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post #5041 of 6202
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Originally Posted by saltysteven View Post

I just took the vtf-15 plunge!!!!!!

Warning it takes days for the smile to subside then it reappears constantly when bass material is played.
post #5042 of 6202
Indeed..prepare to rewatch many movies and feel and hear things you never knew were there
post #5043 of 6202
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Originally Posted by saltysteven View Post

I just took the vtf-15 plunge!!!!!!

Welcome to the Hsu family! Enjoy it! Post your room layout details and I will help you optimize it's placement. Do include adjoining room details as well.

Never mind! Just saw that you did post it on the 15H thread.
post #5044 of 6202
Thanks everyone!! Very excited to hear her thump! Is there a simple guide for tuning somewhere? Now i'm probably going to need a new surround to keep up with her
post #5045 of 6202
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Originally Posted by saltysteven View Post

Thanks everyone!! Very excited to hear her thump! Is there a simple guide for tuning somewhere? Now i'm probably going to need a new surround to keep up with her

Each room has its own agenda so to speak so placement and tuning will vary if you want it to slam set it with both ports open Q=.3 and EQ=2.
Also you may have to start lower than 9 o'clock on the sub gain to have the AVR closer to 0 out. I ended up at 8;30 with -4 on my AVR which is level matched if I want to run it 3db hot I then set the AVR to -1.
post #5046 of 6202
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Originally Posted by dr_hsu View Post

Welcome to the Hsu family!

Thx Doc and everyone else for the warm welcome, I'm going crazy waiting for it to arrive. What would be a good setting for extension with a decent amount of headroom?
post #5047 of 6202
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Originally Posted by gerald410 View Post

Thx Doc and everyone else for the warm welcome, I'm going crazy waiting for it to arrive. What would be a good setting for extension with a decent amount of headroom?

One port open, EQ2, Q=0.3
post #5048 of 6202


Preface:
Here is a quick layout of my theater and the room dimensions. As you can see, there is not a lot of room to play with. This theater is a converted second floor bedroom. The flooring is plywood/pad/carpet. I built a false wall and stage that is 15 inches in depth and 3.5 inches in height. The rear row of seating is on a riser only inches away from the back wall. Both the stage and riser are filled with insulation.

Dilemma:
My first question is, for this size room (12Wx14Lx8H), which sub would you guys recommend? I was leaning towards the MK4 due mainly to spacial reasons however the 15H is certainly in my line of sight after seeing all of these incredibly positive reviews! I just wonder if it is too much sub for my little space (I know, I know....you can never have too much sub!) My receiver will be an Onkyo 809.

Secondly, due to spacial limitations, I will be unable to fit the sub behind the screen with the L/C/R. I proposed to put it in the front left corner as depicted in the layout. Would this be optimal placement for my setup? Also you can find actual pics of my theater build in my sig. I appreciate the help!
post #5049 of 6202
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Originally Posted by saltysteven View Post

I just took the vtf-15 plunge!!!!!!

That's great news! I very anxious to read your take on it. I've had mine for almost a month and love it .
post #5050 of 6202
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Originally Posted by DimeMecka View Post


That's great news! I very anxious to read your take on it. I've had mine for almost a month and love it .

That's almost as good news as my good news!

Small first floor older home on a floating wooden floor and a hsu vft 15, what could happen? Im just getting it to find the loose window panes

Ill report after I get it running. I'm very happy you are loving yours, that's always a good sign.
post #5051 of 6202
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Originally Posted by azula View Post



Preface:
Here is a quick layout of my theater and the room dimensions. As you can see, there is not a lot of room to play with. This theater is a converted second floor bedroom. The flooring is plywood/pad/carpet. I built a false wall and stage that is 15 inches in depth and 3.5 inches in height. The rear row of seating is on a riser only inches away from the back wall. Both the stage and riser are filled with insulation.

Dilemma:
My first question is, for this size room (12Wx14Lx8H), which sub would you guys recommend? I was leaning towards the MK4 due mainly to spacial reasons however the 15H is certainly in my line of sight after seeing all of these incredibly positive reviews! I just wonder if it is too much sub for my little space (I know, I know....you can never have too much sub!) My receiver will be an Onkyo 809.

Secondly, due to spacial limitations, I will be unable to fit the sub behind the screen with the L/C/R. I proposed to put it in the front left corner as depicted in the layout. Would this be optimal placement for my setup? Also you can find actual pics of my theater build in my sig. I appreciate the help!

A VTF-3 MK4 in your indicated front left corner would be just fine.
post #5052 of 6202
Received my VTF15 yesterday and wow it is huge. I will be setting it up this weekend.

I have a Denon2112ci and need help with settings to run audessey. Where do I put the phase, do I turn on the eq and should I set it up with both ports open, etc?

I will try different settings once I get everything going. Just need a good starting point. This is my first real sub so I don't want to screw up anything.

Thanks in advance for any help I can get.
post #5053 of 6202
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

Received my VTF15 yesterday and wow it is huge. I will be setting it up this weekend.

I have a Denon2112ci and need help with settings to run audessey. Where do I put the phase, do I turn on the eq and should I set it up with both ports open, etc?

