~Official Olevia 747i/742i owners thread - Page 2

Post no. 15 above has a link regarding dual QAM tuners(on pages 1 and 2 of 3). I have seen it in a few other articles also. I am link challenged right now. 3 post and climbing!

The article refers to dual digital tuners and does not mention QAM. They are listed as Dual ATSC/NTSC tuners on the Olevia web site as well. I was under the impression a QAM tuner is different than a Dual ATSC/NTSC tuner, which this series has. I have seen sets with QAM list their tuners as ATSC/NTSC & QAM Digital Television Tuners in their specifications page. I am new to this so I may be wrong but I thought QAM is different than ASTC.

Aaaaannnnd, VIOLA!



As soon as I get it setup I'll post more images of the 747i in action.

Talk about new. You have twice as many post as me. You are correct in that ATSC/NTSC are not the same as QAM. The article says it has 2 ATSC/NTSC tuners and 2 HDTV Digital tuners. I am 99% sure these are the QAM tuners. UltimateAV magazine has a review of the 747i. They say what I have been trying to say. Here is a quote ... "The 747i also includes two onboard, over-the-air, Clear QAM ATSC/NTSC tuners. You can display two HD stations simultaneously. "

Hey RunOff,
Your last post was at 9:52 AM o'clock in the morning. That was over 3 Hours ago ... which is about a week in forum time. I really like coming back and lookin' at the box but enough is enough already. I am deeply sorry if you dropped/broke your camera but hurry up and get another one.
Just a little humour regards,
Signed,
Anxious

Now I can post a link! Whew...

...working on the wall mount...this thing is HEAVY...sorry for the delay, I'll get some up tonight...

how does the ps3 look on this in 1080p.

I hope he didn't drop it while mounting...

RunOff,

I called Olevia to see if Buy.com was one of their dealers and they said no...that they have never sent any 747's to them. So is there anything on the box that would indicate that Buy.com might have gotten it from someone else? I don't think it makes that much of a difference. Olevia will probably still stand behind it. And the price looks to be pretty good.
I just have a bias for buying from authorized resellers. There's a dealer in my area that's got it, but I don't think he can compete with e-tailers.

Is the bezel matte or glossy?

My living room has a fair amount of natural light. I have a 30" LG LCD in another room. While the screen looks fine with a little bit of light on it, the glossy bezel reflects sunlight directly into my eyes! Doesn't having a highly reflective surface surrounding the screen defeat one of the good features of an LCD... a matte screen?

A week in forum time?

Thanks. I couldn't tell in the pictures I've seen of it.

I'm still new here. It's probably on 2 to 3 days in forum time .... it just feels like a week because I am a newbie. He made me start slobberin'/droolin' at 9:52 AM o'clock this mornin' ... and then he just disappeared. No, I think RunOff run off!
Takin' deep breaths!

Waiting patiently regards,
WAH

Thanks all for your patience. Rumors of my drowning in my own anticipatory sweat have been greatly exaggerated.

I'm very happy with the 747i thus far. The upscaling of SD DVD content is amazing. It even did a great job with the recent GOUT version of Star Wars.

Here's what I've got for now. I've found that it's pretty difficult to photograph nice images on a black TV in a really dark room, but I think there's still some good stuff here.

Thank You monoprice for an inexpensive but extremely sturdy wall mount:


Here's a shot of a NO SIGNAL screen. You may be able to see the egg shapes mentioned by S!TH. I find they don't distract during normal viewing...so far:


The SD DVD of CARS, output at 480i via HDMI from my Oppo 970HD. This film, as you might expect being Digital to Digital...Looks Incredible! (pun intended). My friend who came over to help me mount the TV exclaimed when he saw the CARS DVD, "That's got to be HD!" It really looks that good, this photo just can't do it justice. I might try for a better one later:


I haven't figured out how to get a good shot of the OSD yet, but you might be able to make out that the 747i is reporting a 576i signal. That's my R2 PAL copy of OLDBOY from the UK. I thought I'd give it a shot and yes indeed the TV will accept the true PAL signal without PAL>NTSC conversion. Nice bonus not mentioned in the posted specs:


A shot from tonight's LOST. So far the built in OTA antenna works very well. It pulls stronger signals OTA than my LG3200 DTV box did:


Looking through a window?:





So, there's some images. I haven't even really had the chance to tweak settings and such. I 've done a little, but there are so many more options to explore. I'm pretty pooped, it's been an exciting day.

