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When are the 2007 Sony SXRD TV's coming out?

post #1 of 1017
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I've had my eye on Sony's SXRD tv's for quite a while and have been holding off on getting one for 2 reasons:

-I want them to fix that darn "Green Blob" issue I keep hearing about.
-I want one that has HDMI 1.3


I didn't hear any news about the 2007 models during CES. Does anybody know when the 2007 models are coming out? Will they use laser light engines? Will they have HDMI 1.3?
post #2 of 1017
Sony recently put the A2020 series on their site, for shipment mid-March. On their web page, the specifications are identical, but it's entirely possible there are some changes "under the hood." These may or may not incorporate HDMI 1.3.

If you want their true "next generation" SXRD, you'll have to wait until July/August for the XBR3. Sony will issue some preliminary details on these models later in the week, with further details in May.
post #3 of 1017
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Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post

I've had my eye on Sony's SXRD tv's for quite a while and have been holding off on getting one for 2 reasons:

-I want them to fix that darn "Green Blob" issue I keep hearing about.
-I want one that has HDMI 1.3


I didn't hear any news about the 2007 models during CES. Does anybody know when the 2007 models are coming out? Will they use laser light engines? Will they have HDMI 1.3?

What "green blob" issue?
The XBR2's and A2000's have no such issue!!!!!!!!!
post #4 of 1017
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Originally Posted by dm145 View Post

What "green blob" issue?
The XBR2's and A2000's have no such issue!!!!!!!!!



Ahaha, I know I'm a newbie on this forum but even my sarcasm detectors caught that one.
post #5 of 1017
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Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post

Ahaha, I know I'm a newbie on this forum but even my sarcasm detectors caught that one.

Sorry, it wasn't meant to be sarcastic. Many people tend to throw that term around. The original green blob was seen with the xbr1 not the new models.
post #6 of 1017
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Sorry, it wasn't meant to be sarcastic. Many people tend to throw that term around. The original green blob was seen with the xbr1 not the new models.


Really? I read that there was a class-action lawsuit filed by A2000 owners over the whole "green blob" issue. I haven't heard about it on the XBR2's, but it seems that everyone is talking about the issue being *very* prevalent on the A2000's.....
post #7 of 1017
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Originally Posted by dm145 View Post

What "green blob" issue?
The XBR2's and A2000's have no such issue!!!!!!!!!

WRONG! I certainly have tint issues with my A-2000 as do others on the forum. Where did you come up with the idea that A-2000 is problem free? I am awaiting a new optical block at the moment to hopefully fix blue, and magenta tints in black, and green and magenta tints on grey screen. I cannot vouch for whether or not the XBR2 is free of these issues.
post #8 of 1017
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

WRONG! I certainly have tint issues with my A-2000 as do others on the forum. Where did you come up with the idea that A-2000 is problem free? I am awaiting a new optical block at the moment to hopefully fix blue, and magenta tints in black, and green and magenta tints on grey screen. I cannot vouch for whether or not the XBR2 is free of these issues.

Maybe tint issues but not GREEN BLOB. Read my posts.
post #9 of 1017
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Originally Posted by dm145 View Post

Maybe tint issues but not GREEN BLOB. Read my posts.




Here's a link to the class-action lawsuit A2000 owners are filing against Sony for the green blob / green haze issue.


http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2006/...-sxrd-problem/
post #10 of 1017
Someone thinks there is a problem with the green blob on the A2000.
post #11 of 1017
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Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post

Here's a link to the class-action lawsuit A2000 owners are filing against Sony for the green blob / green haze issue.


http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2006/...-sxrd-problem/


The law suit is for xbr1 not A2000! Show me the suit that lists the A2000?

http://www.sonysxrdtvclassaction.com/main/home.sfx

For all we know that blog site was setup by the same trolls readily found here!
post #12 of 1017
I've been following the XBR2 owners thread and the tweeks thread from inception and haven't seen any indication of the green blob.
post #13 of 1017
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Originally Posted by dm145 View Post

The law suit is for xbr1 not A2000! Show me the suit that lists the A2000?

http://www.sonysxrdtvclassaction.com/main/home.sfx

For all we know that blog site was setup by the same trolls readily found here!


You actually think someone went through the trouble to set up a blog to FOOL people into thinking there is a problem on a certain tv model?

There are TONS of sites out there discussing the green blob problem on the A2000's! Heck there are tons of threads on AVS that talk about it.


If even 1% of that is true, why the heck would I buy an A2000 with that kind of risk?



I don't know what kind of agenda you're on, but please don't hijack my thread with your nonsense. This thread was originally supposed to be about the upcoming 2007 SXRD models.
post #14 of 1017
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I don't know what kind of agenda you're on, but please don't hijack my thread with your nonsense. This thread was originally supposed to be about the upcoming 2007 SXRD models.

