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post #5551 of 6208
Welcome to the Hsu family!
post #5552 of 6208
I'm building a new home and will need to place subwoofers in two rooms. The first is a dedicated HT room about 2,900^3 and a multi-function Living Room almost 4,000^3. I'm looking at the ULS-15, the VTF-15H, and the VTF-3 MK4. I really like the ULS-15 because it's wireless and has a higher WAF... which is more important in the largest room, the Living Room. It's also pricier than the other models. I currenty have an STF-2, which I plan to use in a smaller room. It's been a great entry level sub, but I'm ready to move up in equipment. The dedicated HT Room and Living Room will be used primarily for movies and TV... and I don't listen at any where near reference levels. I'm more concerned with accuracy than vibrating my chest. smile.gif I have more experience with L/C/R speakers and consider myself a relative newbie when it comes to subs. I would appreciate any advice on my choices. Thanks!
post #5553 of 6208
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Originally Posted by Anhydro View Post

I'm building a new home and will need to place subwoofers in two rooms. The first is a dedicated HT room about 2,900^3 and a multi-function Living Room almost 4,000^3. I'm looking at the ULS-15, the VTF-15H, and the VTF-3 MK4. I really like the ULS-15 because it's wireless and has a higher WAF... which is more important in the largest room, the Living Room. It's also pricier than the other models. I currenty have an STF-2, which I plan to use in a smaller room. It's been a great entry level sub, but I'm ready to move up in equipment. The dedicated HT Room and Living Room will be used primarily for movies and TV... and I don't listen at any where near reference levels. I'm more concerned with accuracy than vibrating my chest. smile.gif I have more experience with L/C/R speakers and consider myself a relative newbie when it comes to subs. I would appreciate any advice on my choices. Thanks!

If youre still in the building process, why not wire for the new sub? Run your cables through the wall and install jacks in the floor or the wall close to the sub location? Wired > wireless.

Also, off topic, but if youre still building do yourself a favor and wire your ENTIRE house for CAT6.
post #5554 of 6208
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Originally Posted by blackangst View Post

If youre still in the building process, why not wire for the new sub? Run your cables through the wall and install jacks in the floor or the wall close to the sub location? Wired > wireless.
Also, off topic, but if youre still building do yourself a favor and wire your ENTIRE house for CAT6.

Already wiring for CAT6... bought 1000 feet from Monoprice. smile.gif As for the cable and the wall jacks, this becomes a bit difficult, because I'm not sure yet where the subs will be placed. I'm already pre-wiring for the L/C/R and the surrounds. I know where these will go.
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Originally Posted by Anhydro View Post

Already wiring for CAT6... bought 1000 feet from Monoprice. smile.gif As for the cable and the wall jacks, this becomes a bit difficult, because I'm not sure yet where the subs will be placed. I'm already pre-wiring for the L/C/R and the surrounds. I know where these will go.

Good man smile.gif
post #5556 of 6208
I'm really trying to get the most out of my VTF-2 MK4. Can someone tell me the best position for the sub based on the two diagrams? Also, when I have a movie on, and go to the bathroom that you see in the diagram, the bass sounds twice as deep in the bathroom. Why is that happening? I wish the bass was that deep in my listening area. By the way, the chair near the steps is the chair I sit in all the time. The chair is now further back and about 2 feet from that cube that's behind it in the diagram.






post #5557 of 6208
Just guessing, pic 1 or behind you may be best. Try sub crawling.
post #5558 of 6208
After a few months with my HSU VTF1 MK2, Im pleased to report it still impresses me every single time I watch a movie. Working from home today and watching Ironman 2 and Im still incredibly impressed. Hats off to Dr. Hsu for delivering fantastic products.


-Matt
post #5559 of 6208
Glad you like it. I think for the money, Hsu offers excellent results and support.
post #5560 of 6208
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Originally Posted by mgproudfit View Post

After a few months with my HSU VTF1 MK2, Im pleased to report it still impresses me every single time I watch a movie. Working from home today and watching Ironman 2 and Im still incredibly impressed. Hats off to Dr. Hsu for delivering fantastic products.
-Matt

You are most welcome! Glad you liked it so much.
post #5561 of 6208
god I have wanted to get a ULS-15 for so long......... I seem to always run into one thing or another that always prevents me from getting a sub like this.........ACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry just ranting
post #5562 of 6208
^^^ If you ever get a chance to pick 1 or 2 up go for it!! I've had one for a little bit and just cant say enough good things about it now going for 2 ^^^
post #5563 of 6208
I followed these instructions when I ran Audyssey: "Set the VTF-2 MK4 to one port open, EQ1, Q=0.7, volume at 9 o'clock. After auto EQ, set the sub to two ports open, EQ2, and Q=0.3".

There are more settings on the back of the sub, so what should they be set to? Can the sub sound even better if those settings are changed?
post #5564 of 6208
I own the VTF3 MK4 and I had mine with two ports open and now sealed. Any setting will sound nice from more to less headroom. It is preference and what (if married) the wife allows. LOL!
post #5565 of 6208
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Originally Posted by biglen View Post

I followed these instructions when I ran Audyssey: "Set the VTF-2 MK4 to one port open, EQ1, Q=0.7, volume at 9 o'clock. After auto EQ, set the sub to two ports open, EQ2, and Q=0.3".
There are more settings on the back of the sub, so what should they be set to? Can the sub sound even better if those settings are changed?

Changing the level in the AVR +3.0db is usually what I do to make the sub channel a little hot.
post #5566 of 6208
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Changing the level in the AVR +3.0db is usually what I do to make the sub channel a little hot.

