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post #11161 of 11583
8/1/12 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

If WOCK is the one that carries KBC, then even Comcast has occasional problems. I've seen the channel blank several times.
Also, is this from the first post still correct for WOCK? I can only pick them up rarely and can't verify right now.
WOCK-LD (4)
13-1 : LATV - 480i
13-2 : KBC - 480i
13-3 : MegaTV - 480i
13-4 : MC-TV - 480i
If so, then the Wikipedia article needs to be updated.

As one of the 7 or 8 people that can (mostly) receive WOCK-LD, the line-up looks like this as of right now:

13-1: Mega TV
13-2: KBC
13-3: No name displayed; showing an infomercial for some hair-care product.
13-4: AAN

They're all 480i.

As to LATV, it looks like it's now on 25-5 and not on 13 at all.
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post #11162 of 11583
8/1/12 at 4:47pm
Wasn't there something called KUBS-TV on 13.5, and MC-TV was on 13.6?
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post #11163 of 11583
8/1/12 at 4:59pm
You're thinking of WPVN-CD.

- Trip
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post #11164 of 11583
8/1/12 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

Wasn't there something called KUBS-TV on 13.5, and MC-TV was on 13.6?
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

You're thinking of WPVN-CD.
- Trip

Yep, I don't ever recall there being more than 4 subchannels on WOCK-LD.
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post #11165 of 11583
8/2/12 at 10:00am
OK, Trip, Zzzzz, thanks.  I rarely can pull in WPVN either, and the antenna and TV that sometime get WOCK aren't the pair that sometimes get WPVN, so I never see them one after the other.

Meanwhile, I was able to pull in WYIN this morning, and 56.2 and 56.4 were gone.  They were redundant anyway.
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post #11166 of 11583
8/2/12 at 10:12pm
I can get both WOCK & WPVN. I can even get Ch. 6 analog (some what snowy). I'm straight west of the city 20-25 mi. Of course, I have an outdoor antenna with pre-amp.
I'm only recieving a signal on 13.2 & 13,3 atm. 13.1 & 13.4 are missing. I have a signal. Just no picture or sound.

update: WOCK 13.4 (AAN) is coming through, on my tv on 4.4. 13.1 (Mundo Fox) is on 4.1025
Edited by alnielsen - 8/2/12 at 10:23pm
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post #11167 of 11583
8/3/12 at 3:20pm
I'm only a mile or so from WPVN, so I have no problems with them. WOCK is more miss than hit unless conditions are just right.
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post #11168 of 11583
8/3/12 at 6:16pm
They're now running the Mundo Fox previews on 13.1, and in 720p.
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post #11169 of 11583
8/5/12 at 6:53am
Just a note that on post 2, the MundoFox update is white text.

Also, I was able to briefly get WOCK in, and I swear there was a 13.5 with a WOCK-LD label. I think it was just another commercial, but it was glitching in and out.
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post #11170 of 11583
8/5/12 at 8:28pm
There is indeed a 13.5, and it looks to be the new home of Mega TV.

13.2 is currently broadcasting KBC TV.
13.3 is currently broadcasting paid programming.
13.4 is currently broadcasting a cooking show in English which is called Taste TV, it doesn't appear to be paid programming.
The Tivo listing for 13.4 shows an odd hodgepodge of English language programming, but I'm not sure of the affiliation.

All those channel 13 subchannels look like you're watching a poor quality Youtube feed.
The 720p main channel is probably sucking all the good bits, and it isn't even real great quality itself...
Edited by longwong - 8/5/12 at 8:39pm
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post #11171 of 11583
8/6/12 at 3:24pm
13.4 is supposed to be America One (should have an AAN label).

Comcast hasn't updated their feed for LATV. It looks like they are still using 13.3, which is now just ads.
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post #11172 of 11583
8/6/12 at 3:32pm
With the recent WOCK changes, somebody mentioned LATV moved to 25. The second post of this thread says that is W25CN-D. Is that actually correct? Not only the change, but even the station name? I tried searching, but can find no information other than this page for W25CN.
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post #11173 of 11583
8/6/12 at 4:29pm
For channels 13, 25 and 61 do you need an outdoor antenna to pick them up in the city? Can you just use a simple indoor amplifed antenna?
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post #11174 of 11583
8/6/12 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by chgo1967 View Post

For channels 13, 25 and 61 do you need an outdoor antenna to pick them up in the city? Can you just use a simple indoor amplifed antenna?

