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post #121 of 5061
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Originally Posted by JoeInNVa View Post

Note to self...Go Knock off Fed Ex Truck and take Tech's TV...


LOL well it's mid day and they haven't turned up yet, but they will, or maybe it's gone astray
post #122 of 5061
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

Good luck getting anywhere with a 172 pound box that's bulkier than Rosie O'Donnell coming from the buffet line!

I will just carry her by her mouth, since she cant shut it...
post #123 of 5061
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Originally Posted by Techaholic View Post

LOL well it's mid day and they haven't turned up yet, but they will, or maybe it's gone astray

If you see someone heisted a Fed Ex Truck tonight on the News, it was NOT me.
post #124 of 5061
Disclaimers first: I'm not a shutter bug, don't snap shots often and I don't own a regular or digital camera (or know anybody that has one or would be willing to lend it to me). The first four pictures were taken with a Mini-DV camera, captured digitally as TIFF files and the downconverted to JPEG. Unless noted you should assume the pictures from the images of the 747i look much sharper in person than they do here. All pictures after that were taken with the same camera but as digital pictures on a Memory Stick.

So, after one solid year reading and getting myself hyped-up about 1080p and high definition TV, what is the very first image I see on my new 747i with the ATSC tuner and an antenna?


Bummer! Luckily NBC was showing some HD golf at the same time. Even better, my new LCD is impervious to a well-lit room with a window right next to it (notice my 27" SD Sony and laptop in the background):


Picture-in-Picture with two 1080i OTA sources. Notice how squeezed and stretched the NBC golf PIP window is? That's because for that input I chose "Aspect"...


...instead of "Full Screen," which keeps the small PIP window (or the same-size one's when using Split-Screen) looking normal. Bottom line: when using PIP/Split-Screen make sure your display is on "Full Screen" (unless the stretched look of "Aspect" appeals to you).


Now for some high-def stuff.

"I Am Legend" (HD-DVD add-on on XBox 360):



"2001: A Space Odyssey" (same set-up):



"Lost" (OTA antenna):



For additional pictures of high-def cable content playing on the 747i click the following links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post13671620 (more HD-DVD and "Lost" pics)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post13657790
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post13659558.
post #125 of 5061
Nice photos dad1153, thanks.

T2k, I'd gladly up the 747i PDF for you...if I only knew how. Can this be done through the forums?

ALL, my "eggs" are gone. I haven't noticed the corner light bleed so I'm very pleased. Those of you getting the set, give it a break-in period of 4-5 days and I'd expect any "eggs" to disappear.

S!TH & dad1153, Does the ASPECT mode work properly for you two? The manual states that ASPECT is supposed to automatically adjust the screen depending on whether it's 4x3 or 16x9 content, but all it ever gives me with my SD DVDs is black bars on the side squishing 16x9 material. Am I doing something wrong?
post #126 of 5061
Here's some SD material as shown on the 747i:

"Deal or No Deal" (component 480i SD cable):

For additional pictures of standard definition content playing on the 747i (with some HD content mixed in for variety) click the following links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post13659391
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post13659833
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post13671798

"Amelie" (component 480p DVD on XBox 360 drive):

For additional pictures of DVD's playing on the 747i click the following links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post13692168
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post13692271

Genesis game (composite 480i):

For additional pictures of the Genesis playing on the 747i click the following links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post13743720
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post13743723

Super Nintendo game (S-Video 480i):

For additional pictures of the Super Nintendo playing on the 747i click the following links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post13743724
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post13743729

3DO game (S-Video 480i):

For additional pictures of the 3DO playing on the 747i click the following links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post13743752
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post13743755

Sega Saturn game (composite 480i):

For additional pictures of the Sega Saturn playing on the 747i click the following links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post13725634
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post13725635

Nintendo 64 game (S-Video 480i):

For additional pictures of the Nintendo 64 playing on the 747i click the following links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post13725635 (scroll past the first 3 Saturn pics)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post13725645
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post13741734 (Super Mario 64)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post13741739 (Mario Kart 64)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post13741742 (Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post13741745 (Tetrisphere)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post13741751 (Starfox 64)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post13741833 (Waverace 64)