Audyssey set my sub at +2.5dB. Are you saying I should add 3dB which would make my setting +5.5dB? When you say it makes the sub channel a little hot, what exactly does that mean, and is there risk involved?
post #5567 of 6208
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Changing the level in the AVR +3.0db is usually what I do to make the sub channel a little hot.

Audyssey set my sub at +2.5dB. Are you saying I should add 3dB which would make my setting +5.5dB? When you say it makes the sub channel a little hot, what exactly does that mean, and is there risk involved?

Basically it means setting the sub output level higher than the calibrated level. Any risk would come in at how loud you play things and the quality of your sub. If you're not one to try to raise the roof then you should be ok.

Since you've run Audyssey you don't want to adjust anything other than the operating mode (EQ1/EQ2 in conjunction with the port configuration) and the Q. I have the VTF-15H. After Audyssey the only change I made was the Q from .7 to .5.

If you haven't read Variable Tuning on page 5 in the manual already do that and get a good idea of what the different operating modes do. Then later after you've gotten used to the current settings try some of those and see if you like the change. I went with number 2 Ported Max Extension Mode because that was what I was looking for in my sub.
post #5568 of 6208
Ive generally never been happy with where the sub was set and felt it needed more.
post #5569 of 6208
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Ive generally never been happy with where the sub was set and felt it needed more.

I actually had the same problem were I felt it was not enough at 9 o'clock so what I did was set the gain closer to 10 o'clock and Audyssey set it at 0. Now it is perfect. When I had the gain at 9 o'clock even if I changed the sub level on the receiver to + 3 as an example it did not give me the punch I needed.
post #5570 of 6208
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Ive generally never been happy with where the sub was set and felt it needed more.

I actually had the same problem were I felt it was not enough at 9 o'clock so what I did was set the gain closer to 10 o'clock and Audyssey set it at 0. Now it is perfect. When I had the gain at 9 o'clock even if I changed the sub level on the receiver to + 3 as an example it did not give me the punch I needed.

Good bass can be addicting. That's probably why a number of people like to run their subs hot. I've thought about it at times, but this is the first time that I not only have good bass, but a pretty flat curve and I am really enjoying it too!

Between Audyssey in my Denon, my SMS-1 and an mostly due to an outstanding sub (VTF-15H) I'm hearing bass that I haven't heard before and hearing parts of my house that I haven't heard before. tongue.gif

post #5571 of 6208
I hope to get my system calibrated by a pro.
post #5572 of 6208
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

I hope to get my system calibrated by a pro.
A pro can get you a flat frequency response at your listening position, but, unless that is what you really prefer, he can't get it to where you like it best. You have to do some tinkering with the EQ to get what sounds best to you. Personally I like my bass hot.
post #5573 of 6208
I'm comparing the ULS-15 and the VTF-15H. What's the importance in having a continuous watt rating (the VTF-15H has a 350 watt continuous, while the ULS-15 has only a short term rating)? My AVR would have 150 watts per channel, which I assume would be continous... but would like some help in understanding this correctly. Thanks!
post #5574 of 6208
Short-term and peak power don't mean a whole lot since they can be measured in different ways. Even "continuous" can mean something different than RMS power. If I were you I wouldn't worry very much about comparing power ratings across different subwoofer types and especially across different manufacturers. For instance the VTF15h sub will get louder than a ULS but a ULS has a more powerful amplifier, so the amplifier power spec isn't going to tell you which sub is more powerful overall. BTW, I think the continuous RMS power of the ULS is somewhere between 500 to 600 watts but Hsu has not ever said what it is exactly.
post #5575 of 6208
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

Short-term and peak power don't mean a whole lot since they can be measured in different ways. Even "continuous" can mean something different than RMS power. If I were you I wouldn't worry very much about comparing power ratings across different subwoofer types and especially across different manufacturers. For instance the VTF15h sub will get louder than a ULS but a ULS has a more powerful amplifier, so the amplifier power spec isn't going to tell you which sub is more powerful overall. BTW, I think the continuous RMS power of the ULS is somewhere between 500 to 600 watts but Hsu has not ever said what it is exactly.

I wonder if the VTF15H 350w RMS is almost as good as the 1kw of PB13U since factoring in the bigger driver?
post #5576 of 6208
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Originally Posted by Hifi4Hobby View Post

I wonder if the VTF15H 350w RMS is almost as good as the 1kw of PB13U since factoring in the bigger driver?

I don't think the VTF15h is quite that powerful, however for the price of one PB13U you could get two VTF15h subs, and that would certainly hold advantages over the PB13U.
post #5577 of 6208
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

I don't think the VTF15h is quite that powerful, however for the price of one PB13U you could get two VTF15h subs, and that would certainly hold advantages over the PB13U.

Yup, that's what i am looking for. If a VTF15H is 0.6 as good as PB13U, 2 x VTF15H would give 0.6 x 2 x 1.3 (1.3 being 3db better due to dual driver efficiency), that's 1.56 times better than 1 x PB13U at similar price. So with quad of VTF15H, it's 0.6 x 4 x 1.3 x 1.3 = 4.056 where as PB13U x 2 would be 1 x 2 x 1.3 = 2.6 only.

Though the above mathematics doesnt have any ground but it's a mere gauge i am looking at if the VTF15H x 2 would be better than a single PB13U in output and depth as well.
post #5578 of 6208
Does HSU ever run sales? Can we expect any type of Black Friday or holiday pricing? I am in the market for a VTF-2 or VTF-3.
post #5579 of 6208
The VTF-3 MK4 (satin black) is currently on-sale.
post #5580 of 6208
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

The VTF-3 MK4 (satin black) is currently on-sale.

I own the VTF3 MK4 and it is AMAZING!!!!!!!
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