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Some of both. There's definitely some material from the original TNN running on it, but it's intermixed with new productions, current music videos, and the live morning show. There's roughly a 50/50 split between new and old.

- Trip

Still getting it, but at 10-12 points on my TiVo HD's SSM lower than before, at 62-63%. 

I'm happy you're at least temporarily getting the channel, Dave! But honestly very shocked. I was leaning toward maybe a 25 percent chance or less you'd be able to get them in Gary. But it's nice to be wrong sometimes. It's also really impressive their new signal seems to be getting out as far as DeKalb and Geneva. For a TV signal of that power both of those places are a long trip to make.

So with WPVN's move, not only is WUVI gonna complicate things when/if they go live but also looks like maybe W25D-W might have a mess on their hands too. Except if I read that post right they will be dealing with Weigel..ouch

That whole WUVI situation...that would be like if one of the Rockford or Milwaukee stations somehow moved to downtown Chicago, but were still licensed to and served those areas plus ours. That's just an odd situation I've never heard of happening before.

I looked at the TNN website and it's a pretty decent variety of stuff actually. I'll be home all of Monday and Tuesday so I'll really check out 24.1, 24.2 and 24.3 then. Hopefully 24.1 will have sound by then!

Other than having to turn the antenna, reception has never been a problem for me. But and this is a little off topic, but now I would like to see WPVN 24.1, 24.2 and maybe 24.3 up on Directv.

well no one has mentioned ... or no one cares ...
44.3 no longer there today
adios SOI-tv ?

kd9fz
comments, criticisms and questions of sanity are always welcome

Other than having to turn the antenna, reception has never been a problem for me. But and this is a little off topic, but now I would like to see WPVN 24.1, 24.2 and maybe 24.3 up on Directv.



I'm happy to be seeing them at all. But if I were Directv they would not be allowed on till they correct their levels.
Whites and bright colors are completly blown out,how hard is that to correct in the year 2013?

It's been reported all day today. But Weigel Broadcasting is launching a new digital subnetwork that will be aring on the Fox O&Os. This venture will be the first network that won't be airing on any of the Weigel Stations in Chicago. This new network which the name entitled "Movies!" will be launching later in the spring, will be airing on the DT2 subchannel. Not sure if its WFLD or WPWR. More on this new can be read HERE.
Edited by csworldwide1 - 1/28/13 at 7:32pm

source: Northpine.com and
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/491563-Fox_O_Os_Weigel_Launch_Movies_Digi_Net.php

Fox O&Os, Weigel Launch Movies! Digi-Net
Another player in crowded entertainment subchannel space

By Michael Malone -- Broadcasting & Cable, 1/28/2013 1:58:33 PM


Fox Television Stations and Weigel Broadcasting are partnering on Movies!, a film-themed subchannel launching in 17 Fox-owned markets this spring. The network's aim is "to create a new destination for movie fans that is fan-friendly and available for free via over-the-air television, and in many cases via local cable carriage," said Fox in a statement.

Movies! will be available on Fox subchannels in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, Dallas, Boston, Washington, Atlanta, Houston, Detroit, Phoenix, Tampa, Minneapolis, Orlando, Austin, Memphis and Ocala.

"We're doing Movies! because this content works in the D2 space," said Frank Cicha, senior VP of programming at Fox Television Stations. "Weigel has proven that in their other ventures, which is why we've chosen to work with them. While we've successfully used our D2 spectrum to some degree, this is the first time we're going in with all stations on board, which is exciting."

Movies! enters a crowded entertainment multicast net space that includes This TV, Me-TV, Antenna TV and NBC Owned Stations rookie Cozi TV. Weigel owns Me-TV, which airs classic TV shows, and is a partner, with MGM, on This TV.

The films will air 24 hours a day and will appear in a 16 by 9 format.

"We are excited to work with the Fox Television Station Group in the creation of the next digital network franchise," said Neal Sabin, president of content and networks, Weigel Broadcasting.

Saw a story in the paper that WOCK 13.4 is now airing WeatherNation. Not totally local weather, but at least something always available for broadcast viewers (or Comcast 392/690). It does have a tiny MidWest weather radar in the corner.

Too bad their transmitter is so weak...

I don't think they care too much. Like more and more broadcast channels, they seem to exist more for retransmission rights and $$$.

It's nice that there's a weather channel available, but I'm however not happy that America One was removed from that subchannel. I did watch that from time to time.

