Originally Posted by nyco_ork
Without getting into questions of your motivation, as others have, my point is this: if someone is desperate for a machine, and the only other option is an eBay purchase with no warranty at all, then the 645 from B & H is one way for them to go.
Certainly, a U.S. warranty is desirable. I had to have my PRV 9200 serviced after 5 months, because the Line 1 input went bad. The B & H 90-day warranty would not have covered that repair. If, as you say, Pioneer USA won't even touch the unit, warranty or not, then that could be a real problem.
However, the third option (no recorder at all) is not so great if someone actually wants to do some recording.
I went ahead and took the chance. I can still get my 9200 serviced by Pioneer USA if anything happens to it; maybe, just maybe, I can talk Pioneer into servicing the other unit as well, if something goes wrong.
Thank you for not questioning my motivation and/or making assumptions
(as unfortunately, others have)......
Pioneer has stated that they will not provide service and/or support for units "not intended to sell in the US". There are significant "grey areas" here. Pioneer only provides parts and service related support to their own service centers or their authorized service center network.
So, who's actually doing the servicing (in or out of this so called "warranty")?
Are they competent and reliable? Will they gouge the price of the repair? How long will you be without it? How much will the shipping cost you? Where are the replacement parts coming from?......overseas?too many questions......not enough answers!
As to my "motivation" (re: attempting to sell Pioneer 640)......
As I have stated previously, I have a friend who recently took ill and has met with unforseen expenses related to his illness. He had purchased these units at an authorized dealer in March, 2007. They have almost full warranties on them. They are still sealed, as he didn't have an opportunity to use them. I am trying to help him out, while at the same time possibly helping out other members who need a Pioneer 640 and can't find one anywhere (other than taking major risks with e-bay). Since it could be considered inappropriate to provide too much detail here, I asked for members to send me a private message. Period, end of story
. My "motivation" is basically to try and help out an ill friend. Since there seems to be a big demand (and no supply) for these units, I didn't feel that it was inappropriate to mention it here. I also didn't think it would meet with such skepticism!
My opinions (re: avoiding these non-US models) are not being influenced by my desire to help my friend sell his units. I feel strongly that, at this price level, it's far too risky to invest in one of these overseas type units. It simply seemed like an appropriate time to mention that the option of getting an original 640 is still available.
The bottom line is, for the few that might consider spending $600-700.00 (or more) for either an e-bay potential nightmare or a non-US potential nightmare, this might be a good, practical alternative.
Again......if there are some non skeptics
out there (who are practical thinkers as well) and believe that it might make good sense
to purchase an original US 640 for even less
than a $700.00+ risk laden non-US unit, send me a private message.