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post #2911 of 3363
the ideal of your L C R is to be even so the sound feels right so i think its critical that the front 3 match even if they are smaller speakers as long as they match.....

also as far as being big that is your consideration, think flat crt tubes they were best pQ but people wanted something style and thin so then lost PQ for something of a appearance.....

that is your choice. i doublt that the center from the infinity is any bigger then my infinity beta C360?

anyways can we say that that all 3 speakers should sound symmetrical?
post #2912 of 3363
hey all, I just wanted to thank everyone for the advice in this thread, especially the first post. I pulled the trigger on those Polk R50's ($169 for a pair, including shipping!) and while I don't have them yet, I can't imagine them being anything but awesome.

Also because of this thread in particular, I decided to not do the HTIB and instead piece it together. I got about $1000 worth of stuff yesterday, and I would hazard a guess that it will sound better than any $1000 HTIB I could have purchased (even the HK CP65!).

Thanks everyone for all the massive input in these forums!
post #2913 of 3363
This is available for around 470 from 6ave . is this a good deal? i have the primus 362B sitting at home without a receiver. Appreciate your input.

Thanks
Anand
post #2914 of 3363
Quote:
Originally Posted by rangaswamy View Post

This is available for around 470 from 6ave . is this a good deal? i have the primus 362B sitting at home without a receiver. Appreciate your input.

Thanks
Anand

Yes, the 705 is a great deal for that price. Get it!
post #2915 of 3363
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Yes, the 705 is a great deal for that price. Get it!

Ill get it as soon as i get a chance to demo this piece. Im confused between this and the denon 2308.

A friend of mine just returned the 705 for a yamaha 663.
post #2916 of 3363
Connect your speakers to his Yamaha 663. If you like it, get it. The 663 can be had for about $350. He can tell you why he liked the 663 better than the Onkyo since he exchanged it.

I haven't heard any Denon's in a while so I can't offer an opinion on those.
post #2917 of 3363
why would someone want to buy a inferior product (low stuff) yamaha insted of a onkyo? in terms of better product of better built better performance etc etc just better?
post #2918 of 3363
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Originally Posted by gus738 View Post

why would someone want to buy a inferior product (low stuff) yamaha insted of a onkyo? in terms of better product of better built better performance etc etc just better?

The yamaha was just less complicated and served his requirement better, most of us dont have a dedicated home theater room and hence the requirements are much lesser.
im considering a onkyo just to be future proof for at least 5 years in terms of my requirement. At this point any darn old receiver will work for me.

thx
post #2919 of 3363
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Originally Posted by gus738 View Post

why would someone want to buy a inferior product (low stuff) yamaha insted of a onkyo? in terms of better product of better built better performance etc etc just better?

Can you say "FANBOY"??
post #2920 of 3363
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Originally Posted by samsurd2 View Post

Can you say "FANBOY"??

fanboy? for what onkyo being better brand then yamaha? theirs alot of words to define fanboy but bottom line onkyo is known as a better brand then yamaha, to me i think its lower end i didnt say it was POS but its a lower end product. please correct me or quote me again samsurd but if you do it please explain rather then just call out someone fanboy
post #2921 of 3363
hey guys, the Polk R50 floorstanding speakers are back @ $59/ea at Frys.com again

http://shop1.frys.com/ShopCartServlet?purchase=4005092

I ordered two last week...only negative is waiting forever for DHL to deliver grrr (but worth it considering the price!)
post #2922 of 3363
are these polk R50 floorstanding better then the onkyo book shelf SKF-100?

i would assume yes due to floorstand vs book shelf but what do you guys think? worth the price? i have a onkyo TX-SR600 and onkyo SKW-100 sub and all around onkyo speakers 5.1 SK 100 series


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Originally Posted by Angry_Games View Post

hey guys, the Polk R50 floorstanding speakers are back @ $59/ea at Frys.com again

http://shop1.frys.com/ShopCartServlet?purchase=4005092

I ordered two last week...only negative is waiting forever for DHL to deliver grrr (but worth it considering the price!)
post #2923 of 3363
Polk is a speaker manufacturer, Onkyo is an electronics conglomerate. They sub out those speaker contracts based on low bid/low pricepoint economics.

The R50s are an entry level floorstander that's being sold below cost by Frys. It's a gateway product...an excellent value that does many things very well, but it's not likely that you will stop there within the Polk lineup.