I think you're being unfair. No one owns a thread, they wander off in whatever direction they will. It's not him who has an agenda. There have been one or more blatant lying trolls trying to trash all Sony LCoS models, and he's trying to set the record straight.

I don't own a Sony HDTV but I do value truth and I think he's right.
post #15 of 1017
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Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post

You actually think someone went through the trouble to set up a blog to FOOL people into thinking there is a problem on a certain tv model?

There are TONS of sites out there discussing the green blob problem on the A2000's! Heck there are tons of threads on AVS that talk about it.


If even 1% of that is true, why the heck would I buy an A2000 with that kind of risk?



I don't know what kind of agenda you're on, but please don't hijack my thread with your nonsense. This thread was originally supposed to be about the upcoming 2007 SXRD models.

Your an idiot! Your the troll thats getting off track and cant even see in your own link that clearly says the xbr1 models are the one with the blob problem, not the current ones as none have been validated like the others.
post #16 of 1017
Anyone that thinks that all green and purple tint abnormalities have been totally eliminated from all SXRD sets is crazy.

They are far less prevalent now than in the past but they do still exist in different degrees among different sets of the same models.

Some have it worse than others and some don't have it.

Anyone who claims to know the exact number and extent of such tint abnormalities in terms of prevalence and extent is lying.

Perfection has not yet been achieved. How much that bothers each person and how willing they are to either live with imperfection OR take a chance that they'll be lucky enough to purchase an SXRD set that is perfect is a question that each consumer has to make--the answers to that question will vary.
post #17 of 1017
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Originally Posted by killakaipo View Post

Your an idiot! Your the troll thats getting off track and cant even see in your own link that clearly says the xbr1 models are the one with the blob problem, not the current ones as none have been validated like the others.


The link I provided clearly says at the top that the lawsuit includes owners of A2000 models. I haven't been on this forum long, but it sounds like this topic has come up for discussion before. I have no idea why there would be "sides" to this issue. Either the problem exists or it doesn't. It's not like any of us own stock in Sony or their competitors.
post #18 of 1017
I don't know about a 'green blob' issue because I don't own one of these sets (I've been looking to upgrade my Sony 3lcd rear-pro for a while now and this is definitely a candidate).

But to answer the question originally posted, the new SXRD's are available for pre-order over at sonystyle with a release date of March 15 posted. They look exactly like the '06 models except that they're mostly black instead of silver/grey/black with the teal strip in the middle. Now that strip is silver and the rest of the t.v. is black (at least it appears so), even the back.

Hopefully that answers the question and hopefully this years line isn't smeared with 'green blob' issues or other such problems, true or false, because I would definitely like to buy a television with confidence at some point in my life and not just the hopeful but hesitant feeling that I've felt in years past. One can hope at least!
post #19 of 1017
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Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post

You actually think someone went through the trouble to set up a blog to FOOL people into thinking there is a problem on a certain tv model?

There are TONS of sites out there discussing the green blob problem on the A2000's! Heck there are tons of threads on AVS that talk about it.


If even 1% of that is true, why the heck would I buy an A2000 with that kind of risk?

I don't know what kind of agenda you're on, but please don't hijack my thread with your nonsense. This thread was originally supposed to be about the upcoming 2007 SXRD models.

There is a class action lawsuit being filed, but it is for owners of the XBR1, not the A2000. I have an A2000 with color uniformity issues, so I can assure everyone that the green blob has not been completely eliminated. Based on reports, however, it seems to be less prevalent than with the XBR1.
post #20 of 1017
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Thanks guys. So we don't have confirmation on how prevalant the "green blob" issue is on the A2000's, but it sounds like a refresh model is on the way already.

I think I'm gonna hold off for the new models later in August. I'm really hoping the new ones have HDMI 1.3 and are the "slim SXRD's" with the laser light engine. Hopefully that redesign will get rid of the whole optical block/green blob issue once and for all. Although for all we know the new stuff will have its own set of problems.

Man, what has happened to Sony over the years? Their stuff used to be so great. I currently own a Sony 36 inch XBR WEGA CRT, and I love it. I'll probably still keep that tv around after I buy my HDTV if I can find room for it....
post #21 of 1017
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Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post

Thanks guys. So we don't have confirmation on how prevalant the "green blob" issue is on the A2000's, but it sounds like a refresh model is on the way already.

I think I'm gonna hold off for the new models later in August. I'm really hoping the new ones have HDMI 1.3 and are the "slim SXRD's" with the laser light engine. Hopefully that redesign will get rid of the whole optical block/green blob issue once and for all. Although for all we know the new stuff will have its own set of problems.

Man, what has happened to Sony over the years? Their stuff used to be so great. I currently own a Sony 36 inch XBR WEGA CRT, and I love it. I'll probably still keep that tv around after I buy my HDTV if I can find room for it....

