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I am looking at monoprice.com for a 6ft hdmi cable. I see there is a 24awg with "net jacket" priced at $17.93 but is not in stock. They also carry a 28awg w/ ferrite cores cable 6ft in stock for only $5.84.

What the heck is the difference? I read the 24awg is thicker than 28awg, but is that actually going to mean anything performance wise? Also, is there any reason for those big dumb cylinders at each end of the 28awg cables?

I know everyone here says not to buy monster cable or anything else expensive, which is why I am looking at monoprice, so since most say hdmi is hdmi, can I buy the 28awg cable at monoprice for $5.84 and get the same exact performance as the 24awg for $17.93? If so, would seem kind of pointless for them to carry two cables with such a difference in price if there is no difference.
post #2 of 20
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Originally Posted by BrianEK View Post

I am looking at monoprice.com for a 6ft hdmi cable. I see there is a 24awg with "net jacket" priced at $17.93 but is not in stock. They also carry a 28awg w/ ferrite cores cable 6ft in stock for only $5.84.

What the heck is the difference? I read the 24awg is thicker than 28awg, but is that actually going to mean anything performance wise? Also, is there any reason for those big dumb cylinders at each end of the 28awg cables?

I know everyone here says not to buy monster cable or anything else expensive, which is why I am looking at monoprice, so since most say hdmi is hdmi, can I buy the 28awg cable at monoprice for $5.84 and get the same exact performance as the 24awg for $17.93? If so, would seem kind of pointless for them to carry two cables with such a difference in price if there is no difference.

I've read here that the 24awg is more suitable for cables 15 feet and up. I can confirm that the 28awg passes 1080p with flying colors as I own it. It works flawlessly.
post #3 of 20
I will say this: After purchasing the 12 ft 24awg a week before the PS3 release, I wish I had known now what I didn't then. The 28 will do you just fine. The 24 is a monstrously thick cable and heavy too (can carry more bandwidth if needed (I think that's the right terminology))...it can also put a lot of unecessary stress on the HDMI ports if you are not careful. That being said the 24 is a sexier cable if that matters to you...in my case I should have gotten the 28. Oh well...
post #4 of 20
At 6' any of the Monoprice cables will work great . I have owned 22/24/28 AWG and they have all suited me fine up to 15' , now if you go over 20' then by all means at least get the 24 AWG ( I use a 25' Monoprice 24 AWG and it is perfect ) . Heck even the 6' HDMI cable that comes as a pack in with the Toshiba HD-A1 works great (even though it seems even thinner than the 28 AWG) .

--- Jason
post #5 of 20
I use the 6 foot 28awg cables and have yet to run into a problem.

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Originally Posted by BrianEK View Post

Also, is there any reason for those big dumb cylinders at each end of the 28awg cables?

I've always wondered this myself. Does anybody here know the answer? It seems like they add extra weight too close to the ends and may cause more stress on the HDMI ports. I would hate to think that they are unnecessary.
post #6 of 20
Heavier guage wire works best for longer runs. I run my monoprice (24awg) 60 feet! No problems.
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by bsk4life View Post

I use the 6 foot 28awg cables and have yet to run into a problem.


I've always wondered this myself. Does anybody here know the answer? It seems like they add extra weight too close to the ends and may cause more stress on the HDMI ports. I would hate to think that they are unnecessary.

Those "cylinders" are noise filters called Ferrite cores. If you go the cable page there is a link called "knowledge base". Within that link is this info:


Question: What are ferrite cores?
Answer: Ferrite cores are the cylindrical fixtures placed near the connectors to reduce noise and high frequency interference.


If you are worried about stress on the HDMI port, you should use these:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by rboster View Post

Those "cylinders" are noise filters called Ferrite cores. If you go the cable page there is a link called "knowledge base". Within that link is this info:


Question: What are ferrite cores?
Answer: Ferrite cores are the cylindrical fixtures placed near the connectors to reduce noise and high frequency interference.


If you are worried about stress on the HDMI port, you should use these:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

Thanks for the info and the link.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by BrianEK View Post

They also carry a 28awg w/ ferrite cores cable 6ft in stock for only $5.84.

I bought that same cable off of monoprice for my PS3. It works great. You can't beat the price. The build quality is great!
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by bsk4life View Post

I use the 6 foot 28awg cables and have yet to run into a problem.


I've always wondered this myself. Does anybody here know the answer? It seems like they add extra weight too close to the ends and may cause more stress on the HDMI ports. I would hate to think that they are unnecessary.

Those are ferite cores which help to minimize RF radiation to and fro. Remember these are very fast pulse trains and moderately high poser levels.
post #11 of 20
I beleive this question has been answered in several parts of this thread. Just in case there are still any confusions, i thought i would clarify a bit. Ferrite cores are the cylindrical fixtures placed near the connectors to filter noise and high frequency interference.

The size of the ferrite need to be in proportion to the diameter of the cable in order to be effective. At 28AWG they are similar in size to the HDMI connector heads. On thicker gauges they would be significantly larger than the connector. Since the spacing between connections on the back of a device are based on the dimensions of the connectors being used, the ferrites would make connecting any other cable very difficult. The ferrites become unwielding and cumbersome so they have not been included on our heavier gauges. In general, the benefit of heavier gauge outweigh the benefit of the ferrites.
post #12 of 20
I have a 6' 28awg Monoprice hdmi with the ferrite cores. I'm getting some sparkle and flash with My samsung 2500 1080p out to my Panasonic 1080p plasma...

