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post #1921 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Pepster returns View Post

The RED BOOK standard for DVD is 16Mb/s max.
If you burn >16Mb/s AVCHD on DVDR, you blu-ray player will most likely not play it propery - expect stutter, or complete lock-up.

AVCHD is already up to 25Mb/s on many new camcorders.
Panasonic will also soon release a much higher AVCHD spec - 35MB/s is expected.

If you don't want to invest in BD media, it's quite possible to re-encode the content with minimal quality loss to a rate that fits in the Red Book standard and plays fine on a player that can play AVCHD format (I use the PS3 myself).

I have been seen movies that originated on BD that have been re-encoded to fit a single layer DVD and authored as AVCHD and when played back on the PS3, they not only play smoothly, the PQ is still definitely HD quality and very acceptable.
post #1922 of 2482
My situation is probably an easy one to fix but I need some help because I've ran out of ideas and there are more experts here on this forum.

I have a .ts file which contains an H.264/AVC HD video component and a DD5.1 audio component. I then used TSMUXER v1.10.6 to create a bluray in order to play on my PS3. I select AVCHD disk on TSMUXER so that I can burn using a DVD-RW. I burn the BD files using Nero 8 with UDF 2.5 settings. Everything is good except when I play it on the PS3 (recently updated to v2.76), the video is not smooth. It's a bit choppy. The audio however is good and in sync with the video.

I take the same .ts file and use TSREMUX (v0.0.21.2) and perform similar steps above and the DVD works flawlessy in my PS3 (AVCHD disk). Video is in its full HD quality with DD5.1 audio. Video is also smooth.

What is wrong when I use TSMUXER? I would like to use TSMUXER because it has features such as join' other files that TSREMUX doesn't have.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks.
post #1923 of 2482
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Originally Posted by starwarskid View Post

My situation is probably an easy one to fix but I need some help because I've ran out of ideas and there are more experts here on this forum.

I have a .ts file which contains an H.264/AVC HD video component and a DD5.1 audio component. I then used TSMUXER v1.10.6 to create a bluray in order to play on my PS3. I select AVCHD disk on TSMUXER so that I can burn using a DVD-RW. I burn the BD files using Nero 8 with UDF 2.5 settings. Everything is good except when I play it on the PS3 (recently updated to v2.76), the video is not smooth. It's a bit choppy. The audio however is good and in sync with the video.

I take the same .ts file and use TSREMUX (v0.0.21.2) and perform similar steps above and the DVD works flawlessy in my PS3 (AVCHD disk). Video is in its full HD quality with DD5.1 audio. Video is also smooth.

What is wrong when I use TSMUXER? I would like to use TSMUXER because it has features such as join' other files that TSREMUX doesn't have.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks.

There may be some problem with your file and TSRemux does do some file repair as it remuxes. So I would suggest you take the original .ts file and just run it through TSRemux with the output being the same .ts format, then put the file into tsRemuX and make the settings you want and see if it plays OK.

Mike T
post #1924 of 2482
I was hoping yall could help me out. I have a larger BD file of mine I'm trying to burn on a 25g BD-R. Is the best way to decrease the size of the file without effecting quality to use TSmuxer to get rid of the extra audio formats? What about deleting extra scenes, can I just delete it from the file and the burn will be ok or do I need to redo the file through TSmuxer?

Thanks for the help and any extra explanations I may receive
post #1925 of 2482
Any help on this? Pm or reply would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
post #1926 of 2482
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Originally Posted by threelions View Post