Sega Dreamcast game (VGA cable):

For additional pictures of the Dreamcast playing on the 747i click the following links:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post13671924 (scroll past the XBox 360 screenshots)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post13671935

PlayStation 2 game (HDMI through 60GB PS3):

For additional pictures of PS1/PS2 games playing on the 747i click the following link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post13693952

No pictures of XBox 360 or PlayStation 3 games because this post is only for SD sources as they appear on the 747i after turning Game Mode on. With Game Mode not activated it will not be possible to see the older consoles signal on the 747i. You must first set the 747i to the input you plan to use (S-Video 1/2, Composite 1/2, etc.), the connect the system to the TV, activate Game Mode and only then turn the system w/game on for the TV to recognize and show audio/video. Game Mode also makes sure control is good-enough to make most games playable (with few exceptions like split-second games that require instantaneous response).

My system collection (PSP and PS3 boxes not pictured, pictures of PS3 games start on page #7 of this thread):
post #127 of 5061
Thread Starter 
dad1153, pics man.Nice collection you have there in the last one. It's great to see a fellow hardcore retro gamer here.I have the perfect solution for you to play your oldskool favs full screen&looking great without hassle......emulation via pc. All the systems you mentioned/last pic can be perfectly emulated via pc.I have everything emulated on my HTPC.....Nes,snes,gba,genesis,n64,ps1...you name it.For everything arcade from around 1980 up to 2002+ MAME32 is god.Everything is emulated fullscreen without the hassle of what you're dealing with plus additional enhancements+ depending on which emu you're using.I know there's nothin' like the real deal feel of a retro system but atleast this is a hassle free solution for ya.Ok,rather than hijack this thread into a irrelevant Emu thread pm me if you need anything/for more info.
post #128 of 5061
dad1153, Would it do any good to run the older systems through an A/V receiver and use it's output for the 747i? You talk about the inability to display older consoles as though you expected it to be the case, is this a known issue with HDTVs. What's the reason that older consoles aren't detected?
post #129 of 5061
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Originally Posted by RunOff View Post

Nice photos dad1153, thanks.

T2k, I'd gladly up the 747i PDF for you...if I only knew how. Can this be done through the forums?

You can attach file I believe.
If not, just upload here and post the DL link: http://bestsharing.com/
post #130 of 5061
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Originally Posted by RunOff View Post

dad1153, Would it do any good to run the older systems through an A/V receiver and use it's output for the 747i? You talk about the inability to display older consoles as though you expected it to be the case, is this a known issue with HDTVs. What's the reason that older consoles aren't detected?

Older consoles (anything before Dreamcast circa 1999) were coded exclusively with CRT sets in mind. Programmers often used tricks with the refresh rates and interlaced signals of the consoles/engines to push their hardware/software a little bit above average. Theoretically new HDTV's should accept any older console that outputs at least a 480i composite signal (same as basic consumer DVD players and VCR decks) since the manufacturers list this as a resolution that the sets support and upconvert to the panel's native HD resolution (720p, 1080i or 1080p). In practice 90% of people will hook a computer, XBox 360, PS3, Wii or post-2000 console (mainly the PS2) to their new flat screen because most of the population aren't hardcore gamers. Hence little interest in CE manufacturers to ensure compatibility with older consoles beyond the basic 480i minimum.

BTW gang, change of plans for tonight. I was going to hook up the XBox 360 and HD-DVD add-on to test it. But then I fired up the DVR to check on a couple of SD recordings ("The Price Is Right" on CBS and "Law & Order" on TNT) and my jaw dropped. Even though the cable box is outputting 1080i instead of 480i the upconversion that the 747i is doing with SD is good-enough to make me not miss the SD tube. I've been to enough showrooms showing "Law & Order" on TNT's stretch-o-vision to make me dizzy, but the SD recording from the SD TNT airings I saw today were as detailed as an LCD can render SD. It's not mouth watering sexy to talk about this set's SD performance when there's plenty of God-like HD sources still to explore. But good representation and smoothing of SD's rough edges is one of the reasons I went with the 747i and its Realta HQV, and so far I'm satisfied I made the right decision. So I'm taking the night off from HD and watching nothing but SD stuff. Sorry folks, there's a "Law & Order" marathon on TNT later tonight that beckons.
post #131 of 5061
Dad1153, don't you have your manual CD-ROM at handy by any chance? RunOff tried to send me a PM but my box was full (my membership was past due)...
post #132 of 5061
Never mind, I just got it - thanks again, RunOff!
post #133 of 5061
At the request of T2k, and for any others of you interested, I've uploaded the 747i manual to MediaFire for downloading. It's 35MB.

