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post #3721 of 6210
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Originally Posted by hdtv47lg70 View Post
so i am considering replacing the amp since it doesnt work.. i removed the driver and put a new one in it and same conditions.. i am thinking about getting this spa 500

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...07&FTR=hpsa500

to replace the 350watt hsu amp.. what do you guys think?
First, the SPA amp may not fit the cutout on the sub. Second, the Hsu amp is specifically designed with the tuning options of the sub, and the SPA amp is not.
post #3722 of 6210
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Originally Posted by Luke Kamp View Post

Looks like the seller took you for a ride, you should send back for full refund or have him pay for fix. I doubt the amp failed when not plugged in during shipment. Why do you say prone to failure, read through this thread and see what few instances you find, then show me how it was not quickly taken care of. If Pete is selling you a vtf3 mk3 wouldn't it have a warranty? Problem with using a different amp is these are built as a system matching box, driver, and amp to perform best together. You may run into problems trying to use a different amp in this designed system.

thanks for the reply.. i read many statements on this forum and/or on hsu's forum about people playing them fine one minute and the next time they go to watch a movie it is deaded.

i dont want to link them all. it was several though.. with both the vtf2.3 and the vtf 3.3. pete didnt mention the warranty ... i assume it would be 2 years, the problem is he didnt really say.

i did see that when they repair your amp that they only have a 90 day warranty on it.



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Originally Posted by cschang View Post

First, the SPA amp may not fit the cutout on the sub. Second, the Hsu amp is specifically designed with the tuning options of the sub, and the SPA amp is not.

the cutout is perfect 10x10.. the routered part that makes the amp fit flush will have to be extened .5 inches all the way around.. pretty easy actually.
post #3723 of 6210
i just talked to a nonpete person at hsu. the new replacement amp is only a one year warranty.. no big deal though as most amps are only one year.
post #3724 of 6210
How much better is the VTF-15H than the VTF-3 MK3? Does the 15H just have more output below 20hz? Or is it an all around much better subwoofer? I have read great things about both so it has me intrigued. I'm trying to help a friend put together a system on somewhat of a budget. I'm thinking of suggesting to him the HSU speakers along with one of these subs. I know money is a concern, but if the VTF-15H is that much better I will recommend it. I would at least like to be able to tell him what he will be gaining or losing by choosing one or the other.

How are the HSU speakers for music?
post #3725 of 6210
I'm thinking of buying the VTF-2 MK3 and had a few questions. I have Polk Monitor 70's, CS2, and Monitor 30's for surround in a 5.1 setup with a Pioneer 1020K. My room is 13X21X9 = 2457 total square feet. Primary use is blue rays,sports and a little Xbox 360. My sub budget is $600 before shipping cost.

Question#1. Would the VTF-2 MK3 be too much sub for my room if there is such a thing as too much?

Question#2. Will this sub bother my neighbors? My HT room is nearest my neighbors on the North side, their house is only about 20-25ft from the outside wall of my HT room.

Question#3. Will this sub work ok in a corner? The best placement for the room would be in a front corner.

Thanks.
post #3726 of 6210
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Originally Posted by RedRaider77 View Post

I'm thinking of buying the VTF-2 MK3 and had a few questions. I have Polk Monitor 70's, CS2, and Monitor 30's for surround in a 5.1 setup with a Pioneer 1020K. My room is 13X21X9 = 2457 total square feet. Primary use is blue rays,sports and a little Xbox 360. My sub budget is $600 before shipping cost.

Question#1. Would the VTF-2 MK3 be too much sub for my room if there is such a thing as too much?

Question#2. Will this sub bother my neighbors? My HT room is nearest my neighbors on the North side, their house is only about 20-25ft from the outside wall of my HT room.

Question#3. Will this sub work ok in a corner? The best placement for the room would be in a front corner.

Thanks.

First answer:
Three is no such thing as too much sub. The VTF-2 MK3 would do really well for everything you need. It is even better for music then I had even imagined.

Second answer:
It should not bug your neighbors if they are regular and reasonable people. I can't day for sure how sensitive they are to sound, but you can always turn the sub down and just enjoy how accurate it is. It does but 'have' to always be loud.

Third answer:
Yes, it should be fine in the corner, in fact the corner may even strengthen the sub. Best ready to find the best placement in your home is to do the sub crawl.
post #3727 of 6210
How much better is the VTF-15H than the VTF-3 MK3? Does the 15H just have more output below 20hz? Or is it an all around much better subwoofer? I have read great things about both so it has me intrigued. I'm trying to help a friend put together a system on somewhat of a budget. I'm thinking of suggesting to him the HSU speakers along with one of these subs. I know money is a concern, but if the VTF-15H is that much better I will recommend it. I would at least like to be able to tell him what he will be gaining or losing by choosing one or the other.

