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post #121 of 3362
Ron:

Sounds great. I will check out the forum and the shootout. Thanks again.
post #122 of 3362
G-star, I want to thank you for all your help as well. You guys have been great!!! Of course I will look at the shootout on the bookshelf speakers, but as it stands now, I am looking at the following setup:

Yamaha 661 receiver

x series front speakers (probably the EX)

Bic H100 sub OR SVS PB10NSD sub, just depends on how much I want to spend

Oppo DVD, probably the 981. I know the 970 would probably work just as well, but I may be upgrading my TV to 50+ LCD or Plasma in the next year

One last thing...this will obviously be a 2.1 system, to start at least, is there any reason to have a center channel? I don't know if that offers anything extra in a 2.1 channel system, but if it does, I would like to know what.

I would also like other peoples feedback on this setup....I think I got excellent advice, but if someone has a different opinion for one reason or another, please let me know.

Thanks again G-star and Ron
post #123 of 3362
Hey again:

I am looking at pricing. I found the Yamaha 661 for $399.99 at etronics. Other places have it at $499 or $549. I have heard you need to go to an authorized Yamaha dealer, or your warranty will be void. Is this correct? If so, does anyone know if etronics (web page) is authorized?
post #124 of 3362
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

They will work very well as fronts...surrounds later.

Sorry, I was thinking you were talking about the R300s...the R150s are $50/pr on sale.


Actually, just made an order for 2 R300s, going to get the R150s as well!

Now I just need a way of getting a good center for on the cheap.

Thanks again!
post #125 of 3362
Oh and just wondering, I can't seem to find it on Outpost, but they do ship UPS right and now USPS? Thanks!


Found out they use DHL after calling. Still very excited about these new speakers! Hopefully will see a huge improvement over the Onkyo HTIB speakers.
post #126 of 3362
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Originally Posted by studdad View Post

Hey again:

I am looking at pricing. I found the Yamaha 661 for $399.99 at etronics. Other places have it at $499 or $549. I have heard you need to go to an authorized Yamaha dealer, or your warranty will be void. Is this correct? If so, does anyone know if etronics (web page) is authorized?

Etronics is not an authorized Yamaha dealer and you do need to purcase from and anuthorized dealer or Yamaha will not honor the waranty.

Some non authorized retailers offer their own waranty, be careful if you go this route and get all the details. I've found with alot of them they don't start until the manuf waranty has expired, even though it's not valid.

Here is a list of Yammy authorized dealers, scroll to the bottom.

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/customer/d...x?CTID=5010030
post #127 of 3362
This thread is a great idea, though honestly you have to update the OP over time for it to really work well.

Also, to me there's some huge gaps in the discussion around how people are going to use the system. Maybe you're assuming that since we're talking about HT, people are going to use it mostly or exclusively for HT (and games or similar stuff). And from people's posts, that may well be the case.

But to me there ought to be a big footnote that says, if you're going to listen to music as much or more - you have to take that into account for what you buy.

Ideally people might comment on which systems might be better for HT, music, or a mix. Eg from what I've heard and read, the Velodyne Front Rows are a good bet for HT, a bit less so for music.

And maybe nobody who comes here fits in this category - but If you listen to music mostly, you might do better spending your speaker budget on 2-3 speakers, depending on whether you listen to enough HT to want a center. Hook up two really cheap speakers in the back if you want to. Or not - not that much comes out of the surrounds, anyway.

Whether you get a sub depends on the speakers, your budget and your tastes.

Finally, it's worth mentioning used speakers. If the reason you're considering HTIB is to save budget, not time - you can find some amazing speakers used for not a lot of money. It does take time, but if that's the kind of thing you enjoy doing you can learn a lot, and end up with better speakers than all your friends, probably, too. If you have enough space, you can buy killer used floorstanders for not a lot of money on craigslist, etc, these days as people replace them with smaller speakers. And if you're willing to spend the time, and enjoy looking, you can find great bookshelves, too. I've seen older high quality speakers for $100-200 a pair.
post #128 of 3362
Jakeman, thanks for the info. I guess $499 is the best buy
post #129 of 3362
Buzzy,

My projected system is listed above. I know very little about all this, but with the help here, I feel confident I will be getting a good bang for the buck. Let me ask you though (again, knowing very little) would a center speaker for a 2.1 system do me any good, or should I wait until I upgrade to 5.1,,,,,if I ever do. My interest is primarily HT (about 95% of the time) over music.

