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post #11491 of 12036
Thread Starter 
60.1 went to the Hancock recently, IIRC. Can't say what could cause you to lose 11, except 11 is harder to get on most antennas as they are tuned for the lower stations better. It is possible the snow is causing additional reflections to your signal, which is causing your tuner to not decode them properly. Given that WXFT and WTTW are on 50 and 47, respectively, I suspect that the snow is doing that. A minor tweak of the antenna may help.
post #11492 of 12036
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

I'd tend to disagree.

If they change at all, I see the bigger, higher-powered station's levels heading in a downwards direction in the future.

I know that in the FCC repacking proposal, it says that they would strongly consider boosting VHF power if and when it comes to pass.
We'll see, though.
post #11493 of 12036
I did a channel rescan today. I am now picking up 38.88. I can't find any info on this channel and it doesn't display anything but a black image.does anybody know what this channel is?
post #11494 of 12036
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Originally Posted by josh96 View Post

I did a channel rescan today. I am now picking up 38.88. I can't find any info on this channel and it doesn't display anything but a black image.does anybody know what this channel is?

It's an Airbox channel. You can't decode it without a subscription-based decoder. Google it.
post #11495 of 12036
Thanks i was just curious. I figured someone on here would know.
post #11496 of 12036
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

It's an Airbox channel. You can't decode it without a subscription-based decoder. Google it.

AirBox appears to be a subscription video service utilizing select ION stations for bandwidth.

From a PR last year....

AIRBOX – Pre-Paid TV for $10/Month + Access to Pay-Per-View Events

The over-the-air Pre-Paid subscription service AirBox,has launched it’s website www.airbox.com. It has complete information on it’s hardware, FreeMonth of Programming promotion and packages.

Paquete Latino, for $10 a month, is the basic service level with six channels: TeleFórmula,Cine Méxicano, Pasiones,Sorpresa, NFL Network and GolTV.

Starz movie channel can be added for an additional $10/month. Please visit www.airbox.comfor more info.

The current website still shows "Coming Soon"
post #11497 of 12036
Do they plan on cramming 7 channels into one broadcast subchannel?
post #11498 of 12036
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

Do they plan on cramming 7 channels into one broadcast subchannel?

It ain't MPEG-2... so MPEG-2 observations don't apply.
post #11499 of 12036
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

It ain't MPEG-2... so MPEG-2 observations don't apply.
MPG4?
post #11500 of 12036
Of course this is the last weekend of WLS operating on RF 7. The station is starting to accelerate the crawl count. Last night during Wheel of Fortune, they aired the crawl twice (during the start & end of the show), instead of only once, and during this morning's Windy City Live, the crawl was showned three times, instead of twice. Throughout all that time until now, the station hasn't verbally announced that viewers have to rescan its television systems on March 18th during its newscast or any ads/promos.

This will be an emotional day for me on March 18. Do anyone know the actual time at which they will turn off RF 7?
post #11501 of 12036
Okay After the station's 11am Newscast at 12pm on the high-noon, the RF 7 Frequency will be turned off. The crawl just stated.
Edited by csworldwide1 - 3/18/13 at 4:41am
post #11502 of 12036
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Originally Posted by csworldwide1 View Post

Okay After the station's 11am Newscast at 12pm on the high-noon. The RF 7 Frequency will be turned off. The crawl just stated.

I'm still seeing it's on as of 5:50 AM this morning on 3/18/13.
post #11503 of 12036
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Originally Posted by Mike_TV View Post

I'm still seeing it's on as of 5:50 AM this morning on 3/18/13.

And for the first time, the anchors are finally verbally announcing that people have to rescan today, during the morning news.
Edited by csworldwide1 - 3/18/13 at 4:40am
post #11504 of 12036
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Originally Posted by jdebuhr View Post

To test I will use the Tuner on the HDTV. If it gets the channels I want, I would have up to 6 HD tuners connected ( all will be together int he same location) I use SageTV and HDHomerun Tuners, I will put them near the COAX Outlet I have. The COAX run I believe is 25 ft up the wall into the attic. from what I remember.. I installed that run a while back but have not used it yet.