I will try different settings once I get everything going. Just need a good starting point. This is my first real sub so I don't want to screw up anything.

Thanks in advance for any help I can get.

Congrats! Welcome to the Hsu family! Have you posted any details on your room? If not, please do. Include details on adjoining rooms as well. Sometimes leaving the doors to adjoining rooms open actually improve deep bass performance. We can make suggestions on where to place your subwoofer.

Regarding Audyssey setup, after you put the sub in our suggested location, set the subwoofer to one port open, EQ1, Q=0.7, phase 0, crossover out, volume half way between min and 9 o'clock position. Run Audyssey. The sub has the flattest outdoor frequency response in this mode. Audyssey will then be just equalizing your room. After the EQ, check the sub out level on your receiver. If it's too low, like - 10 dB, you can turn down the volume on the sub further. You want to aim for between -5 and +5 dB on the sub out on your receiver.

After that, set the sub to two ports open, EQ2, Q=0.3 for starters. Tweak from there based on your personal preference. Enjoy!
post #5054 of 6202
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Originally Posted by dr_hsu View Post

Congrats! Welcome to the Hsu family! Have you posted any details on your room? If not, please do. Include details on adjoining rooms as well. Sometimes leaving the doors to adjoining rooms open actually improve deep bass performance. We can make suggestions on where to place your subwoofer.

Regarding Audyssey setup, after you put the sub in our suggested location, set the subwoofer to one port open, EQ1, Q=0.7, phase 0, crossover out, volume half way between min and 9 o'clock position. Run Audyssey. The sub has the flattest outdoor frequency response in this mode. Audyssey will then be just equalizing your room. After the EQ, check the sub out level on your receiver. If it's too low, like - 10 dB, you can turn down the volume on the sub further. You want to aim for between -5 and +5 dB on the sub out on your receiver.

After that, set the sub to two ports open, EQ2, Q=0.3 for starters. Tweak from there based on your personal preference. Enjoy!

Just to add to this. With Audyssey you typically need to go back and set your speakers to "small" vs "large". You also may need to check the crossover for your speakers. Audyssey will sometimes set it too low (with mine it crossed my speakers over at 40hz, and I prefer 80hz). With Audyssey you can always raise the crossover frequency, but you cannot lower it or you will defeat the EQ. I would start with 80 for your speakers and adjust higher or lower depending on your preference. THX recommends 80hz and this is a good starting point.

http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multeq/how-to
post #5055 of 6202
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Originally Posted by dr_hsu View Post

Congrats! Welcome to the Hsu family! Have you posted any details on your room? If not, please do. Include details on adjoining rooms as well. Sometimes leaving the doors to adjoining rooms open actually improve deep bass performance. We can make suggestions on where to place your subwoofer.

Regarding Audyssey setup, after you put the sub in our suggested location, set the subwoofer to one port open, EQ1, Q=0.7, phase 0, crossover out, volume half way between min and 9 o'clock position. Run Audyssey. The sub has the flattest outdoor frequency response in this mode. Audyssey will then be just equalizing your room. After the EQ, check the sub out level on your receiver. If it's too low, like - 10 dB, you can turn down the volume on the sub further. You want to aim for between -5 and +5 dB on the sub out on your receiver.

After that, set the sub to two ports open, EQ2, Q=0.3 for starters. Tweak from there based on your personal preference. Enjoy!

Dr, you saying to set the sub up differently before running Audyssey then change it after to two ports open? Why is this?
post #5056 of 6202
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Originally Posted by eric-t View Post

Dr, you saying to set the sub up differently before running Audyssey then change it after to two ports open? Why is this?

As a guess to prevent Audyssey doing what EQ1 would do with both ports open.
post #5057 of 6202
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Originally Posted by eric-t View Post

Dr, you saying to set the sub up differently before running Audyssey then change it after to two ports open? Why is this?

You want Audyssey to equalize your room, not the subwoofer's response drop off below it's cutoff. The problem is Audyssey seem to try to get a flat response to below 20 Hz, and can overboost a sub below it's cutoff. Hence, set the subwoofer to the flattest and most extended bass mode so Audyssey is only correcting for the room peaks and dips. After that, you can switch to other modes and the sub will not overload.
post #5058 of 6202
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Originally Posted by azula View Post



Preface:
Here is a quick layout of my theater and the room dimensions. As you can see, there is not a lot of room to play with. This theater is a converted second floor bedroom. The flooring is plywood/pad/carpet. I built a false wall and stage that is 15 inches in depth and 3.5 inches in height. The rear row of seating is on a riser only inches away from the back wall. Both the stage and riser are filled with insulation.

Dilemma:
My first question is, for this size room (12Wx14Lx8H), which sub would you guys recommend? I was leaning towards the MK4 due mainly to spacial reasons however the 15H is certainly in my line of sight after seeing all of these incredibly positive reviews! I just wonder if it is too much sub for my little space (I know, I know....you can never have too much sub!) My receiver will be an Onkyo 809.

