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Sub breakin period

post #1 of 12
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Hello all, new here. I just had a question about sub breakin periods. I just got my PB12 plus/2 sub in 2 days ago and have been running it quit alot. It might just be me but it seems to be sounding better over time, Like louder and better extention. At first it was just good but over these last two days Im liking it more. Two be honest I thought it would be alittle louder. I guess the tunning is just to low for high spl. My room is 4000 cubic feet and only reach around 109db. Is this normal? I was hopping for referance 115db. Anyway anyone else beleaved theirs sounded better after alittle breakin, and what SPL/cubic feet are you getting with the PB12 plus/2? Thanks
post #2 of 12
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No one?
post #3 of 12
Some people believe in break-in, some don't.
But even if it is true, that would be more like the tonality of the sound, not being able to get more max SPL.

If your meter says 109dB when you do the max/peak hold, is that the raw measurement? Because you can add 3~4dB to that to get the real SPL. That's a big room. But the closer you place the sub to your listening position, the more SPL you'll get there.
post #4 of 12
Mine did the same thing. It did get better after usage but mine took 2 months. This sub is made to hit reference at the 25 and 20 hz mode and depending on room size. Remember when you use a spl meter the numbers are usually lower than normal and depending on frequency. I hit 118 db's 1 meter away(back row) and 115 db's 2 meters away(front row). My room is 2300 cubic feet and with no openings. That is running the sub about 5 db's hot in the 16 hz mode. I prefer the 16 hz mode because the bass seems tighter that way. If you want reference try the 25 hz mode.
post #5 of 12
First of all,at what distance from the sub do you measure? Listening position,1 or 2m from the subwoofer.Is the sub corner loaded,where is it placed?

At what frequency did you get the result? Any sub can pound out a high 80Hz ,few can do the same at even a high 25Hz.
post #6 of 12
Most subs and speakers in general will perform better after a period of use. The voice coil, surround, and speaker cone become less stiff and more flexible allowing better excursion and output. The amount of improvement varies depending on the design, manufacturer and model.

Ian
post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
Was taken at 3 meters away. It was just peaks during a movie. I had a klipsch rw-12 that hit 113db at the same placement, but Im sure that the hz it hit it at was much higher. This sub is much smoother with real punch in the lower end. So how off is the meter at lower frequences? I run mine at the 25hz tune.
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by tclay77 View Post

Was taken at 3 meters away. It was just peaks during a movie. I had a klipsch rw-12 that hit 113db at the same placement, but Im sure that the hz it hit it at was much higher. This sub is much smoother with real punch in the lower end. So how off is the meter at lower frequences? I run mine at the 25hz tune.

TCLAY77

Audio meters are not, usually, accurate at very low frequencies. I will asume you are using the RS meter. There have been many compensation tables published and many debates about it, so I can't guarantee these numbers (Latest I could find) are 100% accurate, but they will be very close.
At the specified frequency you add the dB figures to the reading of your RS meter:

10 Hz +5 dB
12 Hz +6 dB
16 Hz +14.8 dB
25 Hz +7.8 dB
30 Hz +5 dB
40 Hz +3.2 dB
50 Hz +2 dB
80 Hz +1 dB
100 Hz +1.2 dB

On the other issue. Have you bottomed out the SVS? If not, on what do you base the maximum SPL number (109dB) for the SVS?

Regarding speaker break in. There are those who believe and those that don't.

There were test performed on this claim, it covered both objective (measurements) and subjective (listening) testing. The tests were performed double blind. First several model speakers (in pairs) were tested and measured. Then one of each was put aside while the others were subjected to heavy use. (If I remember correctly both white noise and music was used)

After the "break in period" speakers were tested and listened to again. The differences between the :broken in" and not were....

Less than the difference between two new speakers.

Listeners could not tell the differences between the broken in and not speakers.

There's yet to be a double blind test that shows differently.

One most make its own conclusion.
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
Then it must be me. Like I said, I had a Klipsch rw-12 and it was really loud. I guess in the upper hz instead of the lower hz like my new SVS is. What I am getting from the new SVS is wonderful low bass which the RS meter cant get an accurate reading on. Guess my ears are getting use to or liking this full sound as the hours go by. Anyway, know one with SPL numbers? If i get 109 at 25hz then it is more like 116hz right?
post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by tclay77 View Post

Then it must be me. Like I said, I had a Klipsch rw-12 and it was really loud. I guess in the upper hz instead of the lower hz like my new SVS is. What I am getting from the new SVS is wonderful low bass which the RS meter cant get an accurate reading on. Guess my ears are getting use to or liking this full sound as the hours go by. Anyway, know one with SPL numbers? If i get 109 at 25hz then it is more like 116hz right?

That will be correct, at 25Hz, according to that table.

The mind can play all kinds of tricks on you. Keep in mind that meters and test signals are measuring tools. Nobody can tell you what you like. If you like the sound of the SVS better, then that's it. If you would like it louder, then turn up the level. If you bottom out when playing it, add another one.

Life is good!
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
Read elsewere on this forum that the new RS digital meters are more accurate, or is it the same at 25hz? Hey John F. Palacio, just add another one if I bottom out, OMG have you seen the size of the PB12plus/2. Way bigger than I expected. My room is big, but I dont know about adding another one. Would love the headroom though. Wanted to get the old Ultra but they sold all out two days before I ordered.
post #12 of 12
The new digital RS meters are more accurate above 30~35Hz or so. You still need to compensate below that, but not by quite as much as the old analogs.
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