Any help on this? Pm or reply would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Assuming you are backing up a BD title you own (there is really no other legal scenario I can think of and even then it's somewhat contentious) then as you say the best way is remove additional audio tracks. If you open up the m2ts file in txmuxer (the GUI) you can see all the audio tracks in the file. Select the one you want and output a new copy of the file without that audio (TrueHD and DTS HD Master occupy a fair bit of space). See if that is below 25G now. If not then you are going to have to compress the video which won't make much discernible difference to the PQ but does take time and knowledge which isn't really appropriate to be discussed in this forum.
post #1927 of 2482
Thanks, I realize some may have been afraid to comment because they believe it has illegal implications. What I'm attempting to do is make a backup of my blu ray that is rather large. I can't afford 50gig bd-r's so I'm trying to make due with what I have. I appreciate the advice.
post #1928 of 2482
Hello,
I am suffering from some serious confusion. First off I am a newbie...with that being said...
I am looking for a blu-ray burner to make my own movies (BRMV) from
my Canon VIXIA HFS-100. H.264 codec. I have Adobe Premiere CS4, which includes Encore for burning the BD media.
So, I found the LaCie d2. I received this response from LaCie, "Thank you for contacting LaCie, the primary function of the BR burner is for data archival purposes, with a secondary function of HD playback through the Power DVD BD software which is bundled with this product. At this time, Blu Ray codec authoring is kept highly proprietary by Sony and authoring is limited only to those that commercially produce under licensing. The software that is bundled with this drive does not have the functionality of authoring Blu Ray codec to disk, and to my knowledge no such thing exists in the market at this time.

On a separate note, this Blu Ray burner is fully capable of writing/re-writing data to the 50gb disks, so in turn if you have a media player capable of decoding H.264 file format, then theoretically this device should work to burn that file format to disk and have the player decode it off the disk. Just to make it clear that blu ray codec authoring is something done at the software level and at this time there is nothing available that will perform such a function without extensive licenses.



I hope this clears up some confusion and let us know if you have any further questions."
And in a second email...

"This is the information I have been given regarding our LaCie product, Blu-Ray authoring is something that we do not support with this device at this time. With regard to Encore by Adobe, it looks like you are right and this software suite appears to be capable of exactly what you are looking for, unfortunately our product hardware is not supported in this capacity."

Well, it didn't clear up anything! I have tried the forums at adobe... searched here etc, etc.
This quote is from the LaCie website,"Engineered for professional video authoring houses, (the italics are mine) the LaCie d2 Blu-ray Drive records, rewrites, and plays back high-definition (HD) video. Store up to four hours of HD video on a 50GB** discabout 10 times as much as a DVD. Shoot HD videos from your camcorder, author the videos, and burn them without any quality loss using multiple video codecs (MPEG2, AVC, VC-1). "


So, if this drive WON'T do it according to the sales person, what can I buy that will do what I want to do?

Sorry for the length of this post... I just don't know how else to approach this problem. Been working on it for days now!!!

Thanks for the read & any advice....

Regards, Douglas
P.S. Perhaps I should have simply asked what are you folks using...?
post #1929 of 2482
Douglas,

I have an LG HH something or other BD burner, that does burn BD with the supplied software. I also went out and got Corel's Ulead Movie Factory 6 + the HD add on pack. This will allow me to do BDAVs (video only) as well as BDMVs (full on).

That said, what are you using to play your discs with? If your BD player will do AVCHDs, then skip turning them into BDs and just use DVD5 or 9 (4 or 8Gb) to burn 30mins or 1 hour (roughly) of AVCHD files.

I have a Canon HF100 and that's what I do now. I kind of regret getting my BD burner as my PS3 will quite happily play the AVCHD DVDs. I do use it for backing up files from my PC (along with extra copies of my original AVC files).

Seggers
post #1930 of 2482
I have yet to use this piece of functionality in Nero 9, but it as a Blu Ray authoring add-on for making your home movies on BD.

I don't have BD burner yet, but based on the previous thread I may just do the AVCHD route and run with that.

But either way, the Nero 9 has that option.
post #1931 of 2482
There are some free programs that will author AVCHD and BDMV formats that you can burn on std DVD disks or BD disks. One is tsMuxeR that is discussed on the www.doom9.org forums. You cannot make menus but you can have chapters in the blu-ray disks you make with this free program.

Mike T
post #1932 of 2482
I use multiAVCHD to author AVCHD or BDMV disks now. It can produce menus! And it is free.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744
post #1933 of 2482
For those of you who are encoding using the x264 since r1177 (changes to defaults, presets, profiles, and fast first pass) what is your command line?

