs. The triangular slot ports are just plain cool.
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post #3270 of 5955
11/6/10 at 11:40pm
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Originally Posted by Pete_Hsu View Post

The VTF-15H has seriously good output capability. Dr. Hsu only demoed a single unit for most of the day at the Open House, and even that was scary from the next two rooms over. To put things into perspective, one would need ULS-15 DualDrive to match/exceed the max clean output capability of a single VTF-15H at all frequencies from 16-100Hz. In turn, one would need ULS-15 QuadDrive to match/exceed the max clean output capability of VTF-15H DualDrive at all frequencies from 16-100Hz. But hey, it is twice the size of the ULS-15 too!

The VTF-15H amplifier is very good, runs cool to the touch, and has the highest short-term amp power in it's class (based on our internal measurements). In addition to an Operating Mode Switch (EQ1 = '0/1 port open', EQ2 = '0/1/2 ports open'), there is a brand new continuously variable Q control (0.3 through 0.7) that allows one to adjust the low frequency rolloff to give flatter in-room response and/or higher headroom. This Q control in combination with support for five different [ported and sealed] operating modes means that one can have potentially dozens and dozens of different frequency response curves to choose from with this subwoofer.

Sincerely,

Wow thats insane... allowing someone to tweak the subwoofer exactly to their liking is probably the right direction to go.
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