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post #1501 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Rocka2 View Post

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Update: Still not working. I tried it again but do not know what to do after I re-muxed my entire .mpg file with videoredo and saved it as a .ts file and updated my Nero 8 Ultra to the latest a version. The video from the Blu-ray that resulted still froze every few seconds. The video input I am using in videoredo was originally a high defenition .tivo file that I cut the commercials out of before saving as an .mpg. What the heck do I need to do? Surely some are able to burn MPEG2 onto Blu-ray without it stuttering. I can make HD-DVD from these files very easily though I have no HD-DVD burner and have to burn it to regular DVD. I wanted to record to Blu-ray for its capacity like the original poster mentions in the original post of this thread. I could not find the correct information for this process in the twenty or so pages of this thread I tried looking? Could someone please help me a little? I will be very grateful. What do you do? Thank you.

Go into VideoReDo and select under tools (I think) "view video program information". The words may not be exactly that since I'm not at my video processor right now so I can't look at VideoReDo.

Append the information you find there. Since you said TiVo file, I wonder if the video datarate is above 40mbps? If it is, when you do a "Save as", save the file as a .ts and under "options" (in the save as) select a video rate of 40M. It won't change the video, just the header.

Either way, please append what VideoReDo says for the program information for the .ts file you created.
post #1502 of 2482
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Originally Posted by alk3997 View Post

Go into VideoReDo and select under tools (I think) "view video program information". The words may not be exactly that since I'm not at my video processor right now so I can't look at VideoReDo.

Append the information you find there. Since you said TiVo file, I wonder if the video datarate is above 40mbps? If it is, when you do a "Save as", save the file as a .ts and under "options" (in the save as) select a video rate of 40M. It won't change the video, just the header.

Either way, please append what VideoReDo says for the program information for the .ts file you created.

Thank you alk3997 I will try this.


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Originally Posted by MozartMan View Post

Does anybody have Nero 8 with Blu-ray plugin to try the trick that I did with Ulead DMF6+ to author MPEG-2 as AVCHD on DVD5/9 with menus and without re-encoding.

My PDF guide for DMF6+ is attached to this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post13065746

I have Nero 8 with Blu-ray plugin and I will try this as soon as I get some time and after I try to get MPEG2 to work on Blu-ray first. I still have not succeeded at that. The video stutters.
post #1503 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Rocka2 View Post

I have Nero 8 with Blu-ray plugin and I will try this as soon as I get some time and after I try to get MPEG2 to work on Blu-ray first. I still have not succeeded at that. The video stutters.

Thanks Rocka,

But I already got Blu-ray plugin for Nero 8. The trick works.
post #1504 of 2482
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Originally Posted by MozartMan View Post

Thanks Rocka,

But I already got Blu-ray plugin for Nero 8. The trick works.


Though I have not used it yet, thank you MozartMan for your guide. I did not know about Blu-ray, but I guess the the only way to record MPEG2 without compression on Blu-ray is with this trick? I am still feeling confused, you replace which files with which? I am totally inexperienced when it comes to Blu-ray. I am definately wanting to record uncompressed MPEG2 on Blu-ray and I see on my Ulead Moviefactory 6 Plus that AVCHD is only available with regular DVD so I guess the files that are replaced are the Blu-ray ones with the uncompressed AVC files or have I got something wrong?
post #1505 of 2482
ARRANGING SUBTITLES

In tsMuxer 1.8.4, under the Subtitles Menu, there are options for: FONT, FONT SIZE and COLOR.

There is also a Vertical and Horizontal Positioning section, but only the “bottom of screen” bottom offset pixels window is operative (all of the other options are grayed out)
The Default setting for the bottom offset pixels is 16. Changing it first to 8 and then burning a second disc with this setting to 48 didn’t make any difference. The location of the subs are centered Vertically, left of center Horizontally. Manually changing the Font (default is supposed to be Times Roman) to Avalon and increasing the size had no effect either. The burned disc comes back to the original Font, size and location.

I’m trying to move the subtitles to their normal position (centered Horizontally and lower Vertically). This is the second time I’ve encountered a movie file with subs being in the “middle of the screen”, distracting and difficult to read.