I'll hesitantly say an indoor amplified antenna is probably sufficient, but I also will emphasize that every situation is different and unpredictable. TVFool.com is your best bet to find out. Not for certain, but you should get a good idea.
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post #11175 of 11583
8/7/12 at 12:07am
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Originally Posted by chgo1967 View Post

For channels 13, 25 and 61 do you need an outdoor antenna to pick them up in the city? Can you just use a simple indoor amplifed antenna?

In the city, rabbit ears may work for RF 25 & RF 33 (VC 25 & 61), depending on the building you're in, & the material used in it. RF 4 (VC 13) will need an outdoor antenna, as rabbit ears tend to be insufficient. Unlike analog, where you didn't always have to adjust them, it's mandatory for rabbit ears, & even then, it works best for RF 7-13, while next to impossible for RF 2-6. Even if rabbit ears might work for RF 4, WOCK-CD is only broadcasting at 300 watts, & that signal is too weak to even penetrate any buildings. I'm using an outdoor Antennacraft VHF antenna (CS600) to get WOCK-CD from Gary, IN, & I only get it if I use a pre-amp. Otherwise, it doesn't come in at all. I can only get RF 25 is if I use a pre-amp with my Winegard UHF only antenna (HD9032). I however can't get RF 33, due to interference from WEDE-CA on RF 34 analog & WMEU-CD on RF 32. TS Reader however can pick up a signal on RF 33, but it detects lots of interference.
Edited by dave73 - 8/8/12 at 1:03am
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post #11176 of 11583
8/7/12 at 7:16am
Last night I was getting KBC on 4.2 and MegaTV on 13.5,  The other three WOCK channels were not coming in at all.

Weren't they supposed to flash-cut WOCH from LP to LD on RF41 some day?
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post #11177 of 11583
8/7/12 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by chgo1967 View Post

For channels 13, 25 and 61 do you need an outdoor antenna to pick them up in the city? Can you just use a simple indoor amplifed antenna?

Indoor antennas tend to be "hit-or-miss" when it comes to DTV reception, even if you are very close to the transmitter (and if you live right in the Loop, forget it).

If you have a wood or vinyl house, and especially if you have a window from which you can see the transmitters, you may be in luck.

I would avoid an amplified antenna anywhere in Chicago proper - your problems will be with multipath (echoes), not low signal strength. An amplifier in a strong-signal setting like Chicago proper will only cause overload problems.
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post #11178 of 11583
8/7/12 at 10:11pm
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

Last night I was getting KBC on 4.2 and MegaTV on 13.5,  The other three WOCK channels were not coming in at all.
Weren't they supposed to flash-cut WOCH from LP to LD on RF41 some day?
41 to channel 49, yep. No money to do that right now, last I heard. 15kw on 49 is infintely better than 300 watts on channel 4.
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post #11179 of 11583
8/8/12 at 7:10am
Ah, on RF49, not 41; but either way, it hasn't happened yet.  Thanks, Gilbert.
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post #11180 of 11583
8/11/12 at 5:11pm
Is there somewhere on line to find out WLS's new weekday daytime schedule that starts when "Katie" premieres September 10?  I just never can find anything I look for on abc7chicago.com, and that was no exception.

Thanks for any assistance.
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post #11181 of 11583
8/12/12 at 4:58am
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

Is there somewhere on line to find out WLS's new weekday daytime schedule that starts when "Katie" premieres September 10?  I just never can find anything I look for on abc7chicago.com, and that was no exception.
Thanks for any assistance.

Katie Couric will be on at 3pm (ABC's decision & not WLS-TV's decision), moving Inside Edition & Jeopardy up an hour to 2 & 2:30pm for both shows. General Hospital will also move an hour up to 1pm, replacing Good Afternoon America, which was only a temporary show to replace The Revolution (it's possible it could come back if ABC decides to cancel General Hospital in 2013). I just waiting to hear if WLS-TV will pick up Live with Kelly, since WGN-TV's contract is up next year, & WLS-TV sees Live with Kelly a threat to Windy City Live at 9am. So they want to acquire the show & put it on at a different time. Our luck, if history repeats itself, it'll end up on during the overnight hours, like it did when the show was Live with Regis & Kathie Lee.
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post #11182 of 11583
8/12/12 at 9:06am
Thank you, Dave73.  I was interested principally in "Jeopardy," hoping it wasn't getting canceled.  Now I'll just need to reprogram my DTVPal DVR for the new time when it changes.
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post #11183 of 11583
8/13/12 at 10:49pm
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

Thank you, Dave73.  I was interested principally in "Jeopardy," hoping it wasn't getting canceled.  Now I'll just need to reprogram my DTVPal DVR for the new time when it changes.