How are the HSU speakers for music?
post #3728 of 6210
The VTF-15H is supposed to have twice the output of a VTF3. If your friend can swing that extra cash to pick it up, you should urge him to do so. The HB-1 speakers are very good for music, and great speakers all around. I use my HB speakers primarily for music, I enjoy them a great deal.
post #3729 of 6210
this review will tell you all you need to know about their musical ability

http://www.hometheatersound.com/equi...k2_vtf3mk3.htm
post #3730 of 6210
got an rma number for the bad hsu sub.. we shall see what happens.. i will keep you guys posted..

i was going to get a vtf3mk3 amp to replace it.. but pete said a repaired vtf3mk2 should be just as reliable..
post #3731 of 6210
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post
First, the SPA amp may not fit the cutout on the sub. Second, the Hsu amp is specifically designed with the tuning options of the sub, and the SPA amp is not.
i decided to adhere to your advice, especially since i was experimenting with another sub and that tuning port and selection switch made a ton of difference.. i didnt want to chance it and sacrifice the ability to tune with the ports.. so i am trying to rma my vtf3mk2 amp as opposed to replace it.
post #3732 of 6210
Just ordered a VTF-15H after much deliberation. Dr Hsu responded to my email questions on a Sunday, no less and made the decision much easier. I will be glad to drop the old Velodyne HGS-10 in the lake - I am sick and tired of dealing with the amp problems and clipping. Wore the wife down on the size
post #3733 of 6210
I run audyssey with max extension mode enabled (1 port) on my VTF-3 MK3 and sealed on my MBM-12. Then after Audyssey finishes, I flip the MK3 to max output and MBM to ported mode. This provided MUCH more headroom with MultEQ, but I have not tested it both ways with XT32.

Anyone had success with this technique? It seems to keep Audyssey from flattening the bass response so much.
post #3734 of 6210
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Originally Posted by Schuyler Bain View Post

I run audyssey with max extension mode enabled (1 port) on my VTF-3 MK3 and sealed on my MBM-12. Then after Audyssey finishes, I flip the MK3 to max output and MBM to ported mode. This provided MUCH more headroom with MultEQ, but I have not tested it both ways with XT32.

Anyone had success with this technique? It seems to keep Audyssey from flattening the bass response so much.

All I can say is Audyssey works wonders with my VTF-3R ( essentially a VTF2-MK3) I set it up and run it in max extension mode. To have a full, rich bass at lower listening levels is incredible.
post #3735 of 6210
Hey everyone, I'm likely going to get an HSU sub here in the next few days. Very similar situation to RedRaider77 above - Pioneer 1120, Monitor70/CS2, and eventually will have surrounds. Room size about 11x25x7 or so (roughly 2000 ft^3).

Trying to decide between VTF-2 mk3 and the STF-2. I originally wanted mainly a sub for music but have realized I can get decent bass from the Monitor70s and so I'm more looking for a HT sub as well as long term sub, which may end up in a future music setup.

How significant an increase is the VTF vs the STF? It is something like $220 in shipped price difference.

Also, do these subs have problems with boomy bass?

Thanks so much in advance!

(btw here is the thread talking about my process so far)
post #3736 of 6210
I can say the subs are anything but boomy. Very tight and detailed.
post #3737 of 6210
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Originally Posted by enderland View Post

Hey everyone, I'm likely going to get an HSU sub here in the next few days. Very similar situation to RedRaider77 above - Pioneer 1120, Monitor70/CS2, and eventually will have surrounds. Room size about 11x25x7 or so (roughly 2000 ft^3).

Trying to decide between VTF-2 mk3 and the STF-2. I originally wanted mainly a sub for music but have realized I can get decent bass from the Monitor70s and so I'm more looking for a HT sub as well as long term sub, which may end up in a future music setup.

How significant an increase is the VTF vs the STF? It is something like $220 in shipped price difference.

Also, do these subs have problems with boomy bass?

Thanks so much in advance!

(btw here is the thread talking about my process so far)

Hi,enderland:


Boomy bass? Not a problem.

Since you don't have a big room you can choose either. The VTF-2 MK3 will play much louder, less dist,etc., so if you like to hear your music/movies/games very loud you will need the VTF2's power. At any case, the VTF-2 MK3 will extend much deeper than the STF-2. Maybe in your small room, you can obtain very high 16hz readings...
post #3738 of 6210
Hm.

I get the feeling that even though I do not often listen to super loud music/movies that if I do not get the VTF at some point I will want to push the volume up, and be disappointed if I hadn't gotten the VTF instead of the STF

Arg, buying speakers is death to my wallet.

edit - just ordered the VTF-2 MK3 over the phone Wanted to get the cheaper option but I know I would at some point wonder "what if..." so, I get this sub as a long term investment speaker
post #3739 of 6210
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Originally Posted by enderland View Post

Hm.

I get the feeling that even though I do not often listen to super loud music/movies that if I do not get the VTF at some point I will want to push the volume up, and be disappointed if I hadn't gotten the VTF instead of the STF

Arg, buying speakers is death to my wallet.

edit - just ordered the VTF-2 MK3 over the phone Wanted to get the cheaper option but I know I would at some point wonder "what if..." so, I get this sub as a long term investment speaker

Exactly. The majority of us here think the same way. The bigger the better.
Congrats, you will like it.
post #3740 of 6210
I just ordered the VTF-2 MK3, can't wait to hear it!
post #3741 of 6210
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Originally Posted by RedRaider77 View Post

I just ordered the VTF-2 MK3, can't wait to hear it!

