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post #2431 of 5061
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Originally Posted by Nostromo View Post

Congratz Gladster !!!

OK a few questions ... when running this screen at 1920x1080 on your PC and you use say Power DVD Ultra fullscreen .... is the DVD being upconverted to 1080p ? and if so .... is it the computer doing the upconversion or the 747i ?

Depends if the program has upconversion built in. If you are playing a DVD in say windows media player, it just stretches to fit the screen, so it's better to use the lowest resolution you can so the tv will upconvert the rest of the way to 1080p. Power DVD Ultra might have built in upconversion though that handles better scaling of the dvd than windows media player, which there's a good chance it does.

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Originally Posted by Lion729 View Post

I am new to the forum since I just got my 747i last monday. Can anyone tell me how to disconnect the speakers from the bottom of the screen?

I believe there are screws on the bottom-back of the TV that attaches the mounting bracket to the speakers?
post #2432 of 5061
Thud2 the remote , if you get around it works bitchen . You have to set up the remote as discrete input , even though the set's remote isn't like that , the tv will accept discrete , so you set it up for it and it will work . When I hit "watchdvd" it will go to component1 and set up my av receiver . When I hit "watchtv1 " It will go to tuner2 and set up the av receiver . When I hit "watchtv2 " It goes straight to svideo1 and turn on my satellite and set up my av receiver ......................... Look at the page before and you could read the same .........................
post #2433 of 5061
It sounds like when I'm setting up an "activity" when it asks me whether the remote for the set scrolls or has individual keys I have to select the other option for sets that have buttons for each input. Is this right? Please, can you tell me specifically how you set the remote up to do this?
post #2434 of 5061
Lion, there are four brackets attaching the speakers to the set. Each of the brackets is attached to the set with two phillips screws and the speaker unit with two phillips screws. With the speaker unit supported (I tied a loop of twine around each end of the set) and the speaker wires disconnected at the set, unscrew the top two screws on each bracket that are screwed into the SET (not the bottom screws that go into the speakers, the brackets are taken away with the speaker unit). I saved the speakers in case I want to sell the set in the future. Who's gonna buy a TV with no sound?
post #2435 of 5061
Smick, you get the "EEP!" too!? No major problem but I thought it was just me Sounds like you have to wake the hamster an get em on the treadmill
post #2436 of 5061
Livewire hows GTA IV?
post #2437 of 5061
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Originally Posted by Thud2 View Post

Livewire hows GTA IV?

Meh, they shipped from separate locations so I don't have it yet. Got Mario Kart on Friday, but GTA IV isn't here until monday :'(. I was so excited when my package got here because I REALLY want to play GTA IV, but it was only Mario Kart. But if it's even half as good as the reviews say, I'll be happy. Average critic score of 9.8 is pretty good I'd say lol...
post #2438 of 5061
Your right, all you have to do is when they ask you during setup whether the 747 remote has separate buttons for each input check yes and it can access all the inputs by making "Activities" on the remote. Also the names to choose Tuner 1 and Tuner 2 are reversed. You have to choose Tuner 2 to get Tuner 1 and vice versa. All the other input names are right. I was so wrong. This remote is going to do all that I wanted. Thanks for all the help!
post #2439 of 5061
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Originally Posted by Thud2 View Post

Livewire hows GTA IV?

The graphics SUCK!! Don't believe Microsoft when they say certain games run at certain resolutions. Most of them have to be upscaled, with the exception of Virtua Tennis 3, which DOES happen to run natively at 1080P.

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Originally Posted by dad1153; View Post

Visually component and HDMI cables offer identical on-screen performance. The signal might be better shielded from interference and benefit from being 100% digital on HDMI (as opposed to analog on component) but it won't look better than an equivalent component cable. I tested the component and HDMI connections coming from my SA-8300 HD-DVR and saw no difference whatsoever (so I stuck with component). I have my SA-8300 set to 1080i permanently (480i is upscaled to 1080i by the box and that is sent to the 747i) because the difference between doing that and having the SA-8300 pass 480i directly to the set was so minimal it didn't matter which one I chose. The reason I went 1080i always is that it speeds the channel changing but your Motorola box (my SA-8300 is a Pioneer box) might be built differently. Test with and w/o 480i overide (using a good SD channel) and see if it makes a difference noticeable enough to bother you into leaving it the way it was or changing it.