Here is what I came up with:

Code:
Echo.
Echo.
Echo.[ %TIME% ] Encoding pass 1 ...
Echo.

@Echo on
"%x264_PATH%" --preset fast --tune film --pass 1 --slow-firstpass --bitrate %VIDBITRATE% --stats "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\\%SOURCE_FILENAME%.stats" --level 4.1 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 --thread-input --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd --output NUL "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\\%SOURCE_FILENAME%-output.avs"
@Echo off

Echo.
Echo.
Echo.[ %TIME% ] Encoding pass 2 ...
Echo.

@Echo on
"%x264_PATH%" --preset slow --tune film --pass 2 --bitrate %VIDBITRATE% --stats "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\\%SOURCE_FILENAME%.stats" --level 4.1 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 --thread-input --trellis 2 --no-fast-pskip --b-pyramid --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd --output "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\\%SOURCE_FILENAME%-output.h264" "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\\%SOURCE_FILENAME%-output.avs"
@Echo off
post #1934 of 2482
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Originally Posted by threelions View Post

Thanks, I realize some may have been afraid to comment because they believe it has illegal implications. What I'm attempting to do is make a backup of my blu ray that is rather large. I can't afford 50gig bd-r's so I'm trying to make due with what I have. I appreciate the advice.

Well depending on the size of the source it could be as easy as demuxing the video and audio of the main movie using eac3to and then authoring using tsMuxeR.
post #1935 of 2482
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Originally Posted by seggers View Post

Douglas,

I have an LG HH something or other BD burner, that does burn BD with the supplied software. I also went out and got Corel's Ulead Movie Factory 6 + the HD add on pack. This will allow me to do BDAVs (video only) as well as BDMVs (full on).

That said, what are you using to play your discs with? If your BD player will do AVCHDs, then skip turning them into BDs and just use DVD5 or 9 (4 or 8Gb) to burn 30mins or 1 hour (roughly) of AVCHD files.

I have a Canon HF100 and that's what I do now. I kind of regret getting my BD burner as my PS3 will quite happily play the AVCHD DVDs. I do use it for backing up files from my PC (along with extra copies of my original AVC files).

Seggers

Thanks for the info, EVERYONE!!! I bought a Pioneer BDP-09FD which says it plays AVCHD.
post #1936 of 2482
Hi fellows

i have a question

iam trying to make avchd on the sea monsters i have
iam using/choose avchd in multiavchd since it came under 8.5gb when i made and burn and iam using dvd-dl
iam getting jitter playback on video and audio
what ami doing wrong?

p.s: should i choose eac3to when iam making avchd
(i assume since its ac3 format i don't need too!!)
please help
Thanks alott in advance
post #1937 of 2482
Apologies if this has been covered before, but need a way to store captured MPEG2 transport streams on a BD-R (testing on BD-RE, of course!)

I've got Toast 9 with the BD plug-in, but I can't find a file or extension that Toast likes.

I do NOT need to burn HD to DVD-R. I just want to put my transport streams on a BD that can actually be played in a BD player (or PS3 if I must.)

Tips and pointers appreciated. Thanks!
post #1938 of 2482
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I just want to put my transport streams on a BD that can actually be played in a BD player (or PS3 if I must.)

I've had good luck using TsRemuxer and Imgburn. Some people prefer tsmuxer to TsRemuxer, but I often times had audio/video sync issues when using it.

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I do NOT need to burn HD to DVD-R.

That's actually good because getting BD-5, BD-9, and AVCHD disks that play has been much more problematic for me. There seem to more restrictions about what bitrates and video and audio can be played off a dvd. Also the maximum bitrate of what can be played off a dvd seems to be very low (12mbit or less) making it useless for most Mpeg2 content. My old Hd-dvd player could play broadcast standard Mpeg2 content authored onto a dvd without issue, but my blu-ray player doesn't. This was because HD-DVD players had a trick they used on such content. They would spin the disk 3x the normal speed of a regualr DVD player thus enabling bitrate of up to around 24mbit. BD players apparently aren't smart enough to do this.
post #1939 of 2482
Thanks for the info. I had nothing but security problems trying to download tsremuxer. I tried tsmuxer and it worked, but I had the same A/V sync issues you mentioned. The re-muxing must not be exactly right. I tried replacing the m2ts stream in the bdmv file system with the original captured ts stream. While the disc "plays," there is no audio or video.