Let's hope the ratings don't suffer from this time change. I personally believe having Katie on at 3pm is wrong. Since the 2pm timeslot was given back to the affiliates, I wish WLS-TV would have put Katie on at 2pm, but I believe it was corporate's decision to put her show on at 3pm, since all ABC O&O stations will carry her show, & air it at 3pm. I hear her show won't be on at 3pm in all markets. Some markets are putting her show on in the morning.
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post #11184 of 11583
8/14/12 at 9:07am
For the past couple of days I've been receiving WOCK-LD (or is it -CD?), and the video has been OK on all five channels, and the audio has been OK on 13.2 through 13.5, but the audio on 13.1 seems to be about half a second on, half a second silent, on, silent, on, silent ...

Since nobody else is reporting this, maybe the audio encoding is incompatible with the tuner and I should try dragging another television to the outdoor antenna's connection, but as my luck usually runs, by then we'll have lost the signal again.
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post #11185 of 11583
8/15/12 at 3:28pm
On Comcast, MegaTV looks like somebody has the brightness turned way up. Does the 13.5 broadcast look the same?
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post #11186 of 11583
8/25/12 at 8:40am
Any news on WLS's turning up the power on RF44 and going dark on RF7?

Some of our antennas, including the outdoor one, actually get RF7 more reliably than RF44.
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post #11187 of 11583
8/25/12 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

Any news on WLS's turning up the power on RF44 and going dark on RF7?
Some of our antennas, including the outdoor one, actually get RF7 more reliably than RF44.
Vice versa for me in South Bend
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post #11188 of 11583
8/25/12 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

Some of our antennas, including the outdoor one, actually get RF7 more reliably than RF44.
Vice versa for me in South Bend
That's how it used to be here, RF44 coming in better than RF7, but a while ago it flipped.
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post #11189 of 11583
8/25/12 at 11:41pm
Overall, I've always got WLS-TV better on RF 7 than on RF 44. The only time it as equal was when I used my original Philips VHF/UHF/FM combo antenna with RCA pre-amp, & got strong signal strength on RF 44 from the John Hancock. I haven't tried it with my Winegard UHF only antenna with RF 44 back on the John Hancock, but when they tried broadcasting on RF 44 from the Sears Tower on a new antenna, their signal dropped out a lot for me. I have yet to see how it'll be with the new antenna that's suppsed to be installed. RF 7 is broadcasting from the Sears Tower on their old circular polarized antenna that they never removed. Whether RF 7 was broadcasting on the Sears Tower or the John Hancock, RF 7 always came in better for me. Just my opinion, WLS-TV should have just gone with a translator, as people in the suburbs (as long as they were using an outdoor antenna) usually got them on VHF. I somehow believe WLS-TV will continue to extend their STA for RF 7, since they have yet to get RF 44 to work properly from the Sears Tower. I won't be surprised if this continues for a 4th year (they're about to go on their 3rd year in October, when they switched primary channels).
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post #11190 of 11583
8/26/12 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by dave73 View Post

Overall, I've always got WLS-TV better on RF 7 than on RF 44. The only time it as equal was when I used my original Philips VHF/UHF/FM combo antenna with RCA pre-amp, & got strong signal strength on RF 44 from the John Hancock. I haven't tried it with my Winegard UHF only antenna with RF 44 back on the John Hancock, but when they tried broadcasting on RF 44 from the Sears Tower on a new antenna, their signal dropped out a lot for me. I have yet to see how it'll be with the new antenna that's suppsed to be installed. RF 7 is broadcasting from the Sears Tower on their old circular polarized antenna that they never removed. Whether RF 7 was broadcasting on the Sears Tower or the John Hancock, RF 7 always came in better for me. Just my opinion, WLS-TV should have just gone with a translator, as people in the suburbs (as long as they were using an outdoor antenna) usually got them on VHF. I somehow believe WLS-TV will continue to extend their STA for RF 7, since they have yet to get RF 44 to work properly from the Sears Tower. I won't be surprised if this continues for a 4th year (they're about to go on their 3rd year in October, when they switched primary channels).
I have a VHF-high yagi with Winegard VHF preamp but local FM and 2-ways caused issues with overload and when I tried a VHF 7-13 highband filter ahead of the preamp it had too much insertion loss so I use a ch.12 bandpass there instead and get my WLS-TV from r.f.44. Are you sure abouth r.f.7 from Sears? I though there was a big to-do this summer when they removed that old CP antenna by helicopter and gently droped onto a truck on the ground. I even heard something about a section being preserved for a permanent display.
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