I don't know man. I just got around to hooking up my 360 to the 747i and it looked better on my 32" 1080i set than it does on this set at 1080P with component. I'm thinking I might need to find a way to get an hdmi 360. Thing is, all I need is the system itself with out everything else. (wires, power supply, controllers, etc.) I'm SURE there is a major difference in how it will look. Now don't get it twisted, it looks great, but the 360 dashboard at 1080P with component looks really shadowy. I noticed the same effect with the PS3 on component too.
post #2440 of 5061
Generally games will look better on smaller screens than larger ones if your at closer distances and I've always heard that HDMI or DVI is cleaner signal than Component.
post #2441 of 5061
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Originally Posted by Thud2 View Post

Generally games will look better on smaller screens than larger ones if your at closer distances.

The thing is, it pisses me off when these game boxes say that these games run in certain resolutions, when all they do is run upscaled at these resolutions (GTA 4), not natively (VT3)

I can accept games like Bioshock running upscaled, but at least they give you the option of running in 60 fps mode. But of course, you take a hit in the graphics dept.
post #2442 of 5061
I've tried searching through this thread, and I've probably missed this somewhere, but:

Why doesd the '1:1' aspect mode not fill the screen? I have my DVDO processor set to output 1920x1080, my PS3 set to output 1920x1080, and my 360 set to 1920x1080. If the panel is 1920x1080, then the entire screen should be filled in 1:1 mode, should it not? My previous 1080p set worked perfectly in this manner.
post #2443 of 5061
For those of you with a SA 8300HD (PVR in my case), the remote code for the TV is "432". Not sure if different providers have different remotes for this box (as I've heard that the remotes aren't necessarily the same from provider to provider), but that's the code used for Videotron (Quebec). Not too much extra functionality other than power, volume, and source button. It's not listed in the manual - I had to cycle through each one untill it hit it...
post #2444 of 5061
I'm happy to report that my credit card statement has an entry for the $100 credit. The entry appears as 'SYX*TIGERDIRECT.COM 800-888-4437 FL -$100.00' without the quotes. It appears their "Price Guarantee" is legit
post #2445 of 5061
Does anyone know if my purchase from TD on 3/28/08 is eligible for the $100 credit?

It didn't hit me the price was reduced until a co-worker told me after I recommended the set to him recently.
post #2446 of 5061
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Originally Posted by Thud2 View Post

Lion, there are four brackets attaching the speakers to the set. Each of the brackets is attached to the set with two phillips screws and the speaker unit with two phillips screws. With the speaker unit supported (I tied a loop of twine around each end of the set) and the speaker wires disconnected at the set, unscrew the top two screws on each bracket that are screwed into the SET (not the bottom screws that go into the speakers, the brackets are taken away with the speaker unit). I saved the speakers in case I want to sell the set in the future. Who's gonna buy a TV with no sound?

Thanks for the info. After looking at the speakers and the back of the set further, it looks like that the brackets can attach to the side of the set. Could it be that the brackets that attach to the bottom will fit the cut out on the sides.
post #2447 of 5061
Bad news guys. A couple of weeks ago I started noticing something that appeared to be banding on the right side of my 747i. I noticed it because it started to be visible to me during some programming (mostly outdoor stuff or shots with lots of sky/ocean) but I decided to wait a couple of weeks to make sure. Now its official: my 747i has developed, after 14 months of steady use (95% of it at Medium setting), some 'banding' on the right side of the screen! In the two weeks since I noticed the banding its become a little more pronounced, enough that I can now see it in golf events or even movies (like "The Fly" on Blu-ray, a flick set mostly in dark interiors) whenever the camera pans from side to side. I'm not a videophile that demands 100% screen perfection (and understand that LCD technology has its shortcomings) but knowing the line of banding is there has become an intermitent distraction. Here's a pic I took of the PS3 game "Heavenly Sword" that shows the right banding at its most visible (camera moving and the background a certain shade of gray):



By contrast here's what my 747i looked like in March of '07 when I took a picture of a gray screen to see if I had banding as bad as the Sharp LCD's from that era:



The only potential cause for this new banding is that about two months ago I decided to start watching/playing SD material in 4x3 square mode again after going almost a year stretching SD material to fit the entire screen. So maybe that right band is caused by the line where a 4x3 image is black (or gray in my case) and leaves an imprint on plasmas. What makes me question this being the cause of the new band is that the left side of my Olevia 747i hasn't developed any banding even though both sides of the screen experienced the borders of 4x3 material. I'm going to start running SD material stretched again to see if this takes/minimizes away the banding on the right side, but it could take weeks (or never) for the banding to go away or disipate.