Any other tips?
post #1940 of 2482
Why don't you guys use RipBot? It's been mentioned in this thread many times, and I have successfully created AVCHD discs and standard MP4 files using it (the latter which can be converted to VOB for DVD burning).
post #1941 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Stanton View Post

Why don't you guys use RipBot? It's been mentioned in this thread many times, and I have successfully created AVCHD discs and standard MP4 files using it (the latter which can be converted to VOB for DVD burning).

I've got perfectly good HD MPEG2 files that I want to preserve, just put them onto a BD so they can be played without a separate computer.

Just an FYI, I burned another test file (with tsmuxer) and the sync was fine. The beginning part of the file during my previous test may not have been trimmed properly.
post #1942 of 2482
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I had nothing but security problems trying to download tsremuxer.

Really? That's odd. Where did you try to download it from and what software gave you the security warnings? I downloaded it from the "Download (direct link)" link on this page.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TsRemux

Then I uploaded it to the Virustotal website. I always do this before installing any new software I download from the net just to be safe. Anyway, it seems to come up clean after being scanned by 41 different AV scanners. This was actually the main reason I initially went with Tsremuxer as many other pieces of software of this nature didn't always come up clean. Anyway, here's a link to the results of my scan.

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/7...357-1249804470

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I've got perfectly good HD MPEG2 files that I want to preserve, just put them onto a BD so they can be played without a separate computer.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I'm doing. No need to waste time re-encoding the video, which is inevitably going to also reduce the quality, when you've already got video in a format that's compatible. Some of my recordings are from OTA and some are from satellite. The only time I've found it necessary to re-encode is with stream that have MPEG audio (these only come from satellite as OTA is always AC3). Apparently Mpeg audio isn't supported by blu-ray players or at least mine have had issues with it. Anyway, I've had good luck as long as I burn to a BD. Burning to DVD media is a different story and players seem to be much pickier about playing BD video from DVD. The bitrate I think is the biggest issue as I mentioned in my previous post. Most of the time this is no big deal for me as I generally need to burn to BD anyway, but when I have something that's small enough to fit on a DL DVD, it kinda sucks to have to burn it to BD and waste all that extra space.
post #1943 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Stefan View Post

Really? That's odd. Where did you try to download it from and what software gave you the security warnings? I downloaded it from the "Download (direct link)" link on this page.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TsRemux

Then I uploaded it to the Virustotal website. I always do this before installing any new software I download from the net just to be safe. Anyway, it seems to come up clean after being scanned by 41 different AV scanners. This was actually the main reason I initially went with Tsremuxer as many other pieces of software of this nature didn't always come up clean. Anyway, here's a link to the results of my scan.

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/7...357-1249804470

Maybe "security" isn't my problem. I always found that IE had "encountered a problem and needed to close." I tried a few mirror sites, too.

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Originally Posted by Stefan View Post

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I'm doing. No need to waste time re-encoding the video, which is inevitably going to also reduce the quality, when you've already got video in a format that's compatible. Some of my recordings are from OTA and some are from satellite. The only time I've found it necessary to re-encode is with stream that have MPEG audio (these only come from satellite as OTA is always AC3). Apparently Mpeg audio isn't supported by blu-ray players or at least mine have had issues with it. Anyway, I've had good luck as long as I burn to a BD. Burning to DVD media is a different story and players seem to be much pickier about playing BD video from DVD. The bitrate I think is the biggest issue as I mentioned in my previous post. Most of the time this is no big deal for me as I generally need to burn to BD anyway, but when I have something that's small enough to fit on a DL DVD, it kinda sucks to have to burn it to BD and waste all that extra space.