I just ordered both the Amp and antenna, and start with the Antenna only first

Finally installed it this weekend.. all channels work as I need

I just need to rescan for channel 7 tonight or the wife will not be happy.. LOL
post #11505 of 12036
For a moment, they had shut off the RF 44 signal, because my mom was complaining that it went out. I couldn't tell which one I had stored, since the menu option on the Insignia TV doesn't list RF channel. Fortunately, I had the right 7.1 & 7.2 saved (unchecked 7.3, or my mom would try to watch Livewell Network on 7.3 instead of 7.2), because it came back on.

Since they officially vacated RF 7, now it'll be anyone's guess who will apply for the channel now (maybe WCHU-LD again, since they applied for it before, but WLS-TV kept extending their STA's).
post #11506 of 12036
Okay at 12:03pm/CDT. WLS-TV has ceased operations on Physical Channel 7. At 12pm, RF 7 (not on RF 44, which is airing network programming) had anchor Sylvia Perez stating viewers to rescan your TV. The last words were (and I'm paraphrasing) ..."So Get Ready To Rescan as soon as the signal goes black". And about ten seconds later, the signal went away. After 64 and a half years, for the first time WLS-TV is not operating physically on Channel 7.

WLS-TV Chicago on RF 7
September 17, 1948 - March 18, 2013


RIP.
Edited by csworldwide1 - 3/18/13 at 11:11am
post #11507 of 12036
I should have mentioned that they shut off RF 44 for a few seconds by mistake. I had RF 44 on when it happened, then came back on.
post #11508 of 12036
RF7 and RF44 were both off for a few moments; then "The Chew" came on on RF44's 7.1, a repeat of Perez's feature from the 11:00 AM news (identical to what had aired around 11:54 AM) on RF7's 7.1, and "Windy City Live" on both 7.2's and both 7.3's.  When the repeat of Perez's report was over, all three channels of RF7 went dark.

I also noticed a marked power increase on RF44 after RF7 went dark, from the low 80's on my tuner's meter to the low 90's.
Edited by dattier - 3/18/13 at 10:34am
post #11509 of 12036
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

RF7 and RF44 were both off for a few moments; then "The Chew" came on on RF44's 7.1, a repeat of Perez's feature from the 11:00 AM news (identical to what had aired around 11:54 AM) on RF7's 7.1, and "Windy City Live" on both 7.2's and both 7.3's.  When the repeat of Perez's report was over, all three channels of RF7 went dark.

Sylvia's tape pieced was taped but before and after that taped peace, Sylvia did that live bit with that caption I stated above. Then ten seconds after it went black I saw that "No Signal" on my TV. After my "mourning process", I re-scan my tuner at about 12:30pm. I have an old TV Tuners, ever since WLS lighted 44, I see Telemundo's physical channel. After WLS turned off 7 and after my rescan, I can finally see Telemundo on its virtual channel again (44).
post #11510 of 12036
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Originally Posted by csworldwide1 View Post

WLS-TV Chicago on RF 7
September 17, 1948 - March 18, 2013


RIP.
It wasn't "WLS-TV" until 1968.  I'm old enough to remember it as WBKB (and WMAQ as WNBQ) before their call letters were changed and came to match those of their sister ratio stations.
post #11511 of 12036
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

It wasn't "WLS-TV" until 1968.  I'm old enough to remember it as WBKB (and WMAQ as WNBQ) before their call letters were changed and came to match those of their sister ratio stations.

And fifteen years before that, it was WENR, the first five years of operation......
post #11512 of 12036
Yup, but I (and probably you) know of the WENR call letters only as history, not from personal memories.
post #11513 of 12036
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

Yup, but I (and probably you) know of the WENR call letters only as history, not from personal memories.

Anyone remember W9XBK? smile.gif

The "BK" at the end provides something of a clue relevant to this thread about WLS-TV.
post #11514 of 12036
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Originally Posted by re_nelson View Post

Anyone remember W9XBK? smile.gif

The "BK" at the end provides something of a clue relevant to this thread about WLS-TV.