A friend came over to visit and he didn't notice the banding line until I pointed it to him, and even then he said I was making a big deal. While I agree that the deficiency is mostly in my head (the 747i remains a good deal and still performs as good as advertised) I'm worried that this banding showed up a little over a year after I purchased the 747i. I can live with the one line of banding on the right, but what if another line shows up on the left? And another? And another? While I've always championed the 747i as an excellent HDTV my enthusiasm has been dampened a little by this sudden flaw I didn't see coming... literally!
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While I'm posting pictures here are a few of my man cave, the one I didn't want thebesthereis to see in person but for some reason I don't mind the world seeing on the net. Go figure!

Last night's "SNL," "Sega Rally Revo/DOA4 Demo" & my dump:








Last night's "Saturday Night Live" (OTA) and "Uncharted" (PS3) on PIP split-screen:



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"Sega Rally Revo" (XBox 360):






"Heavenly Sword" (PS3):




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That sucks dad1153 , in that picture (the first 1 ) the banding is evident . On the others I don't see it . Sometimes when I watch something that is 4.3 and then it switches to 16.9 (comercial to show ) it leaves a line where the side pillars were . But I switch to something else or wait a little and it goes away , I think it's from the source (cable ) But nothing like the first pic . Sorry man , What if you tried the firm upgrade ?????? Well it has to say it helps with banding , right ????? the fix ???? Anyways , like your pad , wish I could be free and live like that ....................................
post #2451 of 5061
^^^ You mean like a pig that loves to cover himself in his own filth? Yep, lucky me! Firmware updates to TV's can't fix a physical defect on the build of the set/screen, which is what banding is: a flaw in the design of the glass. Sony firmware updates for the XBR2/3 (back when those sets were at the height of the 'cloud' problems that sent the LCD forums on edge) only adjusted the color of the screen to try to hide the problem, not correct it. I may upgrade the 747i firmware but only if things get worse, like a 2nd line of banding shows up or the one currently barely-visible gets thicker and/or more noticeable. Even then the firmware is unlikely to do more than apply a darker/lighter shade of light brightness to mask the bands, not eliminte them. It took a year and a half of the 747i working flawlessly but I can now say I know what people that ordered faulty Sharp LCD's with banding back in 2006/07 felt like the moment they turned their brand-new HDTV's on.
post #2452 of 5061
Is the glass of the 747 sharps ????? I think it is on the 265 right ????? I don't know about these . Talking about clouding , you shoul see my samsung slimfit , I have the 27" version , so the geometry problems aren't bad , but the clouding is rediculous , and it's a crt .............. I should've kept my 32" trinitron that tv was good ............... Gimnasia 2 - River 1 , I don't know if to laugh or cry ....................
post #2453 of 5061
I'm watching the same game on PIP with the Player's Golf Championship on NBC. River has turned it around in the 2nd half and is now winning 3-2 but anything can still happen...




EDIT: River wins 4-2. Comeback anyone? Soccer's over, so back to full-time PGA Golf on NBC:






post #2454 of 5061
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Originally Posted by vballrules View Post

I'm happy to report that my credit card statement has an entry for the $100 credit. The entry appears as 'SYX*TIGERDIRECT.COM 800-888-4437 FL -$100.00' without the quotes. It appears their "Price Guarantee" is legit

LEGIT!?! They told me they would not credit my credit card but only give me $100 in "TIGER BUCKS" That sucks that they would not credit everyone. We need to call them on a 3 way phone call so that after you stop talking, I can then chime in with, "Where is MY $100 credit?! That's not fair."
post #2455 of 5061
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Originally Posted by JoDo1 View Post

Does anyone know if my purchase from TD on 3/28/08 is eligible for the $100 credit?

