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post #211 of 240
6/11/07 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by barbie845 View Post

Yes, Stern has added subs, lots of them. No not every sub Sirius has signed from 600,000 has signed up because of Stern..

Yes XM was the dominate force, but because of the Ipod, internet radio, etc. and spending money like it was free on extremely stupid signings XM would still be in the mess they are in now, with or without Stern signing with Sirius..

Under no circumstance would Stern have signed with XM. With Mel going to Sirius, which happened 2 weeks after Stern signed so Stern had to know of Mel coming to Sirius, Stern would have never signed with XM..Which means Sirius VASTLY overpaid for Stern..

If Stern, and all of XM stupid signings/content are so good and doing such wonders, why are both companies on the verge of bankruptcy?

It's simple. Both companies spent money they didn't have and in the meantime got blindsided by all the other competition out there. Add it all up and it's piss poor management so now a merger is their only way out... We'll see what happens..

Got it?

howard was talking with both companies, sirius came up with more money and there are other reasons howard went with sirius but i wont list them because it's howard talking and you'll just say he's full of **** so i wont bother listing them

if howard went with xm, it would have been game over for sirius, no merger, no nothing, out of business

same thing if howard just stayed where he was, do you really think sirius went from being a nothing satellite company to now almost hitting 7 million subs and closing in on xm because it had better music?


wake up

get a clue

mel is a business man, sirius is a business, do you think they just gave howard 500 mill because they liked him?

nigga please !!!!!!!!!!
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post #212 of 240
6/12/07 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by barbie845 View Post

..Which means Sirius VASTLY overpaid for Stern..

This is said over and over again and it is totally unfounded.

Yes, they gave him a ton of money. Yes, it is a ridiculous amount. But it was necessary to save the entire company from certain demise.

Sirius needed less than one million subscribers to pay for Stern's entire contract. Even the most conservative estimates put that number at over 3 million. His contract has already paid for itself and then some.
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post #213 of 240
6/12/07 at 8:27am
I think Sirius overpaid for Stern because XM's offer was reported at 30 million per year, he had no where else to go and had no other offers.

that said, Sterns contract has already paid for itself and with-out stern sirius would have gone belly up by now.
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post #214 of 240
6/12/07 at 1:14pm
Thanks Merc., the 30 million a year from XM figure is correct.. And with Mel going to Sirius there's no way in hell he would have ever signed with XM, even if XM matched the 100 mil a year offer..

As for Sirius going belly up without Stern I disagree.. It was stated MANY times when Sirius was in it's infancy that it needed 2 million subs to make a profit. They would easily be passed that mark by now even without Stern. And maybe making a profit.

Don't get me wrong, I don't just blame Stern for Sirius's woes. Sirius pissed money away on many other big money contacts. I just feel they took the wrong road.
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post #215 of 240
6/12/07 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by barbie845 View Post

Thanks Merc., the 30 million a year from XM figure is correct.. And with Mel going to Sirius there's no way in hell he would have ever signed with XM, even if XM matched the 100 mil a year offer..

As for Sirius going belly up without Stern I disagree.. It was stated MANY times when Sirius was in it's infancy that it needed 2 million subs to make a profit. They would easily be passed that mark by now even without Stern. And maybe making a profit.

Don't get me wrong, I don't just blame Stern for Sirius's woes. Sirius pissed money away on many other big money contacts. I just feel they took the wrong road.

broken record
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post #216 of 240
6/12/07 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

broken record

Yep, thanks for adding nothing to the discussion, as usual...

Move along now, nothing to see here...
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post #217 of 240
6/12/07 at 4:36pm
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Originally Posted by barbie845 View Post

Thanks Merc., the 30 million a year from XM figure is correct.. And with Mel going to Sirius there's no way in hell he would have ever signed with XM, even if XM matched the 100 mil a year offer..

As for Sirius going belly up without Stern I disagree.. It was stated MANY times when Sirius was in it's infancy that it needed 2 million subs to make a profit. They would easily be passed that mark by now even without Stern. And maybe making a profit.

Don't get me wrong, I don't just blame Stern for Sirius's woes. Sirius pissed money away on many other big money contacts. I just feel they took the wrong road.

Barb it was a road Sirius needed to take. like him or hate him Stern is the face of SatRadio. he "helped" put Sirius on the map. the only way Sirius would have gone under is if Stern signed with XM...otherwise they probably would be chugging along...
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post #218 of 240
6/14/07 at 11:31am
According to XM's web sight "the Opie and Andy show" will return Friday.

Yes thats Opie and Andy....

http://xmradio.com/onxm/channelpage.xmc?ch=the_virus


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post #219 of 240
6/14/07 at 11:45am
Am I the only one who finds what XM is doing disasteful?

Will be interesting to see how "Opie and Andy" will address the topic when they return. Are they under orders not to talk about it? Will they downplay it? Or will they do the right thing and come out against XM for not supporting them?

I'm not a fan but I have to admit, I'll listen tomorrow...
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post #220 of 240
6/14/07 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by RaveD View Post

Am I the only one who finds what XM is doing disasteful?

Will be interesting to see how "Opie and Andy" will address the topic when they return. Are they under orders not to talk about it? Will they downplay it? Or will they do the right thing and come out against XM for not supporting them?