http://www.mediafire.com/?1zjtd2dzzoc
post #134 of 5061
Can anybody please post remote control codes for 747i and Scientific Atlanta 8300HD (for teh cable box remote to control teh TV and TV remote to control the cable box)?
post #135 of 5061
According to the manual these codes are 4002, 4023, 4024, 4025, or 4048.
post #136 of 5061
Wait, why the timing modes are only listed up to 1360x768 in the manual for DVI and VGA sources?

PS: perhaps because they already listed the panels max somewhere else as 1920x1080@60?
post #137 of 5061
Before purchasing this TV I went to the Olevia showroom in CA (it's 1.5 hrs drive from my home). They allowed me to hook my laptop and run a bunch of test patterns. The set looked perfect with no visible leakage or egg-shaped clouds, so I assume that it is not a fundamental flaw but a poor quality control and/or desire to sell substandard units. My egg patterns look similar to but not as bright as in S!THs pictures. In any case they are trivial to detect and unacceptable in a TV priced at this level. Somehow Vizio 47L managed to use the same panel with no widespread complains so far.

I have contacted Olevia tech support and am waiting for a reply.

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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

OK, that's four owners (dmkara, S!TH, RunOff and myself) reporting "eggs" and light leakage from the corners. Anyone want to bet Techaholic will be #5?

Surprisingly I don't find myself upset or in quick need of a replacement. Might change in a few days/weeks if the flaws get magnified but I cannot emphasize enough how NOT visible these "eggs" and light bleeds are when watching any content other than a very, very dark movie/TV show. Even then the screen would have to pitch dark for the "eggs" and lights to be visible, let alone distracting. Of course YMMV based on your set of criteria and tolerance for this sort of thing. Ohh, and I checked and double-checked my LCD with the ol' peepers and didn't find any visible or noticeable dead pixels. No bands whatsoever also: white, blue and green screens have filled the 47" set and not one has shown anything remotely resembling an "egg" or banding.

Just checked the video I took and it looks better than I thought. Time at work permitting I'll upload some pics from the video later tonight, the first batch of many as I delve further into the compatibility of the 747i with all sorts of unorthodox sources. Stay tuned!
post #138 of 5061
For some reason these codes don't work and I am looking for someone with similar equipment to confirm the problem.
Also, these codes are for the 747i remote. I would see if anyone has SA codes to control the TV, which is more convenient, because many DVR and PIP operations are available only from it.

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Originally Posted by RunOff View Post

According to the manual these codes are 4002, 4023, 4024, 4025, or 4048.
post #139 of 5061
dmkara, Those are the only codes I have from the 747i manual. I'm not sure where you would find codes to control the 747i using another universal remote.

Also, you may have missed some earlier posts, but the "eggs" seem to clear up in about 4 days or so. Give it a little bit and I bet yours will disappear too.

Of course if they don't we all want to hear about it.
post #140 of 5061
AHHHHHHHH! where oh where is my FedEx man..... Says the truck is stillout for delivery, I've been home all day waiting for this thing, now i'm getting P%$%^^

JoeInNVa
Note to self...Go Knock off Fed Ex Truck and take Tech's TV...

