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post #5941 of 6210
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

- Yes the speakers are on, I'm playing the audio CD normally from my PS3, I think only the Subwoofer and Fronts are working without the surrounds since this isn't a multi channel disc. All of the speakers are set to small and LFE is set to come from the Subwoofer only without fronts.
- Yes the raw numbers are less, I added the corrections for the final dB value, e.g added +5 for the 25Hz reading and +1.5 to the 80Hz reading.

I re-measured, this time around I'll mention the fluctuation range for each frequency:

80Hz = 82.5 - 85.5
63Hz = 85.5 - 86.5
50Hz = 89.5 - 92.5
40Hz = 91.5 - 92.5
31.5Hz = 81 - 83
25Hz = 75 - 78

100Hz = 93 - 95
125Hz = 91.5 - 92.5
160Hz = 96.5
200Hz = 89.5 - 90.5
250Hz = 90.5 < there was a weird static like sound in this, didn't keep it much on fearing it'll cause damage to the speakers


When switching the phase switch only to check the 80Hz frequency as you requested, I barely noticed any difference, it gave a sound level of around 82.5-84.5, the Normal phase seemed a tiny bit louder.

I'm assuming the speakers are only working for anything above 80Hz due to the crossover, is there any reason to try this with the speakers disconnected considering how the Subwoofer is in charge of the lower frequencies? Not sure if this info is useful, but my front speakers are around 1.5 feet away from the back wall and I'm using a half plug (not a complete full plug) in the speaker's woofer ports so the bass would be less "boomy".

So, is this a decent result for a completely non-treated room or should I look for better spots? Those low frequencies test tones sure make my ears hurt with the all the pressure lol

I live in an apartment at the moment, I honestly can't wait to move someday to my own home so I can have a dedicated fully treated home theater room.
Bump in-case Dr. Hsu missed my post
post #5942 of 6210
Hey guys, I posted this over in the Pioneer 1222K forum, but this may be the more appropriate place for the question:

I've got a Pioneer 1222K which uses MCACC for speaker calibration. Upon doing research, it appears the MCACC does not account for the sub in the equalizer/volume setting. Which I'm confused by because it does recognize the sub during the setup. Can anyone with a Pioneer sub (or knowledge of the speaker calibration software) comment on question below:

Should I set the crossover setting to "Inside" since the AVR does not account for the subwoofer? Right now I have it as ouside since I thought the AVR would make the correct settings.
post #5943 of 6210
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Originally Posted by SyracuseOrange View Post

Hey guys, I posted this over in the Pioneer 1222K forum, but this may be the more appropriate place for the question:

I've got a Pioneer 1222K which uses MCACC for speaker calibration. Upon doing research, it appears the MCACC does not account for the sub in the equalizer/volume setting. Which I'm confused by because it does recognize the sub during the setup. Can anyone with a Pioneer sub (or knowledge of the speaker calibration software) comment on question below:

Should I set the crossover setting to "Inside" since the AVR does not account for the subwoofer? Right now I have it as ouside since I thought the AVR would make the correct settings.

I'm not following your question. Inside/outside?
post #5944 of 6210
Does anyone know of any deals or at least free shipping for the HSU VTF2-MK4 currently?
post #5945 of 6210
Quote:
Originally Posted by SyracuseOrange View Post

Hey guys, I posted this over in the Pioneer 1222K forum, but this may be the more appropriate place for the question:

I've got a Pioneer 1222K which uses MCACC for speaker calibration. Upon doing research, it appears the MCACC does not account for the sub in the equalizer/volume setting. Which I'm confused by because it does recognize the sub during the setup. Can anyone with a Pioneer sub (or knowledge of the speaker calibration software) comment on question below:

Should I set the crossover setting to "Inside" since the AVR does not account for the subwoofer? Right now I have it as ouside since I thought the AVR would make the correct settings.

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Originally Posted by sputter1 View Post

I'm not following your question. Inside/outside?

I believe I got my answer in the other thread but. on the VTF2-MK4 there is a switch marked "Inside" and "Outside", which determines which equipment sets the crossover for the subwoofer, Inside for the subwoofer, or Outside for the receiver which bypasses the crossover setting dialed in on the subwoofer. I initially had it set to Outside bc I assumed the receiver was setting the correct crossover but I then after some research I thought the reciever was not doing that because of the limitation of the MCACC for not dealing with the sub equalizer.

However I was told that the MCACC has nothing to do with the crossover setting and that I should leave it as Outside to what is set on the receiver.
post #5946 of 6210
You mean crossover in/out switch on the sub! You should set the switch to 'out' when using the bass management in your receiver.
post #5947 of 6210
I have a question is it possible to remove the pointy feet on the STF-1 Subwoofer?
post #5948 of 6210
You mean the spiked feet? If you want to lay the sub on it's side, you can remove them but have to make sure you seal the screw holes so you don't get air leaks. If you have the sub in the normal orientation, you need to keep 2" spacing between the woofer and the floor. If you are worried about scratching your floor, put a throw rug between the sub and the floor or put some rubber cups or felt pads under the feet.
post #5949 of 6210
What is this popping up on my speaker foam? this speaker is a HB 1 mk2 only about 2 years old and never played really loud. i try'd to take a decent photo with my camera to me it looks like a wire is loose inside?. I hope you can see it in the photo. Every thing sounds great. theres a tiny crease on the black foam .
post #5950 of 6210
If there isn't anything wrong with the sound, than it is fine. Creases can happen in the surrounds with even a small amount of tension over time. I wouldn't worry about it unless something is affecting the sound.
post #5951 of 6210

phew, thanks @shadyJ i was worried because i can't afford another speaker.  I guess i'll keep using that speaker :)

post #5952 of 6210
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Originally Posted by PcGeek626 View Post

phew, thanks @shadyJ i was worried because i can't afford another speaker.  I guess i'll keep using that speaker smile.gif

Hi PcGeek626. ShadyJ is correct. The crease on the speaker surround shouldn't affect the performance of the unit.


