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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az

My system is pretty much set in it's placement. Does it matter (with the VTF3-MK4) if the subs speaker is or would be firing partially into the side of my Paradigm M-9's and partially into the was which is about 32" from the wall? Will this affect the sound any?

Jeff

Originally Posted by dr_hsu

That should not matter. Can you post a sketch of your room? No possibility of using the sub as an end table?

Originally Posted by pronghorn/az

No to the end table. We have a sectional couch and due to it's size we don't have end tables! How can I post a sketch of my listening area?

Jeff

Originally Posted by dr_hsu


Can you post a detailed drawing of your room? How large is the dining/living room downstairs? Front to back is 15 ft, and 10.5 ft wide? How far do you sit from the TV wall? If the 15H is within your budget, safer to go for that. The sub will be energizing the whole space downstairs as well.

Originally Posted by GiTcHaSuM

The listening area is 15 ft wide and I sit about 8ft from the wall. This particular arrangement gives the area more open space. The area downstairs is about 16' wide and 25' long and the ceiling is angled up starting at the back wall and goes all the way up the the ceiling upstairs. I hope that is a good description. I have my current sub to the left of the TV, the opposite wall of the open area. I am thinking that the mk4 will be just fine, I certainly don't want too much bass if someone happens to be in the downstairs area watching TV as well. if you still need a drawing, I can have that by tonight. I appreciate all of the info and help. Thank you, sir.

Originally Posted by manonfire

This is my response @ lp with both subs stacked and corner loaded in front right corner in max extension mode

Originally Posted by dr_hsu

Sorry. Read so many posts each day. I remember your name, but don't remember which subs you have, and what your room is like. Can you remind me?

Originally Posted by dr_hsu


You are welcome! Remember that the subwoofer level is set entirely by you. When someone else is downstairs watching TV, you can turn down the bass (use the sub out adjustment on the receiver, or just don't turn the master volume up too high). If it was me, I want to be able to get the bass I want when there is no one else to worry about and enjoy the system. I would not want to compromise so when the situation is right, I regret that I cannot enjoy my system to the full, especially if the cost is not hugely different, and still within my budget. Also, the larger sub will be less stressed at the same listening level, which translates into a more effortless bass (lower distortion), more dynamic (more headroom), and better long term reliability.

Left of the TV sounds good.

Do post the diagram and a plan that shows how the top floor overlaps the lower floor. i.e. which part of the 16 x 25 downstairs is under the 10.5 x 15 upstairs? Also, does the 16 x 25 also has doorways that lead to more areas? If so, how large are those?

Originally Posted by GiTcHaSuM

I'll have the diagram later tonight. The downstairs is open to the kitchen as well, which is directly underneath the listening area. The listening area doesn't overlap anything. Now that I think about it, the listening area is pretty much open to the entire house except for bathrooms and bedrooms with closed doors, so it seems that the answer of which one to get has been answered. Looks like I'll be getting the 15H. Thank you again for all of your help, very informative, it is most appreciated.

Originally Posted by manonfire

Oh that's OK, I have VTF 2mk3 and a 3mk2, was doing some spring cleaning of the house tiles so with furniture out of way mad it easy to move subs around the area.

Originally Posted by dr_hsu


Ah, I see. Did you do the subwoofer crawl and determined that next to the stairs is the best location? If you have not done so, I would place the VTF-3 MK2 at your favorite LP, woofer at ear level (you can place the sub upside down). Then move the mic to the various locations and get a response curve for each position. If you can, change the display scale so you have better resolution. With the same test signal level, graph the response at each position. Post all the curves and I will tell you which position I would pick for the sub. You have SMS-1? Is that how you get the response plot? I am also assuming that the response you posted is without EQ?

Originally Posted by manonfire

Thats the eqd plot. i kind of did it the lazy mans way so i saved myself some time, i did sit the subs @ the lp and and i used the sms-1 and mic and just moved to each spot i could possibly place the sub and looked at thr fr sweeps to see where i had the flattest response with as few dips and peaks. That corner was best spot for max extension. You had suggested behind my couch for placement which in fact is another great spot but i found that to be best spot for maximum output mode with flattest response curve also. My sons kinda hate me right now cause they had to participate. They get so annoyed when i feel like tweaking the system.

Originally Posted by dr_hsu


How does it look without EQ? Can you show the response on a more expanded scale?

Originally Posted by GiTcHaSuM


I'll have the diagram later tonight. The downstairs is open to the kitchen as well, which is directly underneath the listening area. The listening area doesnt overlap anything. Now that I think about it, the listening area is pretty much open to the entire house except for bathrooms and bedrooms with closed doors, so it seems that the answer of which one to get has been answered. Looks like I'll be getting the 15H. Thank you again for all of your help, very informative, it is most appreciated.