Secondly, due to spacial limitations, I will be unable to fit the sub behind the screen with the L/C/R. I proposed to put it in the front left corner as depicted in the layout. Would this be optimal placement for my setup? Also you can find actual pics of my theater build in my sig. I appreciate the help!

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Originally Posted by dr_hsu View Post

A VTF-3 MK4 in your indicated front left corner would be just fine.

Thanks dr! would you recommend the MK4 or 15H for that size room?
post #5059 of 6202
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Originally Posted by azula View Post

Thanks dr! would you recommend the MK4 or 15H for that size room?

He designed them, so his word is more weighty than mine in this regard, but considering what the MK4 does in my... much... larger space? I have to think the MK4 will just hammer in that room. I suspect you'll be flexing drywall no problem.
post #5060 of 6202
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Originally Posted by Alleric View Post

He designed them, so his word is more weighty than mine in this regard, but considering what the MK4 does in my... much... larger space? I have to think the MK4 will just hammer in that room. I suspect you'll be flexing drywall no problem.

Thank for the input! I want to feel it in my chest (if ya know what I mean, lol).
post #5061 of 6202
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Originally Posted by dr_hsu View Post

One port open, EQ2, Q=0.3

Thx Doc, will report back on how it sounds.
post #5062 of 6202
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Originally Posted by azula View Post

Thank for the input! I want to feel it in my chest (if ya know what I mean, lol).

If you really want to 'feel it in your chest', maybe you should consider the 15H...
post #5063 of 6202
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Originally Posted by gerald410 View Post

Thx Doc, will report back on how it sounds.

I look forward to hear your comments, and help you fine tune it (if necessary).
post #5064 of 6202
I getting jealous over all the new purchases...I am wanting to get 2 more VTF2-MKIII's to match the two I have now for all corners to be covered. I was planning on doing this months ago but I bought a new toy and now I have to watch my spending for a few or the wife will have my body hid...bought a Heritage Softail...been listening to its bass more than the HT but still love the pressurization my HSU's give me!
Got a question, since the new subs came out recently with more tune options, is there any new ones that would blend in with my 2-3's? I am sure by end of summer I will be able to get the last 2 to fill up my HT!
post #5065 of 6202
I guess I am getting confused. After running audessey do I turn on the crossover switch?

I thought the receiver was to handle the crossover. Sorry for all the questions,just trying to learn.
post #5066 of 6202
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

I guess I am getting confused. After running audessey do I turn on the crossover switch?

I thought the receiver was to handle the crossover. Sorry for all the questions,just trying to learn.

No the crossover switch is for stereo where there is no sub out you would then use the speaker terminals.
Yes let the AVR handle the crossover usually set at 80Hz.
post #5067 of 6202
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Originally Posted by oztech View Post

No the crossover switch is for stereo where there is no sub out you would then use the speaker terminals.
Yes let the AVR handle the crossover usually set at 80Hz.


Now I get it. Thanks. The other settings are to enhance the sound but the crossover is sent to the mains and sub through the receiver.

I appreciate the help I have found on here.

Room size is approx. 2500 cubic feet. Living room,dining,and kitchen is one large area. Only opens to a hallway that leads to the bedrooms. Because of the window situation the mains,center and plasma have to sit in a corner. We are looking at buying a house where I can build a dedicated HT. For right now I am making do with what I have and can not wait to get everything running,



My equipment is:
Panasonic ST50
Panasonic BDT110 Bluray player
XBox 360
Wii
Denon 2112ci
Emp E55TI's for mains
Emp E56CI for center
Emp E5TI as surrounds
AND NOW A HSU VTF15H

The system will be 60% tv, 20% music and 20% movies
post #5068 of 6202
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Originally Posted by rwe416 View Post

Now I get it. Thanks. The other settings are to enhance the sound but the crossover is sent to the mains and sub through the receiver.

I appreciate the help I have found on here.

Room size is approx. 2500 cubic feet. Living room,dining,and kitchen is one large area. Only opens to a hallway that leads to the bedrooms. Because of the window situation the mains,center and plasma have to sit in a corner. We are looking at buying a house where I can build a dedicated HT. For right now I am making do with what I have and can not wait to get everything running,



My equipment is:
Panasonic ST50
Panasonic BDT110 Bluray player
XBox 360
Wii
Denon 2112ci
Emp E55TI's for mains
Emp E56CI for center
Emp E5TI as surrounds
AND NOW A HSU VTF15H

The system will be 60% tv, 20% music and 20% movies

Nice setup and I am sure you will be more than surprised.
post #5069 of 6202
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Originally Posted by oztech View Post

No the crossover switch is for stereo where there is no sub out you would then use the speaker terminals.
Yes let the AVR handle the crossover usually set at 80Hz.

If you used a receiver with no sub out, then you would connect your L/R speaker outputs to the subs high level inputs, correct? Then how would you connect your L/R speakers?
post #5070 of 6202
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Originally Posted by eric-t View Post

If you used a receiver with no sub out, then you would connect your L/R speaker outputs to the subs high level inputs, correct? Then how would you connect your L/R speakers?

There are double speaker posts one pair in one pair out.
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