Sincerely,
Kevin
The Hsu Research Team
post #5953 of 6210

Thanks HsuKevin.

post #5954 of 6210
Hey guys, I've recently gotten a VTF2-MK4 (maybe two or three months ago) and have really enjoyed it so far. It has been sounding great for movies. However I've recently noticed that some music and concert dvds, the subwoofer sounds like it is bottoming out. This is my first subwoofer so I'm not sure if this is what's happening, but it's kindof like a thud sound on every beat. I haven't noticed this all the time, but I was listening to John Mayer's Born and Raised album and this was occuring. And then I noticed it again when watching the Tribute to George Harrison concert blu ray.

I believe both times I had both ports plugged, on Q .3 and EQ 1, I switched to EQ 2 have throug the concert blu ray to see if that would help. I was listening to it somewhat loudly but not REAL loud.

I have it connected to a Pioneer 1222K and I've used the MCACC Auto setup ( though using stereo for the John Mayer album)
Ascend Sierra 1s LCR, set to Small, crossover at 80 Hz. Crossover on the subwoofer set to "Outside"


Any thoughts?
post #5955 of 6210
The subwoofer has the least headroom in the sealed mode. I would suggest switching to the ported modes to see if that improves. What are the volume setting on the sub? Sub out level on the receiver? Master volume on the receiver? Crossover on the sub set to in our out? If set to in, what is the set crossover frequency?
post #5956 of 6210
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Originally Posted by dr_hsu View Post

The subwoofer has the least headroom in the sealed mode. I would suggest switching to the ported modes to see if that improves. What are the volume setting on the sub? Sub out level on the receiver? Master volume on the receiver? Crossover on the sub set to in our out? If set to in, what is the set crossover frequency?

Sorry for delay, I've been away from the computer. I will check tonight and also try the cd on another system to see if that's just how the bass audio is on that album.

I know that I do have the sub level at 9 oclock. I have the master volume on the receiver anywhere from -30 to -15. -15 is quite loud. The crossover is set to out on the sub and is crossed over at 80Hz on the receiver with the LR main speakers set to small. I believe the sub out level on the receiver is around -2. I will report back when trying out with one port open and also trying the album on my micro Denon system.
post #5957 of 6210
I think all is good. Using 1 port open helped. I was watching Crank 2 last night and the explosions in that movie sounded awesome (woke me up and was terrified for about 5 seconds smile.gif ) , so I think all is well with the subwoofer.

I think the John Mayer album has the THud kind of drum beat on a couple of the tracks I was listening to.
post #5958 of 6210
If anyone is looking to buy a HSU 2.1 Value 1 set please PM me.
post #5959 of 6210
Hey guys just throwing this out there. We have a great opportunity to have Josh Ricci do a thorough review of the Hsu VTF-15H and I will be going to the UPS store tomorrow to get a shipping quote to have one of my subs delivered to him and back to me. I also have another AVS member willing to help out with cost so I am looking for anyone else that would be willing to help with cost no matter how much or little this project will take. If there are any Hsu owners as curious as I am and have followed the whole Audioholics debacle and would like to see, the man, Josh Ricci have a chance at this and finally make an apples to apples review with many of the other top subs he has reviewed please send me a PM and once I have a final cost we will take this to PMs where I will provide a copy of the shipping costs, what you and other members helped with and current events on the test itself. Thanks!
post #5960 of 6210
I'm just moved into my house- one of the cone legs was off the subwoofer (VTF-2), and it looks the threaded insert got punched into the sub.... what's the easiest way to get inside the sub? Should I pull the woofer cone? Amp panel?
post #5961 of 6210
Fixed it- took amp panel off. Threaded insert was laying in the bottom.
post #5962 of 6210
Glad you got it fixed!
post #5963 of 6210
Bump.
post #5964 of 6210
Will a VTF2-MK4 be good enough for a 15 x 15 x 10 room?
post #5965 of 6210
With care taken in it's placement, yes, I think so. It won't give you obscene amounts of bass, but I think it could give some nice bass support to any movie scene or music.
post #5966 of 6210
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

With care taken in it's placement, yes, I think so. It won't give you obscene amounts of bass, but I think it could give some nice bass support to any movie scene or music.

Thanks! Getting my VTF2-MK4 on Monday.
post #5967 of 6210
I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Like I said, take care in its placement and setup, try different settings, and you'll be rewarded with a great bass sound.
post #5968 of 6210
Err.. sorry I actually didnt give you the correct measurements.

Its actually 13 x 13 x 10 room. Do you think a VTF1-Mk2 will do?

If i get the VTF1-Mk2 instead then I can get a complete 5.1 Hsu system. If not, gotta wait until next month to get a HC-1.
Edited by Brian323 - 6/30/13 at 2:09am
post #5969 of 6210
I would go for the VTF2 at the very least, I think it would be considerably more powerful, and not much more expensive, and so a better value.
post #5970 of 6210
VTF-2 MK4 it is. Thanks for your help.
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