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Originally Posted by Mark Strube 
Really? So the fact that you can in fact purchase a region-free HDMI upconverting DVD player for not too much over $50, still doesn't make one that costs $230 a bit expensive? (You can argue all you like about different upconversion methods like Faroudja, but that's another thing that comes down to personal taste.) You can also argue all you like about Denon's that cost almost $4g, but that's not even within the buying power of most people who would be looking at something in the price range we're talking about. This is like saying a house for $500,000 is inexpensive because there's 10 million dollar mansions out there. You're saying my comparison to HD-DVD players isn't fair, when in fact your comparison to insanely high-end Denon's is not fair. An HD-DVD is, in fact, a viable DVD player, and in my mind a very fair comparison, because guess what - it plays DVD's! (With the ability to play the next-gen format as well.) It plays DVD's, and also upconverts them thru HDMI. How is that "ludicrous"?
Really? So the fact that you can in fact purchase a region-free HDMI upconverting DVD player for not too much over $50, still doesn't make one that costs $230 a bit expensive? (You can argue all you like about different upconversion methods like Faroudja, but that's another thing that comes down to personal taste.) You can also argue all you like about Denon's that cost almost $4g, but that's not even within the buying power of most people who would be looking at something in the price range we're talking about. This is like saying a house for $500,000 is inexpensive because there's 10 million dollar mansions out there. You're saying my comparison to HD-DVD players isn't fair, when in fact your comparison to insanely high-end Denon's is not fair. An HD-DVD is, in fact, a viable DVD player, and in my mind a very fair comparison, because guess what - it plays DVD's! (With the ability to play the next-gen format as well.) It plays DVD's, and also upconverts them thru HDMI. How is that "ludicrous"?
Your arguments are disingenuous. You originally contested my statement of fact that $229.99 is inexpensive for an upconverting region-free DVD player. It is more expensive than $50.00, but that is irrelevant as defining whether a product is expensive or inexpensive is determined by the price's position within a range of prices. In this case, that range is from $50.00 up to $3799.99 or more. It is clear than within this range, $229.99 is inexpensive as it would clearly fall below the median price range for DVD players. Only a fool would suggest otherwise. There are players less expensive, and they would also be defined as inexpensive. That does not make the Oppo an expensive player.
Your real estate argument is ridiculous as it is clear that inexpensive would be defined based on the median home price in the nation, which is currently about $219,300.00. Anything above the median would properly be defined as expensive and anything below as inexpensive. Thus your argument that a $500,000.00 home is inexpensive because a $10,000,000.00 home exists is demonstrated to have no relevance, and in fact to be ridiculous.
Your HD-DVD argument is just plain silly. People who want a DVD player are not shopping for an HD-DVD player and buying one during a format war because one may want to use it for HD content at some unknown future date. That would be just plain stupid. You know this, but are still dishonestly trying to assert that this has relevance. Only a person who has already decided that he is going to buy some HD content would even consider buying an HD-DVD player. Do try to keep your arguments grounded in the real world and not the fantasy land of minimum wage earners buying home theater equipment and people buying HD-DVD players so they can watch HD content years down the road.
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