Thanks
post #130 of 3362
A timbre matched center is important for HT as it nails the dialog to the screen with a large sweetspot. A large percentage of the front soundstage content comes out of the center from Dolby Digital and DTS sources (movies). So it's something to consider. If you have no center, the content is directed to the 2 front speakers, which, depending on placement will lock the dialog in and around the sweeptspot, but might be a bit diffuse in off axis seating positions. If you can swing a 3.1 go for it.
post #131 of 3362
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Originally Posted by studdad View Post

Hey again:

I am looking at pricing. I found the Yamaha 661 for $399.99 at etronics. Other places have it at $499 or $549. I have heard you need to go to an authorized Yamaha dealer, or your warranty will be void. Is this correct? If so, does anyone know if etronics (web page) is authorized?

I misread your post. Sorry.
post #132 of 3362
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Originally Posted by flags View Post

I would seriously consider the HT-S790. It has a better rating.

Again wrong
post #133 of 3362
My question got lost in flag's trumpeting of the s790 (does he work for them???)

Can anyone recommend a good starter system for around 500, something with a good tuner(?) that I can upgrade to better speakers later, but something I could still enjoy now?
post #134 of 3362
Ron:

considering i go with the the speakers you suggested (probably the EX's), what would be a good center match?
post #135 of 3362
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Originally Posted by dchanman01 View Post

You need to calm down cause I ain't upset at all over your thread so leave out the dirty words. I do honestly feel your thread belongs elsewhere. If you are doing budget HT with component stuff it's not a HTIB so it shouldn't be here, that's all.

My time on this MB has nothing to do with it. I'm on 6 other MB's relating to other interests of mine so just because you have lots of posts here compared to me doesn't mean ****. You know stuff I don't and vice versa.

Take a valium and good night.

I find it amusing that you are specifically targeting your bashing on the 990 yet I see no posts from you in the official ht-s590 thread................hidden agenda in the making????????

Send me info on building a $500.00 system that is better than the 790.
post #136 of 3362
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Originally Posted by flags View Post

Yeah, G-Star please don't ruin the thread.

I smell an IP boot real soon for you.
post #137 of 3362
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Originally Posted by Leftey View Post

I smell an IP boot real soon for you.

Why do you say that?
post #138 of 3362
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Originally Posted by flags View Post

Why do you say that?

You are instigating, annoying (but somewhat entertaining, kinda like watching the special Olympics) and have absolutely no forum etiquette. You have said it so many times how you feel about the 790. NOBODY cares! You are beating a dead horse just about everyday. But this is getting greatly off topic and I'm done with this dead horse.
post #139 of 3362
I don't know what to think about flags, he obviously has a passion for his purchase and wants to back it up.

But you are bordering on being annoying, your passion has gotten me to check out your setup, and while I find it interesting, the advice of everyone else in this thread is more compelling.

I just want to set up a 2.1 right now, (what is the .1 anyways?)

I am thinking the
Onkyo TX-SR 504 ($169)
Polkr R15 ($75/pr):
Polk Audio RM6752 ($79):

Just to get started as I live in a small apartment. I am not looking for blow your mind sound, just better than what I am getting out of the TV speakers.
post #140 of 3362
CrysDark:

The .1 is the sub
post #141 of 3362
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Originally Posted by CrysDark View Post

I don't know what to think about flags, he obviously has a passion for his purchase and wants to back it up.

But you are bordering on being annoying, your passion has gotten me to check out your setup, and while I find it interesting, the advice of everyone else in this thread is more compelling.

I just want to set up a 2.1 right now, (what is the .1 anyways?)