Apparently, I’m missing something.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ben
post #1506 of 2482
Shoot. I found out I think I can do what I want to do (record MPEG2 to Blu-ray disc without re-encoding) if I just use Ulead Moviefactory 6 Plus and select BDMV. I am trying it now.
post #1507 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Rocka2 View Post

Shoot. I found out I think I can do what I want to do (record MPEG2 to Blu-ray disc without re-encoding) if I just use Ulead Moviefactory 6 Plus and select BDMV. I am trying it now.

Does tsmuxer not work for you?
post #1508 of 2482
Actually Ulead did not work. I was wanting to record onto Blu-ray disc without re-encoding. Is it just me or do I seem to be making this more difficult than it really is. I will have to try tsmuxer.
post #1509 of 2482
I see that this thread is fairly old, yet pretty active, so I thought I'd look for some help here. I am very new to blu-ray authoring, and am learning the hard way, and am having some frustrating problems considering I am seeing good success from other members...

What I am esssentially trying to do is to archive some HD content (sports events) from my Tivo S3 to BD-R discs. I have downloaded the content as mpeg2 files to my pc, bought and installed VideoRedo TV Suite and Ulead MovieFactory 6+ with the HD add on (installed it correctly, with the patch b4 the hd addon, then updated DX9c). But what is happening is after I extract the .mpg from the .tivo file, every disc I burn, the video studders and the audio is off sync by about 5 seconds at the beginning, and gets worse as it plays.

The source is from the NFL network, 1920x1080, about 8 gigs. VideoRedo shows 10 audio frame errors when it completes the conversion, yet both the .tivo and the .mpg files play PERFECTLY in WMP on the PC, as well as in the preview windows in the Ulead BD Burner 2.7. PC is, BTW, XP Pro Media Center w/SP3 , Quad-core 3ghz Extreme proc, 4gigs, 300g 10k sata for OS, 500g 7200 RAID1 for data, LG GGW-H20L burner). I tried extracting as .ts, and while I haven't tried burning, the preview in the BD Burner shows studdering and artifacts.

I tried running the .mpg through the VRD stream fix (I forget what it's called) and I still get the same behavior.

The REALLY strange part is that I have one .tivo file (that big game in Feb) which I split in two and extraced as .mpg, and it burns perfectly (thank God, at least I have that) but it is 1280x720... Now I do change DMF settings to match the resolution of the source, but that has no effect.

Sorry for the long post, but I've already burned 5 coasters before I got my delivery of BD-RE's. At least now I can keep trying w/o frying $9 each failed attempt.

Am I using the wrong software? It looks like VRD and DMF are the two most popular apps, but considering I don't care to burn to standard DVD's, is there something better I should be looking at? Or am I missing some setting?

HELP - Before I go insane

Thanks
post #1510 of 2482
I'm thinking of getting in to blu-ray burning as well is there a authoring program
you can drop in 1080i mpeg2 ts files or ps files and burn like a dvd?
or has blu-ray software not gotten there yet?
post #1511 of 2482
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Originally Posted by dargo View Post

I'm thinking of getting in to blu-ray burning as well is there a authoring program
you can drop in 1080i mpeg2 ts files or ps files and burn like a dvd?

or has blu-ray software not gotten there yet?

Read my guide from page 38:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post13065746
post #1512 of 2482
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Originally Posted by MozartMan View Post

Read my guide from page 38:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post13065746

so the answer is no?
nice guide but for dvd I can simply drop in a mpeg2 file
and with no menu or anything with TMPGEnc dvd author
boom got a dvd that will play in anything no messing with files or settings
guess blu-ray for home authoring is still in beta
post #1513 of 2482
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Originally Posted by dargo View Post

so the answer is no?
nice guide but for dvd I can simply drop in a mpeg2 file
and with no menu or anything with TMPGEnc dvd author
boom got a dvd that will play in anything no messing with files or settings
guess blu-ray for home authoring is still in beta

No, the answer is yes.

If you don't need menus, you can use TSRemux or tsMuxeR and simply drop in a mpeg2 file and with no menu or anything have HD content with MPEG-2 on DVD media. And TSRemux and tsMuxeR are free, compare to TMPGEnc dvd author.