Originally Posted by GiTcHaSuM

I ordered the VTF-15H and can't wait for it to arrive...guess I'll have to read a book.

Originally Posted by GiTcHaSuM

I ordered the VTF-15H and can't wait for it to arrive...guess I'll have to read a book.

Originally Posted by manonfire

This is without eq.....as far as a more expanded scale i dont believe the sms is capable of that. Although i had it for a short while someone else with more experience with it may know how to do it.

Originally Posted by GiTcHaSuM

I ordered the VTF-15H and can't wait for it to arrive...guess I'll have to read a book.

Originally Posted by mlknez

While you wait, go out and buy those plastic sliders that you can put under the feet of something to make it easier to move around. You will want them while you are setting up and tweaking that behemoth. Make sure that you have a decent cable to plug into your receiver or pre/pro and a clean power source close to where you think your sub will eventually live.

Go to the gym and work out with weights to be prepared for the arrival. Listen to bass heavy music and video now to prepare yourself for the difference. Send out flyers to your neighbors advising them of the impending low frequency radiations that will be emanating from your home. You may also want to make sure that any glass or china pieces close to the sub location are secured well and that anything that can rattle is tightened.

That should keep you busy and prepared!

Originally Posted by Kevin12586

This should be placed on HSU's website to be read prior to all VTF-15H purchases

Originally Posted by mlknez

While you wait, go out and buy those plastic sliders that you can put under the feet of something to make it easier to move around. You will want them while you are setting up and tweaking that behemoth. Make sure that you have a decent cable to plug into your receiver or pre/pro and a clean power source close to where you think your sub will eventually live.

Go to the gym and work out with weights to be prepared for the arrival. Listen to bass heavy music and video now to prepare yourself for the difference. Send out flyers to your neighbors advising them of the impending low frequency radiations that will be emanating from your home. You may also want to make sure that any glass or china pieces close to the sub location are secured well and that anything that can rattle is tightened.

That should keep you busy and prepared!

Originally Posted by Kevin12586

This should be placed on HSU's website to be read prior to all VTF-15H purchases

Originally Posted by mlknez

While you wait, go out and buy those plastic sliders that you can put under the feet of something to make it easier to move around. You will want them while you are setting up and tweaking that behemoth. Make sure that you have a decent cable to plug into your receiver or pre/pro and a clean power source close to where you think your sub will eventually live.

Go to the gym and work out with weights to be prepared for the arrival. Listen to bass heavy music and video now to prepare yourself for the difference. Send out flyers to your neighbors advising them of the impending low frequency radiations that will be emanating from your home. You may also want to make sure that any glass or china pieces close to the sub location are secured well and that anything that can rattle is tightened.

That should keep you busy and prepared!

Originally Posted by mlknez

While you wait, go out and buy those plastic sliders that you can put under the feet of something to make it easier to move around. You will want them while you are setting up and tweaking that behemoth. Make sure that you have a decent cable to plug into your receiver or pre/pro and a clean power source close to where you think your sub will eventually live.

Go to the gym and work out with weights to be prepared for the arrival. Listen to bass heavy music and video now to prepare yourself for the difference. Send out flyers to your neighbors advising them of the impending low frequency radiations that will be emanating from your home. You may also want to make sure that any glass or china pieces close to the sub location are secured well and that anything that can rattle is tightened.

That should keep you busy and prepared!

Originally Posted by mlknez


While you wait, go out and buy those plastic sliders that you can put under the feet of something to make it easier to move around. You will want them while you are setting up and tweaking that behemoth. Make sure that you have a decent cable to plug into your receiver or pre/pro and a clean power source close to where you think your sub will eventually live.

Go to the gym and work out with weights to be prepared for the arrival. Listen to bass heavy music and video now to prepare yourself for the difference. Send out flyers to your neighbors advising them of the impending low frequency radiations that will be emanating from your home. You may also want to make sure that any glass or china pieces close to the sub location are secured well and that anything that can rattle is tightened.

That should keep you busy and prepared!

Originally Posted by swgod98

Quick question about the VTF-15H magnetic strength...at what distance from a VTF-15H is it safe to put drives (such as a PS3, iPod(?), Computer, etc)?

Originally Posted by dr_hsu

The cabinet is large enough so I would not worry about placing any of those close to the sub, from a magnetic point of view. However, I would not place any equipment with a running hard drive on top of the sub - the vibration may kill the drive! As long as it's not in physical contact, it should be fine.

Originally Posted by pronghorn/az

Is there a website that will allow me to draw my room with dimensions? I've seen posts with thumb nails and peoples layout but for the life of me can't find a link!

Jeff