It's true that this is a weak station. At only 300 watts, you must have an outdoor antenna & a pre-amp in order to get it. Since I use separate VHF & UHF antennas, I must have my VHF antenna (Antennacraft CS600) at the very top of the pole & pre-amp in order to get it. I would rather have my UHF antenna (Antennas Direct DB8) mounted at the top of the pole instead, as it would make getting WWME-LD a lot easier than it is now. That's one station I lost when I rescanned my new TV.

It's strange. If I program the DirecTV Am-21 receiver it will get WPVN on 24-1 when I choose Milwaukee as the secondary market and tune 24-1. I think it's a hiccup in the guide. But we'd all like to see 26-5 THIS on the tuner. No luck for over 2 years. The channels on the AM-21 are locked down by DirecTV. Good luck getting WPVN. I doubt it'll happen. I don't get why WWTO is in the guide if less than 10% of viewers in the area can get their signal. DirecTV has complained they have no more room for new OTA channels on the AM-21. Why not just remove WWTO, the erroneous WYIN feeds, the STA feeds for WLS, and then allow 26-4 and 24-1? Then again, I do have an education, and these types of suggestions go nowhere with those DirecTV clowns in California.

The UHF tuner in my HR20 receiver is broken, otherwise I would have the same problem with it as you do with the AM21. I use the TV's tuner to get OTA. My H20 can scan for local OTA, so I get WPVN without a problem. Even though it has it's own small 2 bay un-amplified antenna.

I believe FCC rule require Directv (and Dish) to carry WPVN now that it is a class A license station. WWTO is within the Chicago DMA so that is why that is carried. I can get it here if I swing the antenna around in that direction.

cable companies do not have to carry WWTO. An FCC ruling said it does not significantly serve the Chicago market.

I imagine that it's a bit like ION or Weigel's services, which are all available over cable/satellite as part of a national feed. TBN probably doesn't care much about Must Carry status, since they're already on Religious tier. Unlike most stations/services, where not being Must Carry means no access to cable viewers, Must Carry just means TBN's in the Local tier.

Someone want to check for WRKJ-LD, operating on UHF 24?

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101536342&formid=911&fac_num=68061

Edit: Corrected reversed letters in call sign and suffix. Thanks!
Edited by ADTech - 2/12/13 at 11:09am

Here's what I receive on RF24:

virtual 22,1, 22.2, 22.5, and 22.6: all have the PSIP name WRKJ-LD (not "RJK" nor "LP"), and all seem to be silent with a darkish blue bar across the top and the rest of the screen a lighter blue.

virtual 22.3: PSIP name is also WRKJ-LD but the bug reads "Diya TV" and what's on right now is something Bollywoodish.

virtual 22.4: PSIP name is also WRKJ-LD but all I can get are scattered pixel blocks that go back to black, with intermittent instants of undecipherable audio coming in.

All six channels are 720x480i.

This is with an ancient antenna just under nine miles NNW of downtown, aimed probably at the Prudential Building (where the sticks were in the old days).

Using DTT here in Schaumburg, I do pick it up. Signal is roughly just above the middle of the bar. 22.3 has the Indian stuff (I've seen AVS occasionally on one of the Comcast public access channels). 22.4 was just blank. The others were blue with flickering dark blue on the top.

If it's nine miles from downtown, that wouldn't be the Prudential Building. Besides the Prudential Annex, next door, is taller than it is. Could it be the old WTTW antenna?

I'm pretty sure he's talking about his antenna, the receiving antenna. Though you've got a good point about the Annex being taller, not that there'd be a significant difference in bearings at 9 miles out, though.

ALNielsen: Kc9hzn is right.  I was talking about the receiving antenna on my house's roof, which was aimed at the Prudential Building long before the Prudential Annex existed.  WTTW might not even have been on the air yet (WCIU certainly wasn't), so it may have been set just to get WBBM, WNBQ [now WMAQ], WBKB [now WLS], and WGN on VHF 2, 5, 7, and 9 respectively.  It has not been repositioned since then.  Some UHF elements may have been added later, or it just happens to receive UHF with little trouble.

According to the FCC filing at the link that ADTech gave, WRKJ's transmitter is at Willis Tower, if I read it right.

I read it wrong, sorry for the confusion.

Sorry for being unclear in the first place.

Much? and with VHF-DT? I disagree. WWTO doesn't even reliably cover north of I-290. Maybe 1/3 of the metro area, at best. I'll have to look up the article referencing that it is not a must-carry, maybe Trip knows where it is at..

This may be the document you're looking for. http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Orders/1997/da970545.txt Found it on Wikipedia, actually.

- Trip

It's WRKJ-LD.

There seems to be a longitude requirement for getting that right ...
 
Edited by dattier - 2/15/13 at 9:22am