My guide is for when you want to get fancy and have menus on DVD with MPEG-2 videos.
post #1514 of 2482
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Originally Posted by dargo View Post

so the answer is no?
nice guide but for dvd I can simply drop in a mpeg2 file
and with no menu or anything with TMPGEnc dvd author
boom got a dvd that will play in anything no messing with files or settings
guess blu-ray for home authoring is still in beta

Not entirely true. In it's infancy, but possible. I have had success using Ulead DVD Movie Factory 6+, on a very important Football game played in Feb 08, extracted from my HD Tivo, but am having difficulties with some other program material. It seems my problems are related to my source files, which I am working on.

But it is definitly possible to burn HD content direct to BD-R. Just tricky...

(Or were you asking about burning to DVD?)
post #1515 of 2482
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Originally Posted by MozartMan View Post

No, the answer is yes.

If you don't need menus, you can use TSRemux or tsMuxeR and simply drop in a mpeg2 file and with no menu or anything have HD content with MPEG-2 on DVD media. And TSRemux and tsMuxeR are free, compare to TMPGEnc dvd author.

My guide is for when you want to get fancy and have menus on DVD with MPEG-2 videos.

but can you burn to bd-r
post #1516 of 2482
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Originally Posted by dargo View Post

but can you burn to bd-r

What do you mean?

Of course you can! You probably didn't even try.

You can author Blu-ray project with MPEG-2 video and burn it to BD-R or BD-RE with:

Sony DVD Architect 5
Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6+ with HD Pack
Nero Vision 5 (from Nero 8 package)
Cyberlink Power Producer
Archsoft Total Media Extreme
Sonic Scenarist HDMV
Sony Blu-print
Roxio DVD-it Pro HD
Adobe Encore
post #1517 of 2482
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Originally Posted by MozartMan View Post

What do you mean?

Of course you can! You probably didn't even try.

You can author Blu-ray project with MPEG-2 video and burn it to BD-R or BD-RE with:

Sony DVD Architect 5
Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6+ with HD Pack
Nero Vision 5 (from Nero 8 package)
Cyberlink Power Producer
Archsoft Total Media Extreme
Sonic Scenarist HDMV
Sony Blu-print
Roxio DVD-it Pro HD
Adobe Encore

No I have not tried, did not want to waste money on a burner till I found out if there is a viable software solution. Of the programs listed which would you recommend? I just want to burn tv shows captured over firewire from my cable box using dvhscap and video redo
I don't need menus but would like to skip to the next episode. thanks
post #1518 of 2482
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Originally Posted by dargo View Post

No I have not tried, did not want to waste money on a burner till I found out if there is a viable software solution. Of the programs listed which would you recommend? I just want to burn tv shows captured over firewire from my cable box using dvhscap and video redo
I don't need menus but would like to skip to the next episode. thanks

I will come back more fully on this later, but I have both MF6+ HD and Cyberlink Power Producer (came with the LG BD burner).

The Power producer will easily do BDAV (no menus) and MF 6 requires a little work to produce menus (BDMV). I think MF can be made to do BDAVs but I'm not sure.

Caviats:

I am using an AVCHD Canon Camcorder for my source material.
I have a BD burner and I am burning (way too many blessed expensive coasters) BD-Rs and BD-REs
I have not yet tried to produce a DVD9 with my AVC stuff for my PS3.

Seggers
post #1519 of 2482
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Originally Posted by dargo View Post

No I have not tried, did not want to waste money on a burner till I found out if there is a viable software solution. Of the programs listed which would you recommend? I just want to burn tv shows captured over firewire from my cable box using dvhscap and video redo
I don't need menus but would like to skip to the next episode. thanks

If you don't care about menus and want to author MPEG-2 videos as AVCHD disk on DVD5/9 and as BDMV disk on BD-R/RE the best solution for you would be tsMuxeR, which is free.
BDMV folder produced by tsMuxeR plays as AVCHD on DVD5/9 and as BDMV on BD-R/RE.