Balaban & Katz
post #11515 of 12036
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Originally Posted by csworldwide1 View Post

Okay at 12:03pm/CDT. WLS-TV has ceased operations on Physical Channel 7.

Being a frequent visitor and having a number of friends in Chicago, I follow this thread about as closely as I do for my home market. The transition day of 9 JUN 2009, soon to be four years ago, was a challenge for WLS-TV, to say the least. The engineering staff did everything they could to work around the problem and then ultimately heavily invested in what appears to be a superb UHF facility on RF-44.

And after all that considerable effort, I was surprised to see the sheer number of negative comments on the WLS-TV site:

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=9009875

Of course, those who take time to comment are those with a complaint. But making the move to the easier-to-receive UHF should not have presented the difficulties cited by many of the commenters. It had to be frustrating for WLS-TV to have undergone such a massive capital expenditure and still get so much negative feedback from viewers. For what it's worth, recently I was in one of the O'Hare terminals with a portable ATSC-capable receiver with a modest little whip antenna. WLS-TV on RF-44 was received without a breakup and was on par with WPWR according to the signal indicator. As expected in that environment, there was not a whiff of either WBBM-TV or the WLS-TV facility on RF-7.
Edited by re_nelson - 3/19/13 at 6:36pm
post #11516 of 12036
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Originally Posted by re_nelson View Post

Being a frequent visitor and having a number of friends in Chicago, I follow this thread about as closely as I do for my home market. The transition day of 9 JUN 2009, soon to be four years ago, was a challenge for WLS-TV, to say the least. The engineering staff did everything they could to work around the problem and then ultimately heavily invested in what appears to be a superb UHF facility on RF-44.

And after all that considerable effort, I was surprised to see the sheer number of negative comments on the WLS-TV site:

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=9009875

Of course, those who take time to comment are those with a complaint. But making the move to the easier-to-receive UHF should not have presented the difficulties cited by many of the commenters. It had to be frustrating for WLS-TV to have undergone such a massive capital expenditure and still get so much negative feedback from viewers. For what it's worth, recently I was in one of the O'Hare terminals with a portable ATSC-capable receiver with a modest little whip antenna. WLS-TV on RF-44 was received without a breakup and was on par with WPWR according to the signal indicator. As expected in that environment, there was not a whiff of either WBBM-TV or the WLS-TV facility on RF-7.

Until recently, WLS-TV has not had much luck with their RF 44 signal. The last antenna they installed, people in the city couldn't get their RF 44 signal at all, & for me in Gary, IN, the signal dropped out a lot. It has improved, but the signal strength in my area still isn't as strong as I would like to see it. If I were still using my Winegard HD9032 antenna, RF 44 would still give me problems, because that antenna from my experience, doesn't handle stations that broadcast in the mid 40 RF channel range too well. I also had too many problems with WCPX on RF 43 as well, & to a lesser extent, WSNS on RF 45. Since switching out to the original Antennas Direct DB8, I have no problems with those channels. For me, their VHF signal was still stronger in my direction than their UHF signal is. Despite being UHF only, not everyone will get their station clearly.
post #11517 of 12036
Hi folks,

I haven't been able to get the channel 20s--20.1, 20.2, 20.3--for the last couple of weeks. I've tried adjusting my indoor antenna, and readjusting it when I re-scanned to get WLS on UHF on March 18th. I live in Chicago near the lake. Does anyone know if something is going on with WYCC?
post #11518 of 12036
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Originally Posted by Salman50 View Post

I live in Chicago near the lake.
That's very vague.  How far north or south?

And that's assuming you mean Lake Michigan, rather than Lake Calumet or Wolf Lake.
post #11519 of 12036
Last night, I re-scanned my three TV's (Panasonic, Pioneer, Sharp) connected to the attic-mounted antenna to pick up Channel 7 on RF44, because none of them had the channel any longer, obviously. Interestingly, I have a small 20" TV in the kitchen (Vizio, I think) connected to rabbit ears, and that did not need to be re-scanned.

Mark
post #11520 of 12036
I live in Chicago at about 5000 south, close to Lake Michigan.
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