By "refresh model" are you referring to the upcoming A2020? If so, I think you'll find that the only sure difference is the cabinet color, we don't know if it will include a better OB than the A2000. Given that the A2000 has been available for about 9 months you would think Sony would have improved the OB by now for this newer model, just like they apparently did for the XBR2.
post #22 of 1017
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Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post

I've had my eye on Sony's SXRD tv's for quite a while and have been holding off on getting one for 2 reasons:

-I want them to fix that darn "Green Blob" issue I keep hearing about.
-I want one that has HDMI 1.3


I didn't hear any news about the 2007 models during CES. Does anybody know when the 2007 models are coming out? Will they use laser light engines? Will they have HDMI 1.3?

From what I've read, the laser light engines are not likely to hit the streets this year as they are still at the prototype level.

I am also hoping the green blob issue is solved as this (and a weak bank account) is what is keeping me from buying one of the SXRDs. I do like the picture the best for RPs so I'm really hoping this becomes a non-issue.

The A2020 doesn't sound like much of an upgrade over the A2000. What are the improvements of the XBR3 over the XBR2?
post #23 of 1017
i cant believe I'm reading a thread about next generation sets. i promised myself after following all the XBR1 , a2000 and xbr2 threads from inception and finally deciding on and purchasing the xbr2 that i would not follow a thread about a new model. but i just cant help myself. i think I'm addicted. my wife will kill me if i decide i want a different TV.
post #24 of 1017
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Originally Posted by WaldorfSalad View Post

By "refresh model" are you referring to the upcoming A2020? If so, I think you'll find that the only sure difference is the cabinet color, we don't know if it will include a better OB than the A2000. Given that the A2000 has been available for about 9 months you would think Sony would have improved the OB by now for this newer model, just like they apparently did for the XBR2.


Yeah, I just went on the Sonystyle website and they have the new A2020 model on the tv front page. But in looking at the spec's, I can't tell if there were any upgrades done. The spec's don't mention which version of HDMI is utilized.


My hunch is that this new A2020 model was released precisely to fix the whole green blob /optical block issue. Why else would you release a new model with no other discernable improvements? Why release a new model with just a different cosmetic trim?

Here's the link to the new A2020:

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...SKU=KDS60A2020
post #25 of 1017
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Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post

Yeah, I just went on the Sonystyle website and they have the new A2020 model on the tv front page. But in looking at the spec's, I can't tell if there were any upgrades done. The spec's don't mention which version of HDMI is utilized.


My hunch is that this new A2020 model was released precisely to fix the whole green blob /optical block issue. Why else would you release a new model with no other discernable improvements? Why release a new model with just a different cosmetic trim?

Here's the link to the new A2020:

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...SKU=KDS60A2020

A cosmetic only difference is not unknown. After all, Sony have released the KDLxxXBR2 and KDLxxXBR3 LCD TVs and the only difference between them is the bezel (and remote) color (with the Black carrying a $300 price premium). So it may be that Sony, after seeing where the competition such as Samsung, Mitsubishi and JVC are going with Black TVs that they also need to offer a Black cabinet to be competitive. We may even discover soon that this year's XBR3 SXRDs will be Black.
post #26 of 1017
Look at the S2000 LCD's that came out earlier this year. Now its the S2010 which is the same tv just in black. I can see why they would change the current models do not look good
post #27 of 1017
First post, plz be gentle. I'm getting a KDS-55A2020 this summer. I WAS getting the A2000, but I love the black cabinet. I'm optimistic that they have at least tweaked the new models for the green blob issue. Anyhow, I've read more good than bad reviews on the A2000's, I'm taking the plunge.
post #28 of 1017
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Originally Posted by Hanzo View Post

The link I provided clearly says at the top that the lawsuit includes owners of A2000 models. I haven't been on this forum long, but it sounds like this topic has come up for discussion before. I have no idea why there would be "sides" to this issue. Either the problem exists or it doesn't. It's not like any of us own stock in Sony or their competitors.

You are not reading the actual lawsuit. Keep clicking the links and you will get to the class action suit. It is for $5,000,000.00 and it is only for the XBR1's. Sure some people have problems with the other SXRD tv's. Just like there are a few problems with any other set manufactured. There is no tv on the market that has 100% quality control and a 100% perfect product all of the time and there never will be.
post #29 of 1017
Is this really necessary? You are posting the same stuff in several threads. If you don't like Sony, that's fine. But these posts are annoying. Could you add anything helpful?

Thanks
post #30 of 1017
Almost sounds like he is soliciting those users that are having aproblem to stand up and become a part of a class action lawsuit. AS*****. If Sony is neglible, thats one thing, but for ignorant basterds like this poster, all he can do is recommended that people try the Mits out. So since this is a Sony thread, go back under that rock where you came from. I actually think the Mits stinks!

We all know Sony, we know there may be inheritant problems with their current designs. Thats why we are hoping for new models that will address issues. But we don't need this smack talk... If you don't like what our thread is about, take
you crap and postings and go another forum.. TROLL!!
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