They absolutely destroy any Onkyo HTIB speaker package whether it's bookshelf or not. Onkyo makes decent AVRs, not speakers.
post #2924 of 3363
Ron my onkyo is not part of a htib but in short you're saying that the polk R50 in no doulbt is a better deal consider the $60 a piece?

also another issue is the timber since the center is onkyo's SKC-100

and last but not least the onkyo TX-SR600 is only 80 Watts per channel based on 8 ohms....

how would it work with the polk? assuming i get the 2 front polk r50s (onkyo center?) and as for rears as a coencidence i happen to have Polk R15 lol or Onkyo SKM-100

thanks in advance
post #2925 of 3363
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Originally Posted by gus738 View Post

Ron my onkyo is not part of a htib but in short you're saying that the polk R50 in no doulbt is a better deal consider the $60 a piece?

also another issue is the timber since the center is onkyo's SKC-100

and last but not least the onkyo TX-SR600 is only 80 Watts per channel based on 8 ohms....

how would it work with the polk? assuming i get the 2 front polk r50s (onkyo center?) and as for rears as a coencidence i happen to have Polk R15 lol or Onkyo SKM-100

thanks in advance

Gus, I searched Onkyo's site and couldn't find anything on those speakers. I'd guess you would greatly prefer the R50s and want to swap out the center in short order. The CS1 or CSi3 work well with the Rs. Polk R15s match the R50s. My first Polk setup was R50s/CSi3/R15s with various subs (all much better than the current SKW-204). It was a setup that was hard to upgrade. Better speakers that cost considerably more money weren't that much better until you got into the 3-5K range (as a system), at least for me. Don't get me wrong, I heard plenty of speakers > $400 a pair that I thought were superior, just not enough to justify upgrading the whole rig. I eventually went vintage to get what I wanted. Both my boys now have hand me down Polk R and RTi rigs...they are a great value, excellent for HT and very decent for music.
post #2926 of 3363
ok so its worth it but will my onkyo power it fine? or due to the fact that it only goes 80 wpc at 8 ohms will it sound the same or worse ?

last will the tiber be bad if i keep the current center? how much is the cs1? the only reason the polk pop into my head was cuz of the price
post #2927 of 3363
The Onkyo receiver will power the Polks fine. They power my Athenas without a problem.

I would dump the Onkyo center. It will probably sound funky with the R50s (funky in the bad way.)
post #2928 of 3363
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angry_Games View Post

hey guys, the Polk R50 floorstanding speakers are back @ $59/ea at Frys.com again

http://shop1.frys.com/ShopCartServlet?purchase=4005092

I ordered two last week...only negative is waiting forever for DHL to deliver grrr (but worth it considering the price!)

The local Fry's stores were selling the R50's in black for $59 each also. I actually think the cherry looks better though.

They'll probably be on sale again Friday when their 8 page ad comes out.
post #2929 of 3363
Ok, I was ready to pull the trigger on the Onkyo HT-SP908, then I saw the HT-S6100, which seems like a better fit for me because I wasn't even interested in the DVD player that come with the 908 system. But then I got thinking about ditching the HTIB idea after I found this site. Both systems are available for about $700. But I'd be willing to spend a little more if I thought I would get a better end result (up to $1000).

Room is about 12' x 14'.
System will be for PS3 games and Blu-Ray played through PS3.
I'd like to get a 7.1 system without waiting to add rear speakers later
Due to the room layout, I don't have room for floorstanding speakers
I'm currenty looking at Onkyo TX-SR606 for $369 or the TX-SR705 for $499
That would leave $640 or $500 for 7 speakers + sub

Is this do-able? Or would I be better off with the HTIB for my pricerange?
If do-able, what speakers are recommended?

Thanks in advance for any help!!!!!
post #2930 of 3363
Sure, its doable. Take a look at this Mission 7.1 system

5.1 system
http://www.tsto.com/cgi-bin/TSTO.sto...duct/View/2229

Add 2 more M30 speakers
http://www.tsto.com/cgi-bin/TSTO.sto...duct/View/2191

That puts you at $310 plus shipping. Then add your subwoofer of choice with the remaining money.