If you plan to burn on BD-R/RE, Ulead DMF6+ with HD Pack ($100) would be your choice .
post #1520 of 2482
I have Ulead Moviefactory 6 Plus with the HD Pack, Nero 7 Ultra and Nero 8 Ultra both with Blu-ray plugin, the requisite VideoReDo TVSuite, a LG GGW-H20L burner, Ulead Videostudio 11.5 Plus and I stll cannot burn MPEG2 to Blu-ray disc.
Since I have had no success using Nero 7 and 8 and Moviefactory 6 I tried to use tsmuxer. I loaded two .mpg programs, one with dolby 2.0, the other with 5.1, they were originally .tivo files that I removed the commercials from and saved as .mpg with VideoReDo TVSuite. I selected Blu-ray for my result and started muxing at the bottom of the GUI. There was another choice at the bottom of the GUI of tsmuxer, save to clipboard, but I did not use it. I recycled the certificate that tsmuxer made Since I neither knew what it was for or what to do with it and burned only the BDMV folder with Nero Burning Rom as a UDF version 2.5 from the advanced settings though I do not know if this was right. The video plays and looks fine on two different stand alone Blu-ray players. I just cannot access the second of the two shows I muxed and the audio from the show I am able to access appears to be from a completely different source than either of these two show. What have I or am I doing wrong, or does anyone have any suggestions? I hope I have given enough detail. These are the best result I have gotten so far believe it or not in about a week. Perhaps I should have also taken my file which was a .mpg and put it through VideoReDo TVSuite again using this Brajesh tip from his guide, "after you open VRD, click 'Tools', then while holding down the 'Shift' key, choose 'Options'. This gives you extra setup options. Find the line 'Add GOP Timecode to all GOPs' and enable it to 'True'" and resaved the files as .ts like he says even though he is speaking of making Blu-ray using tsmuxer on DVD. I do not know if I am right in what I am doing, but I have really been working on it. What I really need is lessons on how to do this and I do not know anywhere else to get them except here.I would rather not post this much information, so I hope it is helpful that I do this. I really want to burn MPEG2 on Blu-ray discs. I am able to record MPEG2 HD to regular DVD without any problem in the HD-DVD format. Like the the original poster of this thread is saying, regular DVD is just not hacking it for recording HD in MPEG2. They files are too big.
post #1521 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Rocka2 View Post

...I loaded two .mpg programs, one with dolby 2.0, the other with 5.1, they were originally .tivo files that I removed the commercials from and saved as .mpg with VideoReDo TVSuite.

So, your source files from Tivo. See if this guide helps:

Creating HD-DVDs and Blu-ray disks with TivoToGo using DVD media...

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=371324
post #1522 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Rocka2 View Post

I have Ulead Moviefactory 6 Plus with the HD Pack, Nero 7 Ultra and Nero 8 Ultra both with Blu-ray plugin, the requisite VideoReDo TVSuite, a LG GGW-H20L burner, Ulead Videostudio 11.5 Plus and I stll cannot burn MPEG2 to Blu-ray disc.

Personally I consider Movie Factory rather simple to use, and considering you have the software I'd question if you've tried the following:

1) Choose the Movie Factory BDMV option (maybe it's called Blu-ray) for your mpeg2 video
2) When ready to burn, choose the option to create files instead of a burning to Blu-ray in Movie Factory
3) Burn the files to Blu-ray with Nero burning rom like you did with the tsMuxer files

Steps 2 and 3 would just avoid any burning issues with the Movie Factory software, but if HD DVDs and tsMuxer work for you I'd really be surprised if this procedure wouldn't play on the BDP-S1 considering it plays from DVD media this way when most players don't.
post #1523 of 2482
That guide is outdated. I would not bother with it. As a tivohd uses a cablecard, it just does a capture of the rawbits, just like a motorola box does.

They wrap the mpeg2 file in a drm container they call *.tivo

I think video redo supports *.tivo. If it does not, there is a util which will strip the drm in about 10 seconds, without touching the mpeg (cant remember name right now)

Anyway, there is no reason why tsmuxer wont work on these tivo files, once they have been saved as mpegs.

