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I have been thinking about going from my humble Bic H100 to a VTF-2 MK-3.
My living room is 10x10x19 but opens to 10x10x10 room on
the right side. The left side opens to a stairwell and a hallway with about the same sized opening.
Do you think it will beg too much?
I noticed the VTF-2 MK-3 now only comes in the black finish, anyone know if they are replacing that model or are that just of the other finishes.

looks like you tried it in at least two places? In the picture with the couch, did you try putting it in that corner? If you put it with the ports firing into one wall and the driver firing into the other wall, you might be surprised how much more powerful the bass is at your listening position. Might be too boomy too, but worth a try. I had almost 6 db difference between mid wall and corner in my living room.

I upgraded from a BIC F-12 and let me tell you, it is a giant improvement. I don't believe in too much sub if the bass is quality. Get it and don't look back!

I went from a BIC H-100 to a VTF-3 MK3 just a few weeks ago and it is amazing the difference in sound quality and output capability. The H-100 doesn't have near the accuracy of the HSU.

My living room is 2600^3 ft. and opens up to the right to my kitchen. I have hallways behind my listening position on each side. In total I have around 4500^3 ft. to fill if I shut the 3 bedroom doors and the bathroom door. I am very happy with the 3.3 in my house. It plays 16hz-80hz with authority. Depending on placement I can have flat response with slightly more output from 20hz-80hz(front left corner), or I can get window flexing/house shaking flat response from 14hz-40hz at the expense of less output and less flat at 50-60hz.(left side nearfield position)

The main thing you have to understand is that with subwoofers you hear your room more than the sub when it is playing, so getting to know how your room affects bass frequencies is key to making sure it blends in properly. I'm still trying to decide what spot I like best. Music sounds better with front wall corner placement (flatter/more headroom response), and movies sound/feel better with left side nearfield placement(14 hz extension in this spot). I think If I got the MBM-12 and put it in the corner, with the 3.3 nearfield I would have the best of both worlds.

I would say that the VTF-2 MK3 would not be enough in your room. It would surely be a huge step up from the H-100, but why not get the 3.3 or new VTF-15H if you are going to make the investment? If budget is the limiting factor, I understand and would recommend the 2.3 for now.

Yep I tried it in that corner; from doing the crawl I get the cleanest bass from the current position. In movies and music it was better as well. I might try it again with the EQ off. The orientation also makes a big difference in sound.

so in the corner, it was stong but not flat enough?

I did the crawl test to get a rough idea, but already figured away from walls was going to be bogus, and figured the corner would probably be strongest. But, ended up taping the SPL meter to a mic stand at my listening position, then running a series of test tones through the sub, documenting, and repeating for about six locations. It was fun and gave me a bit of exercise moving the sub and furniture around.

Sounds like you are working your way up to needing a Room Measurement software like REW(Room EQ Wizard). It will run frequency sweeps and graph them on your computer in real time using a soundcard connected to your SPL meter and receiver showing you your room response with different sub or speaker placement/eq settings.

Once you get it up and running, You can move your sub to a new location and see the effect it has on the FR in a matter of seconds.

It is official, I called HSU last night at 10-til close and placed an order for a new VTF-2 MK3. They said the order will be completed and shipped before end of business day today.

I can't wait to see how this new monster performs in my living room/HT.

Until I sell my H100 I can do some side by side comparisons. Now I just need to finally get an SPL meter and tune it to my listening position so it blends.

Congratulations on the new VTF-2 Mk3! It will be a new experience for you listening to movies with subsonic content. My H-100 just didn't compare in any category; sound quality, spl, extension, and build.

It is a good idea to go ahead and get an SPL meter. You will get better integration with your room and system.

Anyone here use a parametric EQ to even out their sub? Can anyone recommend one, I have been reading about the berhinger feedback destroyer, my current receiver only had aydyssey 2eq and ignores ulf, would this still be a good option?

I am wide open for any suggestions on a way to eq my sub.

SMS-1 is a good choice.

If only I had not blown my entire budget on a the VTF-2 MK3 and the radioshack spl, that would be a great choice, anything cheaper though, I don't mind doing a lot of manual configuration.

*edit... Will create a new thread in the appropriate forum. I would appreciate PM's until I do so though.

Thanks ahead of time.

I am using a MiniDSP ($125 + shipping) in combination with REW (Room Equalization Wizard). Works great.

I finally picked up my VTF2-MK3 from HSU on weds. Got around to set it up on Thursday, and let me tell you, I can create mini earthquakes in my room without barely even bumping the gain up a 1/6ths of the way.

This sub is awesome and it managed to fit exactly where my STF-2 was before.

I have yet to be able to calibrate it or rerun Audyssey (waiting on the new MIC from them). But overall it is a big step up from my STF-2.