Another deal.
3 pairs of Athena LS-100 for $99/pr
1 Athena LS Center for $99

Leaves you $100-$240 for your subwoofer.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...ures/540349076
http://www.cadencestore.com/ProductC...&idproduct=396
post #2931 of 3363
Quote:
Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Sure, its doable. Take a look at this Mission 7.1 system

5.1 system
http://www.tsto.com/cgi-bin/TSTO.sto...duct/View/2229

Add 2 more M30 speakers
http://www.tsto.com/cgi-bin/TSTO.sto...duct/View/2191

That puts you at $310 plus shipping. Then add your subwoofer of choice with the remaining money.

Another deal.
3 pairs of Athena LS-100 for $99/pr
1 Athena LS Center for $99

Leaves you $100-$240 for your subwoofer.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...ures/540349076
http://www.cadencestore.com/ProductC...&idproduct=396

Thanks for the help! If I bought the Onkyo HTIB HT-S6100 and replaced the front and center channel speakers, would it sound messed up?
S6100 HTIB for $700
1 pairs of Athena LS-100 for $99/pr
1 Athena LS Center for $99
$900 total

I like the S6100 because I'd end up with a more powerful receiver (130 watts/ch vs 100) (and I'd get the ipod dock too).

What about the HSU Ventriloquist set
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/performance2.html
Are they better/worse than the Athena LS-100 speakers?
post #2932 of 3363
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Originally Posted by Tulpa View Post

The Onkyo receiver will power the Polks fine. They power my Athenas without a problem.

I would dump the Onkyo center. It will probably sound funky with the R50s (funky in the bad way.)


why is this? i was considering getting an onyko avr and pairing it with those polks. would i be better off pairing it with the hsu bookshelves/center?

nevermind - i didnt notice you said ditch the onyko CENTER.....
post #2933 of 3363
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Originally Posted by sulakd View Post

Thanks for the help! If I bought the Onkyo HTIB HT-S6100 and replaced the front and center channel speakers, would it sound messed up?

How "messed up" it will be is only up to you to decide. Certainly you should hear differences with multi-channel music and possibly with some movie scenes with heavy front to back panning, but 3 good front speakers is certainly better than none. Many other people went that route. Most movies (if that's your HT goal) will sound better with improved dialog.

Quote:


I like the S6100 because I'd end up with a more powerful receiver (130 watts/ch vs 100) (and I'd get the ipod dock too).

Don't get hung up on the receiver power ratings too much. Those "130 W/ch" and "1200W system power", that excite the HTiB crowd so much, were written by the marketing team for Onkyo to compete with the WalMart $150 1500W wonders.
post #2934 of 3363
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Originally Posted by gus738 View Post

how would it work with the polk? assuming i get the 2 front polk r50s (onkyo center?) and as for rears as a coencidence i happen to have Polk R15 lol or Onkyo SKM-100

thanks in advance

I got the Polk R150 bookshelf speakers (which I think are almost equal to the R50s) when Frys.com had them for $49 a pair, and then looked around for a center speaker. Frys.com then had the CSR center speaker for $79 for about two weeks. You could get the smokin' deal on the Polk R50s now, use your existing center with the goal of upgrading it when a Polk CSi center goes on sale (also check the Polk Outlet store on "the bay" for specials on the centers ... they have them occasionally. The store is linked from the Polk website).
post #2935 of 3363
Crutchfield has the CSR for $99. It's the sonic match to the R50s.
post #2936 of 3363
ok i need to go to polk website lol CSR is sonic matched? as in timber properly with R50?
what about the cs1 or csi??

only reasons why i want to upgrade is because from 100/ or 199 r50 to 60 and likewise with center since i want a proper treamtment,

and heck if 3 fronts are polk are timber and 2 back R15 its should be a better upgrade from the onkyo sk-100 series
post #2937 of 3363
hows the polk r40? i assume its the older line before the r50's.....i have the opprtunity to get 2 of them and the maching center for 150 used in good condition.

should i jump on it?
post #2938 of 3363
I have polk R300s (similar to R50 with one woofer). I had the CSR and I wasn't a big fan. I upgraded to the csi3 and am very happy with the results (even the wife noticed a difference). It's close enough to the tweets in the R300, so it doesn't sound "weird".

Just my $0.02
post #2939 of 3363
how much is csi though?
post #2940 of 3363
Quote:
Originally Posted by gus738 View Post

how much is csi though?

CSi3 $130 plus shipping at Amazon and jr.com. Comes in black or cherry.

You can also get the CS1 for $95 shipped from Amazon. people tend to like that better than the CSR.

CSi3 is a little better speaker than CS1. Is it worth the extra $35-$50? that's up to you.
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