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Originally Posted by MozartMan View Post

So, your source files from Tivo. See if this guide helps:

Creating HD-DVDs and Blu-ray disks with TivoToGo using DVD media...

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=371324
post #1524 of 2482
DirectShowDump
http://prish.com/etivo/tbr.htm

Install it where you have tivotogo

Works great
post #1525 of 2482
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Originally Posted by alluringreality View Post

Personally I consider Movie Factory rather simple to use, and considering you have the software I'd question if you've tried the following:

1) Choose the Movie Factory BDMV option (maybe it's called Blu-ray) for your mpeg2 video
2) When ready to burn, choose the option to create files instead of a burning to Blu-ray in Movie Factory
3) Burn the files to Blu-ray with Nero burning rom like you did with the tsMuxer files

Steps 2 and 3 would just avoid any burning issues with the Movie Factory software, but if HD DVDs and tsMuxer work for you I'd really be surprised if this procedure wouldn't play on the BDP-S1 considering it plays from DVD media this way when most players don't.

alluringreality,
I was beginning to think it was some burning issues with Moviefactory because whenever it got to the burning part Moviefactory would
stop and say something like DVD Engine failure. So I am going to try doing it this way and see what happens but I feel good about it. Maybe I can finally have some success. Thank you for your response.
Rocka2
post #1526 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Rocka2 View Post

alluringreality,
I was beginning to think it was some burning issues with Moviefactory because whenever it got to the burning part Moviefactory would
stop and say something like DVD Engine failure. So I am going to try doing it this way and see what happens but I feel good about it. Maybe I can finally have some success. Thank you for your response.
Rocka2

I have gotten the same DVD engine failure every time I try and work with a particular source file, trying to write to a folder... I have recorded it twice on my tivo series 3 (HD), same network, two different "broadcasts", ran it through videoredo ts, saved it as .mpeg and .ts and still can't get a reliable bd-r out of it.

What's worse, is ONE TIME, I made a reliable, perfect disc, that plays perfectly. No studder, no audio sync issues. But it was to a bd-re, and I really want to put it on a bd-r, and I can't remember what the hell I did to make it work! I know I used the stand alone BD Recorder thet DMF6+ loads if you choose "no" to the "need menu" question when you start a new project, but that's it. Every time i've tried since, i've gotten $9 coasters.

Now i'm waiting for more bd-re's to arrive, and i'm gonna log every step and setting I do/set... Hopefully.

Hopefully
post #1527 of 2482
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Originally Posted by mchad View Post

What's worse, is ONE TIME, I made a reliable, perfect disc, that plays perfectly. No studder, no audio sync issues. But it was to a bd-re, and I really want to put it on a bd-r, and I can't remember what the hell I did to make it work! I know I used the stand alone BD Recorder thet DMF6+ loads if you choose "no" to the "need menu" question when you start a new project, but that's it. Every time i've tried since, i've gotten $9 coasters.

Now i'm waiting for more bd-re's to arrive, and i'm gonna log every step and setting I do/set... Hopefully.

Hopefully


Why can't you just do a "disk copy" in Nero from the BD-RE to a BD-R?

Mike T
post #1528 of 2482
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Originally Posted by mtallent View Post

Why can't you just do a "disk copy" in Nero from the BD-RE to a BD-R?

Mike T

Good point, I could. But I still want to figure out what I need to do to make relaible BD-R/RE burns... Which I still can't seem to do.
post #1529 of 2482
It appears DVD Movie Factory 7 has now been released outside Japan. http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satelli...0&tabview=tab6 has a link to the free trial. I'm currently downloading so I'm not sure what might have changed. The only thing I considered MF6 was missing in comparison to say TotalMedia Extreme (http://www.arcsoft.com/support/downl...downloadid=411) was 24p video support and the ability to do custom sub-menus.
post #1530 of 2482
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Originally Posted by alluringreality View Post

It appears DVD Movie Factory 7 has now been released outside Japan. http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satelli...0&tabview=tab6 has a link to the free trial. I'm currently downloading so I'm not sure what might have changed.

Are you downloading DVD Movie Factory 7 or DVD Movie Factory Pro 7?
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