I'm not a fan but I have to admit, I'll listen tomorrow...

they won't talk about it probably....what's left to talk about?

i believe they would like to keep their jobs
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post #221 of 240
6/14/07 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by lost0822 View Post

they won't talk about it probably....what's left to talk about?

i believe they would like to keep their jobs

didn't they talk about it on "free fm" yet?
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post #222 of 240
6/14/07 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

didn't they talk about it on "free fm" yet?


they were gagged, again!!!
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post #223 of 240
6/14/07 at 5:57pm
and tomorrow is Friday so all you Howie fans that have nothing to listen to, find a friend with XM and tune in.
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post #224 of 240
6/14/07 at 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by Pat6366 View Post

and tomorrow is Friday so all you Howie fans that have nothing to listen to, find a friend with XM and tune in.

i can listen on free fm but i haven't listen to old fashioned radio since 2004

i'll be listening to master tape theatre tomorrow on howard 100
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post #225 of 240
6/15/07 at 4:48am
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

i can listen on free fm but i haven't listen to old fashioned radio since 2004

i'll be listening to master tape theatre tomorrow on howard 100

Of course I was refering ot the XM portion of the show, but you knew that. I thought Howie plays best of clips from his golden era, that's pretty close to listening to "old fashion radio"
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post #226 of 240
6/15/07 at 6:25am
well i was wrong...they are talking about the suspension.

good to have the boys back.
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post #227 of 240
6/15/07 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by lost0822 View Post

well i was wrong...they are talking about the suspension.

good to have the boys back.

I missed something. What suspension? What happened?
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post #228 of 240
6/15/07 at 11:11am
O&A invited "Homeless Charlie" to the studio on May 9th. He riffed on a bunch of topics, from the war, to Al Sharpton, freedom and censorship (oh the irony), and others, with his inimitable and deplorable style. He also talked up some rough sex fantasies with the likes of the Queen, Laura Bush, and Condoleeza Rice. The last one brought up quite a bit of outcry, and they issued an apology before the May 11th show. And that was that. Until the following week.

On the May 14th show, they talked about censorship and unreasonably high standards on radio (above and beyond FCC rules). This led XM to "doubt whether they understand the responsibility their on-air freedom entails" and issue a 30-day suspension. For the next month, the first 3 hours were still broadcast on CBS, but not on XM. 202 was Ron & Fez 24/7. Fans assumed the show would be canned, cancelled XM subscriptions in droves. This past monday, XM began airing "worst of CBS compilations", leading up to today's first live XM brodcast since May 15th.
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post #229 of 240
6/15/07 at 3:07pm
So did anyone listen today? When I cancelled on May 16, I wasn't sure if I'd sign back up, and in the meantime my car stereo blew up.. I will most likely sign back up, but not for at least a couple of weeks until I find the intermittent short in the amp power line.

Was it the same old same old, and I'm guessing they didn't talk about the suspension...much?
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post #230 of 240
6/16/07 at 6:43am
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Originally Posted by Curt Palme View Post

So did anyone listen today? When I cancelled on May 16, I wasn't sure if I'd sign back up, and in the meantime my car stereo blew up.. I will most likely sign back up, but not for at least a couple of weeks until I find the intermittent short in the amp power line.

Was it the same old same old, and I'm guessing they didn't talk about the suspension...much?

From the portion that I heard, it did not seem as though there were any restrictions on discussing the suspension. They had Patrice and Bob Kelly in studio and were having some laughs discussing the media coverage, such as Patrice on Fox News. I recorded the show and hope to listen to more today.
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post #231 of 240
6/16/07 at 12:38pm
I'm so glad I have Sirius and not worry about suspensions. I feel bad for XM users still having to deal with the BS.
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post #232 of 240
6/16/07 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by vitod View Post

I'm so glad I have Sirius and not worry about suspensions. I feel bad for XM users still having to deal with the BS.

Thanks, we appreciate your sincere concern.
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post #233 of 240
6/16/07 at 7:31pm
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Originally Posted by Curt Palme View Post

Was it the same old same old, and I'm guessing they didn't talk about the suspension...much?

They talked about it for a little over an hour, including about 10 minutes on the walkover. Basically said that they were almost fired, had a lot of meetings, and the outcome was that there are no content restrictions and the company has learned the hard way that they need to back their talent, so they will do so in the future. Whether all that is true remains to be seen, but Friday's XM show was a LOT better than I expected. I honestly figured it'd be <2 hours of ignoring the elephant in the room, when in fact it was 2:40 of both addressing the situation and covering more "normal" topics. I was impressed enough that I reactivated both of my units today, which I wasn't planning to do for another few weeks at least.

Ok, there is one content restriction. People off the street who get invited up to the studio are now required to show proof of residence.
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post #234 of 240
6/17/07 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by Pat6366 View Post

Thanks, we appreciate your sincere concern.


and that is your daily pat6366 sarcastic remark for the day..
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post #235 of 240
6/18/07 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by RAVEN56706 View Post

and that is your daily pat6366 sarcastic remark for the day..


Yeah but it was a good remark though....
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post #236 of 240
6/23/07 at 10:34pm
O&A are irrelevant when compared with Howard Stern.
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post #237 of 240
6/24/07 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by crakadikt View Post

O&A are irrelevant when compared with Howard Stern.

I have XM thru my Directv Box and a Sirius in my car. Hope the merger goes thru, I think it will make both companies stronger as one. And on the O&A / Howard Stern show. Listening to O&A, it's like listening to Howard Stern material from 10 years ago. I am sure if there is a merger, O&A would be Dead Wood to the new company.
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post #238 of 240
6/24/07 at 1:54pm
I think this merger is doomed, mostly due to the NAB & Clear Channel lobbiests, but if it does happen, I too think that O&A may find themselves back on CBS only, back to censored commercial radio, which might not be that bad for them. They would certainly have the chance to get a large audience. Of course, so far they have not done so......
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post #239 of 240
6/24/07 at 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by B&W700guy View Post

And on the O&A / Howard Stern show. Listening to O&A, it's like listening to Howard Stern material from 10 years ago. .


same bits 10 years later-

thanks-
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post #240 of 240
6/24/07 at 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by barbie845 View Post

Yeah but it was a good remark though....

Thanks Barbie, I thought so too.
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