Joe you got my TV???
post #141 of 5061
Techaholic, I would give FedEx a call and see if you can't get better information than they have on the site. Sometimes they don't update the tracking system like they should. Ah FedEx.
post #142 of 5061
Good call RunOff, the ba$%rds took it back to the depot (only a half mile from my home), didn't even try to deliver it. So I took a whole day off work and now they will deliver it tomorrow.... this sucks
post #143 of 5061
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Originally Posted by dmkara View Post

Before purchasing this TV I went to the Olevia showroom in CA (it's 1.5 hrs drive from my home). They allowed me to hook my laptop and run a bunch of test patterns. The set looked perfect with no visible leakage or egg-shaped clouds, so I assume that it is not a fundamental flaw but a poor quality control and/or desire to sell substandard units. My egg patterns look similar to but not as bright as in S!THs pictures. In any case they are trivial to detect and unacceptable in a TV priced at this level. Somehow Vizio 47L managed to use the same panel with no widespread complains so far.

I have contacted Olevia tech support and am waiting for a reply.

This is good news, this means I would have a slight chance to get a perfect one... did you guys all order from buy.com?

Everybody, please post whether you have egg problem and if you do, where did you purchase your unit - thanks!
post #144 of 5061
Thread Starter 
The corners leakage is still there on mine.Plus, over last couple days it seems SD channels via the DirecTv H20 reciever look like crapola .I thought they were looking ok before.The Realta doesnt seem to be doing it's job now,wtf.I'm wondering if the H20 sat reciever may be at fault and overriding the Realta all of the sudden.I've switched between native/480i and native-off/1080i output with little-to-none difference.There doesnt seem to be any upconversion/cleaning-up being done at all.SD channels look like vcd/svcd quality with loads of artifacts & screen effect.I don't know wtf is going on now. Also, two things I've failed to mention before.1)After I got mine and peeled the protective film off the glass the bottom section was secured underneath the glass panel inside the bottom ledge where the glass panel was secured.Looks like some idiot threw the film on then assembled the front of the tv.I had to literally tear it out from underneath leaving some nice torn excess all along the bottom stuck inside.The only way to remove it is to remove the glass panel which I am not going to do.2)Something I was unsure of before.Seems the glass panel was secured a bit too low because the led light is only showing lower halfway through and the bottom left corner ledge is forced/bent down pretty bad.

I'm definitely having this one picked up later this week since I'm off work and guess I'll have to wait for Syntax to recieve it to send the new back.I'm definitely going to push for a newly manufactured model as replacement.

T2k, I ordered mine thru LaserTech.
post #145 of 5061
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Originally Posted by T2k View Post

Everybody, please post whether you have egg problem and if you do, where did you purchase your unit - thanks!

I got my 747i from a private seller with a perfetct record on eBay that says he got it from an Olevia giveaway, so I knew going in I was getting an earlier model panel. I already stated I have "eggs" but not see them outisde blank screens. Sorry to hear about your bad experience with FedEx Techaholic, my delivery was actually so quick I got the TV a day early.
post #146 of 5061
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

I got my 747i from a private seller with a perfetct record on eBay that says he got it from an Olevia giveaway, so I knew going in I was getting an earlier model panel. I already stated I have "eggs" but not see them outisde blank screens. Sorry to hear about your bad experience with FedEx Techaholic, my delivery was actually so quick I got the TV a day early.


Thx Dad, I told them to hold it, so I could pick it up myself, as not knowing when it's going to arrive means I would have to take another day off.
post #147 of 5061
So I have it in the back of my Tahoe hopefully will have it up and running 1t thing this evening.
post #148 of 5061
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Originally Posted by Techaholic View Post

So I have it in the back of my Tahoe hopefully will have it up and running 1t thing this evening.

Note to self, find Tahoe and steal it...
post #149 of 5061
Tried to call Syntax but it's impossible to get them on the phone - after 30 minutes I gave up... does anyone know what's the HDMI version and color gamut of this 747i?

BIG THANKS!
post #150 of 5061
Thread Starter 
All I can tell ya is HDMI V1.2 mang.Color gamut,no idea.




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Originally Posted by Techaholic View Post

So I have it in the back of my Tahoe hopefully will have it up and running 1t thing this evening.


-Hope your happy with your set Technaholic.If you have eggs,just give them a few days to boil out. I'm curious to know the manuf. date of your set.
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