Oh, and I can't comment as to the quality of the PS3 (I'd assume it looks amazing). I opted for a Wii:

You've done well RunOff, you may sleep now!

That benefit of accepting PAL playback is something that you'd only hear on AVS Forum from a user because the big websites/magazines don't want to encourage the import of discs. BTW, I see a regular XBox on your entertainment set. The XBox DVD playback is 480i (progressive play was left out early) with the remote/kit so if you want to try hooking DVD's and regular Xbox games to test the de-interlacing of older systems on the 747i I'd appreciate it. Also, any lag when playing the Wii on the 747i? Did you switch the TV to videogame mode to minimize TV processing? Any sign the TV's 8m response time is inadequate or lacking? Is that a composite signal (the letters/edges look very noisy) or component from the Wii to the TV? And how about the blacks on the screen: passable, mediocre, bad? They look fine in pictures but it might be a whole other thing when viewed in person.

Can that blue light in the center of the TV be turned off? And just how heavy was this mofo to carry around? Thanks for indulging us with pictures. When I get mine I will mostly test it with my Xbox 360 for games, HD-DVD add-on and regular DVD's via the TV's VGA input. I'd be curious to see if the 360's 1080p VGA signal can be displayed on the 747i without processing to minimize processing flaws.

Guys, couple of new questions. I keep hearing how great 480i signals passed through HDMI look on the 747i because of the HQV Realta processing. None of my gear has an HDMI output. Can the 747i accept component 480i signals from a DVD player and still process the signal so its displayed with minimal disruption on the 747i? Or does the connection have be digital for the Realta chips to do their thing? I have a lot of composite-only devices I want to try (Sega Saturn, SNES, regular VHS player, etc.) but I'm not holding much hope they will look more than barely-passable. If component 480i from a regular DVD player can made to look as good as HDMI though that'd save me a few hundred bucks.

Second, does this HDTV come with the conversion kit to hook the bottom-mounted speakers on the side already on the box? In RunOff's box picture above I kind-of see that as a bullet point toward the bottom of the TV's good points. Just curious because if possible I'd like to mount the speakers sideways for better sound acoustics right away. Runoff, any opinions on the sound quality of the 747i's built-in speakers?

Is that a pooch I see sleeping to the right?


So much for S!TH getting a lemon unit. This seems to be an issue with the manufacturing of this particular brand/model. Oh well, if it isn't as bad as the Sharp bands or the Sony/Samsung clouds I can learn to live with it. RunOff, any sight of that "egg" during an all-black scene like the closing credits of a movie or a "emptiness of space" scene in "Star Wars" or "Aliens"?

Hmmm, I don't know about the DVD output of the XBOX. Are you interested in hearing about 480i via Component? My standalone DVD player is outputting 480i, just via HDMI. I have tested some older XBOX games on the 747 and the upscaling is pretty good. As with all things...depends on the source. I don't have a 360 or PS3 to compare to, but I feel confident in saying that the upscaling of XBOX games isn't going to come close to true 1080 output from either of the big next gen consoles. I don't know that 480i via Component is going to be that different from HDMI. There are those that argue the difference is negligible. I would suggest that if you are happy with the performance of your standalone player to begin with, don't upgrade just yet and use the 480i via Component of your current player. HQV will do it's thing either way, it doesn't require a digital signal via HDMI. The job of the HQV chipset is to take every signal you throw at it via Component, Composite, S-VIDEO, OTA ANT, HDMI, VGA, and make sure that each signal is properly de-interlaced and scaled to the native 1080p of the set.