I am thinking the
Onkyo TX-SR 504 ($169)
Polkr R15 ($75/pr):
Polk Audio RM6752 ($79):

Just to get started as I live in a small apartment. I am not looking for blow your mind sound, just better than what I am getting out of the TV speakers.

Sorry if I seem to be passionate about the 790. I spent a lot of time researching prior to my purchase and am just trying to save others time and $$$ on a nice system that is reliable and a bargain at the price it's selling for. When set up properly it truly does surround you in awesome sound for the price point. It makes stereo seem old fashioned in many ways. I do like the ipod feature, the radio and other features this system has that cannot be found elsewhere for $375.00. Anyway I just wanted to explain why I recommend this system to others.
Sorry to have bothered you. Good luck with your choice.
post #142 of 3362
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Originally Posted by Leftey View Post

You are instigating, annoying (but somewhat entertaining, kinda like watching the special Olympics) and have absolutely no forum etiquette. You have said it so many times how you feel about the 790. NOBODY cares! You are beating a dead horse just about everyday. But this is getting greatly off topic and I'm done with this dead horse.

Thank you and I praise you for your honesty without being nasty. You sir, are a gentleman.
post #143 of 3362
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrysDark View Post

I just want to set up a 2.1 right now, (what is the .1 anyways?)

I am thinking the
Onkyo TX-SR 504 ($169)
Polkr R15 ($75/pr):
Polk Audio RM6752 ($79):

i'd go for the receiver for sure, and the polk R15's. for the sub, take a look at the velodyne VX-10. athena P4000, or Bic H-100. this would be a solid 2.1 system with plenty of room to grow.

the polk 5.1 package would be OK, but the speakers would be smaller and the sub would not be as good as some of the others i mentioned, especially the Bic.
post #144 of 3362
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by flags View Post

Sorry if I seem to be passionate about the 790. I spent a lot of time researching prior to my purchase and am just trying to save others time and $$$ on a nice system that is reliable and a bargain at the price it's selling for.

there's an enormous thread dedicated to the 790...do us all a favor, and take your passion for it there.

this thread is for people who want to go above and beyond the HTIB approach on a budget. you've repeatedly made your point about your thoughts on the onkyo system...enough. let's move on to more useful discussions of putting together component systems.
post #145 of 3362
Question - If I were to start off with a stereo setup and wanted to expand in the future (maybe a year or two later), how would I find matching components for the center and surround speakers? Any suggestions, like for the psb setup I envisioned earlier? Thanks
post #146 of 3362
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Originally Posted by studdad View Post

Ron:

considering i go with the the speakers you suggested (probably the EX's), what would be a good center match?

http://www.**********/products_product.php?section=speakers&product=91.1

I'm sure this will be available with the EX upgrade as well.
post #147 of 3362
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Originally Posted by CrysDark View Post

I am thinking the
Onkyo TX-SR 504 ($169)
Polkr R15 ($75/pr):
Polk Audio RM6752 ($79):

Try 4 R150s from outpost @ $100.00
A CSi25 from outpost @ $70.00
The Onkyo @ $170

Then shop for the sub...the Bic would be my recommendation, but it puts you slightly over your budget...I've seen Velo VX10s for ~ $160...it's a tuneful sub that doesn't go very deep (~30hz), but it will eat a HTIB sub alive.

Velo sub @ $160
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$500 or ~ $600 for the Bic

This would be a damn fine entry level HT, excellent for movies and very good for music.
post #148 of 3362
Ron,

Thanks again!!
post #149 of 3362
Very informative thread. I have a quick question if someone has an answer or opinion.

I bought the Onkyo 504, the $200 velodyne cht speakers and am shopping for the sub.


My question is about setting up the system as 7.1 (future) using the four velodynes for surround and adding the Polk R20 speakers a for the from left and right (I have a pair of Polk R20 speakers from a few years back).

Will this work ok?

I am not an audiophile or anything like that, just want a decent HT setup to enjow with wife and family. I Also have 50" panasonic plasma and oppo 170, if that matters.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
post #150 of 3362
you can get the bic h-100 for 239.00 on ebay from acoustech. Just make sure you make an offer you may get it for less than that.
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