I was planning on selling my STF-2 but im thinking of possibly running daul subs, with the VTF2-MK3 being the main and the STF-2 helping to smooth out the frequencies. My Onkyo TX-SR707 has 2 sub inputs in the back, so would it be ok to just send 2 seperate RCA cables from the subs to the receiver?

I cant wait to see the potential of these two!

I wouldn't bother running the STF2 with a VTF2, I tried running a STF2 after getting a VTF3, and the STF2 added very little after that. If anything it will detract because what the VTF2 can do easily can be a strain the STF2, and it will only really contribute distortion. If you want to run another sub with the VTF2, the best sub to do that with would be another VTF2, or possibly a Outlaw LFM-1 Plus.

Hey guys, I just want to get your opinions on witch sub to get. I am debating between the VTF-15 and the ULS-15. I will be using the sub primarily for Movie and games and I'm looking for that nice clean punch. Ryan from HSU Research recommended the VTF-15. I just want to get your opinions before I pull the trigger. Thanks guys!

For movies and games, VTF-15 it is.

That is exactly what I was thinking! I was just a little concerned after reading the the Audioholics review. It just seemed negative.

looks like. according to this review, their only complaint was that it was a bit under powered, the amp is 1400w peak though, but they did call it the best buy out of the subs they reviewed though...

Don't be worried. They tested it only in 2 ports opened mode and didn't even mess with the EQ setting on the sub.

This sub will put smiles on your face.

Just a heads up to anyone looking for STF-2 subwoofer. I am having to part with my mint like new STF-2 that I purchased in November. I need to downgrade because I won't have room for it in our new house. I posted it in the classifieds but thought I would also mention it here in case someone was looking for one. I am also going to throw in the Auralex Gramma pad that I purchased for it. I live in Fort Worth, Texas. Thanks!

How much?

I don't know if price talk is allowed in threads but it is in the classified sectio (along with the asking price) if you want to take a look. I would prefer local pickup as I imagine it would be pretty expensive to ship. Thanks!

Don't forget that you can use PM to discuss a sale of your sub with anyone who is interested.

Good point. Thanks!

Okay, I have had my VTF-2 MK3 sub in home for 3 days now, I got it dialed into my system and and have it covering all frequencies form 90hz and below, with my fronts covering 70hz and up. I found this sounds the best in my home. It is set to +3db on the receiver and the dial is at about 9 o'clcok on the sub. (extension 18hz mode)

All I can say is WHOLLY MOTHER OF MOSES DOES THIS SUB HAVE SOME KICK TO IT!
I put in my copy of Transformer Blu-Ray and played the DTS-HD track. The subwoofer was hitting so hard it was insane. I thought for sure I was going to get a knock on the door from the Police. I didn't even have my volume up that high on my receiver. It was set to 35 (Onkyo 606). I gotta say, it is an amazing experience hearing this excellent sub. The bass was so much clearer and was loud and hard hitting when it needed to be, but also quiet in parts where you expect it to be. I have never heard dynamics like this before. Almost makes me want to never go to a theater again since the sound quality does not even compare anymore. My speakers were already better, but now I finally have a sub to match.

Another great suprise, Is that when playing with the test tones on the CD, I found that in my home I the VTF-2 MK3 can extend all the way down to 16hz at a little over 80db. .

I can honestly say, this is one of the best purchases I have ever made in the audio realm. You can add me to the long list of VERY HAPPY HSU owners.

well this is my first post in the hsu thread. i am sorry to say that my vtf3 mk2 doesnt work.. i bought it used from audiogon and it arrived dead.. it would power on but would not produce much output with volume at max doing an rca taptest..

so i am considering replacing the amp since it doesnt work.. i removed the driver and put a new one in it and same conditions.. i am thinking about getting this spa 500

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...07&FTR=hpsa500

to replace the 350watt hsu amp.. what do you guys think?

Have you contacted the seller about the sub. Have you contacted Hsu for advice?

yes. seller claims it was working when it left his house.

and yes i spoke with pete and he suggested i send the amp back in for repair. he quoted between 120 - 160 for repair costs.

he said a newer vtf3 mk3 would be 250. but honestly these amps seem cheap and prone to failure.

the spa 500 is a torrodial [sic] amp and will probably last longer.. has a 1 year warranty and has more power.

Looks like the seller took you for a ride, you should send back for full refund or have him pay for fix. I doubt the amp failed when not plugged in during shipment. Why do you say prone to failure, read through this thread and see what few instances you find, then show me how it was not quickly taken care of. If Pete is selling you a vtf3 mk3 wouldn't it have a warranty? Problem with using a different amp is these are built as a system matching box, driver, and amp to perform best together. You may run into problems trying to use a different amp in this designed system.