You'll quickly discover any doors or shelves that rattle! When I demonstrated mine for a friend, he couldn't believe it could produce such clean bass that wasn't boomy at all. You'll love it.
post #3742 of 6210
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Originally Posted by EJ View Post

You'll quickly discover any doors or shelves that rattle!

Yes - you will discover rattles. You might as well go to home depot and pick up some thin, adhesive felt and cork squares/circles. The felt is white and cork matches wood grain. This will help rattles that cannot be tightened up.

This is as far as I go on room treatment - for now.
post #3743 of 6210
Haha, I'm expecting a ton of rattle with the exposed HVAC system on the ceiling of my soon-to-be HT room. Might be annoying..
post #3744 of 6210
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Originally Posted by RedRaider77 View Post

I just ordered the VTF-2 MK3, can't wait to hear it!

I own two and I think you'll love it!
post #3745 of 6210
Hi all,

Could someone please give me an idea about where/how to place my HSU VTF3Mk3 subwoofer in my room?

Here's a quick paint job of my room:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/sub-room.jpg dimensions are = 11.5` X 15.5` x 14.5`

Most flexible locations I can place the subwoofer are on the upper & lower right corners of my room due to other stuff that aren't displayed in the image. If you think I should place the subwoofer in some other place, please let me know where so I'd check if I can rearrange the stuff in my room and make it possible to use the subwoofer there.


I understand that the best way to find the ideal location for the subwoofer would be by experimenting, but I'm specially not sure about where to point the ports & woofer (i.e @ walls, corner, listening area..etc), so if you could at least give me a guideline that would make life a bit easier for me to find the right spot for the subwoofer, that would be great.


If it makes any difference @ all, I'm using 5.1 setup: B&W 683 fronts, B&W 685 as a center channel and B&W DM601 S3 for the surround speakers with a Yamaha 663 AVR.

Any help would be really appreciated.
post #3746 of 6210
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

Hi all,

Could someone please give me an idea about where/how to place my HSU VTF3Mk3 subwoofer in my room?

Here's a quick paint job of my room:

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/9783/subroom.jpg dimensions are = 11.5` X 15.5` x 14.5`

Most flexible locations I can place the subwoofer are on the upper & lower right corners of my room due to other stuff that aren't displayed in the image. If you think I should place the subwoofer in some other place, please let me know where so I'd check if I can rearrange the stuff in my room and make it possible to use the subwoofer there.

I understand that the best way to find the ideal location for the subwoofer would be by experimenting, but I'm specially not sure about where to point the ports & woofer (i.e @ walls, corner, listening area..etc), so if you could at least give me a guideline that would make life a bit easier for me to find the right spot for the subwoofer, that would be great.

If it makes any difference @ all, I'm using 5.1 setup: B&W 683 fronts, B&W 685 as a center channel and B&W DM601 S3 for the surround speakers with a Yamaha 663 AVR.

Any help would be really appreciated.

To find the best spot for the sub with the least amount of compromise is to do the sub crawl.

Basically put the sub on the same spot on which you sit and get, say a kitchen/dining room chair. Then set the chair in the possible placements for your room. Put in a movie with a lot of bass and set it to repeat. Then go sit on each location until you find the spot that had the best sounding bass.
After you find your sweet spot, put the sub there and use the included cd with the sub and dial it in to your speakers. And in the future if you wish take some time to eq it. Otherwise, sit back and enjoy your new and awesome sub.
post #3747 of 6210
The HTguys podcast reviewed the HB-1 and the HC-1 in this week's podcast. They seemed to really like the speakers.
post #3748 of 6210
Can you point to that review to us?

Thanks,

caci
post #3749 of 6210
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Originally Posted by cacihome View Post

Can you point to that review to us?

Thanks,

caci

http://www.htguys.com/podcasts/2011/...-speakers.html
post #3750 of 6210
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

To find the best spot for the sub with the least amount of compromise is to do the sub crawl.

Basically put the sub on the same spot on which you sit and get, say a kitchen/dining room chair. Then set the chair in the possible placements for your room. Put in a movie with a lot of bass and set it to repeat. Then go sit on each location until you find the spot that had the best sounding bass.
After you find your sweet spot, put the sub there and use the included cd with the sub and dial it in to your speakers. And in the future if you wish take some time to eq it. Otherwise, sit back and enjoy your new and awesome sub.

Thanks a lot for replying, I'm going to try the crawl method and another SPL method I've read about (here & here) using certain test tones to find the sweet spot since I already own an analog RS SPL meter.

Do I also have to check the subwoofer by pointing it's ports and driver @ different directions as well while remaining in the same place? That's what's confusing me the most at the moment, do most HSU users prefer to point the woofer driver at the listening area or wall, unless that's also totally dependent on my own room's acoustics, setup..etc? It would help if VTF 3 Mk 3 users would at least mention where they're pointing their sub's 12" driver at the moment so maybe I'd get some pattern here.
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