I have noticed lag in the Wii Channels. Not so much in actual gameplay. I haven't gone in to tweak the sensitivity of the sensor bar or play with GAME MODE yet. Actually, I did turn on GAME MODE and I did not like the results visually. I intend to go back and see if I can edit specific settings within GAME MODE to get it looking nicer.

The blacks are absolutely acceptable to me. But then I'm a guy that, until this morning, had merely a 32" 4x3 CRT. I've never owned an HDTV until now, so I'm still a bit stupefied.

Um, I believe that, Yes the blue light can be turned off. I'll have to check that.

This thing is heavy, no joke. It helped to take off the base, bringing it down to ~125lbs. It does, however, have excellent hand holds on the back of the unit. They look like little plastic panels on the lower back near the base mounting points, but if you poke them they collapse to reveal hand holds. Very nice.

Oh, and here's a bit of advice for anyone expecting one of these in the future. I was so excited when I unpacked the TV that I plugged it in...turned it on and...nothing happened. I failed to notice that there's a hardware toggle switch near the AC adapter plug. I couldn't find a mention in the manual, but it's there, and once flipped the TV came on just as it should.

The 747i does not come with a conversion kit to side mount the speakers. You must buy it direct from Olevia's website. It ain't cheap. I have no idea what could make it so expensive, but it is. I'm quite impressed with the built in speakers. They are powerful and provide a nice wide sound field, at least in my smallish room. I only use them for OTA and the Wii at the moment.

Thanks!

The 742i model was always scheduled to come a few months after the 747i when they were announced for late last year. Since the 47" sets are just making it now to online stores (and soon into retail establishments) the 42" sets should be out in a couple of months. Sorry!

any banding or clouding?

and where did you get it from? Im thinking about buy.com

Nice pictures RunOff!! Have you noticed picture quality decreasing when viewing "off center" in horz/vert positions? If so what is your observatoin?

disclaimer: I have never owned another HDTV so I have no basis for comparison...BUT, I haven't noticed any banding or clouding. The only thing that is definitely visible when viewing a completely blank NO SIGNAL screen in a very dark room are the two egg shapes near the center (see photo). I haven't had the chance for casual viewing yet, but I intend to keep an eye on those eggs and see if they distract. The set came from Olevia.

ltkjr, once again I must disclaim that this is my first experience with an LDC television...BUT I haven't noticed a decrease in picture quality when viewed "off center" yet. In fact, my wife asked me at one point what was the big deal with watching from the sides (I've been giving her the play-by-play as the reviews have trickled out) as she thought the picture looked just fine from her spot on the side of the room. Now, I don't have a particularly big room, but after having wall mounted the set I've got about 10-11 feet to the center position on my couch. Any other position on the couch or in the loveseat which is against the wall perpendicular to the couch and probably about 6-7 feet away were fine for viewing.

Thanks RunOff. Your response just put the the 747i on top of my "buy" list!

Exciting to hear ltkjr. Like I say, hopefully S!TH will respond to your queries too, as he's the only current owner here who has experience with several other LCD HDTVs. But my response so far is overwhelmingly positive. I can see that the black levels are not spectacular, but they are fine for my purposes. Also, just know that the menu takes some getting used to. I won't go so far as to say it's terrible, let's just say that it's got a learning curve. I've had to treat it like one of my video games, it's not a "control scheme" that I'm used to so I'm having to figure out how best to navigate and where certain options are tucked away. Cool idea, I look forward to it's evolution 'cause it's not quite there yet.

The ace-in-the whole of this set is the video processing from Silicon Optix. Realta HQV is all that it's cracked up to be. I have a large library of Standard Def DVDs and I won't be making the transition to HD home formats for a while, so this set has the best of both worlds as far as I'm concerned. It's a beautiful 1080p set ready for HD when I get around to it, and until that time it makes my SD content look wonderful.