I'm hoping that this is an interference issue with something else in my setup- though the hdmi that came free with my Oppo works fine. Then again I used this Monoprice cable with my 720p lcd for months with no issue- who knows?

I'm ordering a non-ferrite equiped bonded pair 28awg hdmi from Blue Jeans just to be safe.
post #13 of 20
Ferrite cores are also used to reduce radiation from the cable to other equipment. They may be required to meet FCC radiation limits rather than improve cable performance.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by dogdoctor View Post

I will say this: After purchasing the 12 ft 24awg a week before the PS3 release, I wish I had known now what I didn't then. The 28 will do you just fine. The 24 is a monstrously thick cable and heavy too (can carry more bandwidth if needed (I think that's the right terminology))...it can also put a lot of unecessary stress on the HDMI ports if you are not careful. That being said the 24 is a sexier cable if that matters to you...in my case I should have gotten the 28. Oh well...


Same exact experience. After my 24awg cable fall off my TV's HDMI plug muliple times, I replaced it with 28awg cables.

I have purchased and used half dozen Monoprice 28awg HDMI cable (6') and never had any problem.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

I have a 6' 28awg Monoprice hdmi with the ferrite cores. I'm getting some sparkle and flash with My samsung 2500 1080p out to my Panasonic 1080p plasma...

I'm hoping that this is an interference issue with something else in my setup- though the hdmi that came free with my Oppo works fine. Then again I used this Monoprice cable with my 720p lcd for months with no issue- who knows?

I'm ordering a non-ferrite equiped bonded pair 28awg hdmi from Blue Jeans just to be safe.

When you order from Blue Jeans, ask them to send you a 28 AWG HDMI cable from Tartan Cable too. Blue Jeans owns Tartan. I think you will be very surprised at the quality of Tartan, especially for the price!
post #16 of 20
The cable that Tartan and Monoprice use is made by the same manufacture (COPARTNER) in China.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

Tartan Cables and Monoprice cables are made by the same manufacture in China.

They both come from China for sure as does everyone's. Even Blue Jeans BJC Belden Bonded-Pair HDMI's final assembly, connector termination, is done in China. I don't know if Tartan and Monoprice come from the same supplier or not as there are many suppliers in China.

I have both Monoprice and Tartan and I prefer Tartan.

Edit: Let me add, nothing wrong with Monoprice, they're good cables at a good price.
post #18 of 20
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post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by BrianEK View Post

I am looking at monoprice.com for a 6ft hdmi cable. I see there is a 24awg with "net jacket" priced at $17.93 but is not in stock. They also carry a 28awg w/ ferrite cores cable 6ft in stock for only $5.84.

What the heck is the difference? I read the 24awg is thicker than 28awg, but is that actually going to mean anything performance wise? Also, is there any reason for those big dumb cylinders at each end of the 28awg cables?

I know everyone here says not to buy monster cable or anything else expensive, which is why I am looking at monoprice, so since most say hdmi is hdmi, can I buy the 28awg cable at monoprice for $5.84 and get the same exact performance as the 24awg for $17.93? If so, would seem kind of pointless for them to carry two cables with such a difference in price if there is no difference.

The more corpulent the cable is the better is the quality of the cable. The difference between AWG:s are so, more coppulent more better. I have tested several different cables with PS3 and Sony Full hd and the best price/quality relation has been in european hdmi manufacturer Zesta. Cables for 100% with different compinations which I have tested. However even Monstercable does not work fine with every device which is very odd as I speak. You should not stare at the price because usually there is many problems with the cheapest product. This is my advice.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by BrianEK View Post

I am looking at monoprice.com for a 6ft hdmi cable. I see there is a 24awg with "net jacket" priced at $17.93 but is not in stock. They also carry a 28awg w/ ferrite cores cable 6ft in stock for only $5.84.

What the heck is the difference? I read the 24awg is thicker than 28awg, but is that actually going to mean anything performance wise? Also, is there any reason for those big dumb cylinders at each end of the 28awg cables?

I know everyone here says not to buy monster cable or anything else expensive, which is why I am looking at monoprice, so since most say hdmi is hdmi, can I buy the 28awg cable at monoprice for $5.84 and get the same exact performance as the 24awg for $17.93? If so, would seem kind of pointless for them to carry two cables with such a difference in price if there is no difference.

28AWG cables are perfect for short direct connection between source devices and the television. However, if you are using an HDMI switch or A/V receiver with HDMI switching, we recommend using 24AWG. Switches tend to put a greater load on the signal passing through. This can lead to handshaking issues sometimes. The thicker 24AWG lowers signal resistance and helps compensate for this.


Ferrite cores are the cylindrical fixtures placed near the connectors to filter noise and high frequency interference.

The size of the ferrite need to be in proportion to the diameter of the cable in order to be effective. At 28AWG they are similar in size to the HDMI connector heads. On thicker gauges they would be significantly larger than the connector. Since the spacing between connections on the back of a device are based on the dimensions of the connectors being used, the ferrites would make connecting any other cable very difficult. The ferrites become unwielding and cumbersome so they have not been included on our heavier gauges. In general, the benefit of heavier gauge outweigh the benefit of the ferrites.
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