It didn't hit me the price was reduced until a co-worker told me after I recommended the set to him recently.

So long as you paid/bought the set within 30 days of the price reduction, you should be entitled to it, according to their price matching/adjustment policy. Just call them with your order number and tell them to ante up the cash. I hope they don't stiff you like they did me. Well, not EXACTLY stiff me, but, hold me $100 hostage.
post #2456 of 5061
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Originally Posted by Lion729 View Post

Thanks for the info. After looking at the speakers and the back of the set further, it looks like that the brackets can attach to the side of the set. Could it be that the brackets that attach to the bottom will fit the cut out on the sides.

It won't fit unless you have the speaker side mounting speaker kit. BUT, they are discontinued.
post #2457 of 5061
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

^^^ You mean like a pig that loves to cover himself in his own filth? Yep, lucky me! Firmware updates to TV's can't fix a physical defect on the build of the set/screen, which is what banding is: a flaw in the design of the glass. Sony firmware updates for the XBR2/3 (back when those sets were at the height of the 'cloud' problems that sent the LCD forums on edge) only adjusted the color of the screen to try to hide the problem, not correct it. I may upgrade the 747i firmware but only if things get worse, like a 2nd line of banding shows up or the one currently barely-visible gets thicker and/or more noticeable. Even then the firmware is unlikely to do more than apply a darker/lighter shade of light brightness to mask the bands, not eliminte them. It took a year and a half of the 747i working flawlessly but I can now say I know what people that ordered faulty Sharp LCD's with banding back in 2006/07 felt like the moment they turned their brand-new HDTV's on.

Hey dad1153, I'm thinking maybe because you were an early adopter, this problem might have been fixed in later sets. Back when this thread was first started, do you remember when exactly how long you had your set before then and what the release date was for this set also? Maybe if you can contact some other early adopters to see if they've encountered any thing similar. Also, how much burn time go you give this set? Since you've had it, do you feel that you've had the set running equivalent to more like 3 or 4 years?
post #2458 of 5061
Actually I've used the 747i a little less than I would had I not kept the Trinitron CRT tube around for extended SD viewing. Its on an average of 5-6 hours daily (twice as more on Sundays during NFL season) which should be normal considering the advertised lifetime of the lamps. I bought the 747i when it was just released back in March of '07, so it went for 14 months without banding. If any of the original owners come back (most of them don't post as frequently as I do because they're smart-enough to actually watch their TV's instead of writing/snapping pics of them) I sincerely hope they can share with us whether they've experienced any banding recently or before. Again, maybe its just my 747i showing banding because I recently switched to 4x3 SD viewing and that left a thick line that has left an imprint. I'll keep an eye out for it (can't help seeing it now!) and post about it here.
post #2459 of 5061
Further to my original post, the noise I get from the set is from my motorola 2524 cable box (and I have tried 2 of them!) running through the s-video and 2 rca audio inputs, my dvd players do not exhibit this - can anyone else with this basic type of cable box confirm if they get any noise? i will be upgrading to a hd box soon, as long as it isnt the tv...

also, I hooked my original xbox to the tv through the 5 plug component jacks and saw some equally spaced light purple banding in some games, hooked it up to my old sony crt with the same cable, saw nothing... am I to put the tv into game mode to resolve this issue? Has anyone else experienced this?

Finally, I had a goose honk like noise eminating from the speakers - I think it was just the speaker vibrating against the frame at certain harmonics - woody harrelsons voice in no country for old men was a big problem - so I had to put a small piece of foam between the speakers and where they go up against the tv stand frame - hopefully that will solve it...

jeez, i hope I didnt get stuck with a lemon here.
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dad:
that really sucks about the banding, and you're not under warranty, eh? Oh and it's nice to see someone else in this world besides me that actually enjoys watching golf, I get a lot of **** from friends for liking it lol...

thebestthereis:

yeah it's true the graphics in gta iv are not as high as quality as some of the newer games, BUT that is because of how enormous the city is, so it's understandable that the graphics can't be that superb as the consoles would not be able to run it at a steady frame rate.
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