I'm not sure how much mux-ing of any kind I need to do. It appears that all I need to do is come up with a disc file structure that the BD player understands. The .ts streams that I have should be perfectly valid for a BD player (OTA HD streams.) I haven't experimented enough to see if the BD player will seamlessly play video that has been spliced or audio that changes modes within the file.
post #1944 of 2482
How about some HD broadcasts/downloads of titles which aren't even on Blu-ray yet? They'd be as interim titles of course. To burn onto a DVD-R or DL. BD5, BD9 or AVCHD? I have a few discs already of some titles in MP4 format or something similar which I play on my XBOX 360. I should be officially receiving the SONY BDP-S360 player several hours from now and since I looked at a .pdf of the manual it certainly plays AVCHD's. I'll test out the HD DVD-5's and DVD-9's I have.
Should I list titles? I'll also list the resolution they're in too.

Code:
Apocalypse Now Redux 720p
Back to the Future 720p
Back to the Future Part II 720p
Back to the Future Part III 720p
The Great Escape 720p
The Guns of Navarone 720p
Raiders of the Lost Ark 720p
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 720p
JAWS 720p
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 1080p
Lawrence of Arabia 720p
Rear Window 720p
RoboCop 2 720p
And alot of others. Of course I fancy these to be interim versions until the official release obviously. I'm only 30 and damn do I love movies even older than me.
post #1945 of 2482
My intent is NOT to redistribute broadcast content.
post #1946 of 2482
I haven't been around the forum for a while. I have 3 DVHS decks and about 200 movies on dvhs and am now looking into ugrading my computor. I'll be adding BD burner, what does anyone suggest for hardware from dell or who else for burning BD?
post #1947 of 2482
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Originally Posted by hphase View Post

My intent is NOT to redistribute broadcast content.

If anything all my DVD-R's of HD film content will be put back on my computer and re-burned so they'll be BD5/BD9/AVCHD. Any idea how I should go about doing this?
post #1948 of 2482
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Originally Posted by wiz View Post

I haven't been around the forum for a while. I have 3 DVHS decks and about 200 movies on dvhs and am now looking into ugrading my computor. I'll be adding BD burner, what does anyone suggest for hardware from dell or who else for burning BD?

I also have a few DVHS movies I am trying to transfer to BD. I purchased an i7 system from Dell with Vista x64, 6GB of RAM and a Bluray burner for about $800, back in April.

The hardware seems to be fine but there were definitely some issues. I have had a particularly difficult time transferring the files from tape to hard disk. None of the free tools seem to work in Vista x64 and my old XP system stopped working too I did transfer a few movies before this happened and they allowed me to uncover some additional problems.

The resolution of my tape recordings is 1920x1088 and this causes a thin white line to be displayed on the bottom of the screen when I create a native BD from the file. I ended up using multiAVCHD to crop the image to 1920x1080 and re-encode the video as H.264. The picture looks fine but a few of the files now have audio sync problems that have been difficult to resolve.

The i7 does a good job on the encoding process. It takes approximately the length of the original file to encode it in the new format. I just wish I had some better tools for fixing the audio problems.
post #1949 of 2482
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Originally Posted by JHL View Post

. I ended up using multiAVCHD to crop the image to 1920x1080 and re-encode the video as H.264. The picture looks fine but a few of the files now have audio sync problems that have been difficult to resolve.

how did u hooked up to the pc?(dumped the content to HD)
I mean usb or other source

audio sync problems:
maybe u can try these
use Tsremuxer or tsmuxer
multiavchd is very good program .but lately iam having problems with rendering the a/v while playing it back on bluray
post #1950 of 2482
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Originally Posted by vamovie View Post

how did u hooked up to the pc?(dumped the content to HD)
I mean usb or other source

audio sync problems:
maybe u can try these
use Tsremuxer or tsmuxer
multiavchd is very good program .but lately iam having problems with rendering the a/v while playing it back on bluray

I used a standard Firewire connection from my DVHS deck to a system running XP. I have had no luck at all with Vista or Windows 7. XP only works in certain configurations, there seems to be a relationship to SP2. You must run a release earlier than that. Check the thread on DVHS tools in the Computer area for more info. I don't know why my config stopped working.

I did use those mux tools but they did not help much. I am still amazed that the first disc worked so well.
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