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post #7741 of 11588
1/16/10 at 12:51pm
Yes there is some tropo in the air even now at 2pm. Getting locks on WTMJ on and off also MPTV 36. Blips also on some of the other Milwaukee channels. WITI my old barn burner is not there locked (Thank you stupid local LPTV crap) RF 33 is about 1/4 scale blips with a black screen so the local is knocked out with no lock on anything. Maybe if tropo rocks bigtime later tonight I can see if WITI can stomp this local out and lock. That I would like to see.

WSBT from South Bend is showing me blips so thats nice to see again. Tropo has been dead for quite some time.
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post #7742 of 11588
1/16/10 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by tvropro View Post

Yes there is some tropo in the air even now at 2pm. Getting locks on WTMJ on and off also MPTV 36. Blips also on some of the other Milwaukee channels. WITI my old barn burner is not there locked (Thank you stupid local LPTV crap) RF 33 is about 1/4 scale blips with a black screen so the local is knocked out with no lock on anything. Maybe if tropo rocks bigtime later tonight I can see if WITI can stomp this local out and lock. That I would like to see.

WSBT from South Bend is showing me blips so thats nice to see again. Tropo has been dead for quite some time.

I can always tell when tropo's around by how many radio stations I loose.
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post #7743 of 11588
1/16/10 at 5:24pm
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As of 6 PM Saturday, I am locking today:

WOTV-DT Grand Rapids, MI (rf 20)
KLBJ-DT FOX Quad Cities, IA/IL (rf 49)
All full-power Milwaukee stations (including channel 8/PBS/MPTV 60 degrees off-angle)
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post #7744 of 11588
1/16/10 at 7:36pm
At 7:15pm I could get:
WPTA, WANE Ft. Wayne, IN
WSBT, WBND-LP, WCWW-LP, WMYS-LP (yep the analogs, snowy but watchable), WSJV, WHME, WNIT South Bend, IN
KLJB Quad Cities
and the biggie for me.......
WEWS Toledo OH. Watched the Ohio Lottery!

All from my stationary medium array!
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post #7745 of 11588
1/16/10 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by sebenste View Post

As of 6 PM Saturday, I am locking today:

WOTV-DT Grand Rapids, MI (rf 20)
KLBJ-DT FOX Quad Cities, IA/IL (rf 49)
All full-power Milwaukee stations (including channel 8/PBS/MPTV 60 degrees off-angle)

Just check tropo at almost 10pm not too strong by me, limited in and out of a few Milwaukee's and blips on 22 South Bend. Guess I won't see WITI kick RF 33 in Chicago's butt today... oh well. Back to programming new DVB finds on Ku band.
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post #7746 of 11588
1/16/10 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by hvs10trk View Post

I can always tell when tropo's around by how many radio stations I loose.

Being some distance from Chicago you will notice it quite a bit more than I do locally. Usually once you get west of route 59 Chicago radio will fall apart in tropo. Since I spend 99% of my time watching my satellite dishes or listening to them I don't have a clue when tropo is happening. I check every now and again with my DTT-900 and my DX stack. But things have been so dead with winter I haven't tried much like in the summer. I miss WITI and how it used to stomp in here all last summer long. Im surprised Im only getting blips on WSBT thats the other barn burner in the summer. My heart ain't in it like in the 80's with analog.
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post #7747 of 11588
1/16/10 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by hvs10trk View Post

At 7:15pm I could get:
WPTA, WANE Ft. Wayne, IN
WSBT, WBND-LP, WCWW-LP, WMYS-LP (yep the analogs, snowy but watchable), WSJV, WHME, WNIT South Bend, IN
KLJB Quad Cities
and the biggie for me.......
WEWS Toledo OH. Watched the Ohio Lottery!

All from my stationary medium array!

Nice hits. I used to get into Toledo Ohio back in the 80's with analog using my Winegard CS 9095 and CS 4052 antennas on my rotor back then. I never forget one warm summer night I was getting all of South Bend, Fort Wayne, Toledo, Detroit, and Windsor Ontario. That was on my old 1983 Zenith 19" color set. That thing had a hell of a tuner in it for Analog DX. Those were the days
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post #7748 of 11588
1/16/10 at 10:24pm
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Consider the following, all done around 11:30 PM from my CM 4228 antenna in my attic, fairly low in a river valley out here in the frozen corn...all of these are first-timers for me, except the last two...

WDCQ-DT rf 15, Bad Axe, MI (far eastern MI, near the Canada border, PBS affiliate):

http://weather.admin.niu.edu/gilbert...o/DSC00016.JPG

WKBD-DT rf 14 (50.1), Detroit, MI (CW affiliate):

http://weather.admin.niu.edu/gilbert...o/DSC00017.JPG

WNEM-DT rf 22 (5.1), Bay City, MI:

http://weather.admin.niu.edu/gilbert...o/DSC00018.JPG

WCMU-DT, rf 26, Mt. Pleasant, MI (PBS affiliate, no picture)

WEWS-DT rf 15, (5.1) Cleveland, OH (ABC affiliate, no picture)

WRTV-DT rf 25 (6.1), Indianapolis, IN (ABC affiliate, no picture)

A friend who lives in Elburn has a VU-190XR from Radio Shack on a Channelmaster 7777
preamp in his second-story attic. He easily locked WISE-DT 33.1, Fort Wayne, IN.

WOW!
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post #7749 of 11588
1/17/10 at 5:09am
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Originally Posted by sebenste View Post

Consider the following, all done around 11:30 PM from my CM 4228 antenna in my attic, fairly low in a river valley out here in the frozen corn...all of these are first-timers for me, except the last two...

WDCQ-DT rf 15, Bad Axe, MI (far eastern MI, near the Canada border, PBS affiliate):

http://weather.admin.niu.edu/gilbert...o/DSC00016.JPG

WKBD-DT rf 14 (50.1), Detroit, MI (CW affiliate):

http://weather.admin.niu.edu/gilbert...o/DSC00017.JPG

WNEM-DT rf 22 (5.1), Bay City, MI:

http://weather.admin.niu.edu/gilbert...o/DSC00018.JPG

WCMU-DT, rf 26, Mt. Pleasant, MI (PBS affiliate, no picture)

WEWS-DT rf 14, (5.1) Toledo, OH (ABC affiliate, no picture)

WRTV-DT rf 25 (6.1), Indianapolis, IN (ABC affiliate, no picture)

A friend who lives in Elburn has a VU-190XR from Radio Shack on a Channelmaster 7777
preamp in his second-story attic. He easily locked WISE-DT 33.1, Fort Wayne, IN.

WOW!

Must be because your away from the city that your getting so many channels. Over here in town the UHF band is so congested I don't stand a chance.

Im sure if tropo was coming in here like in the summer WITI would have stomped WCHU. They did kill it with the weak tropo I got but didn't override for a lock.

BTW any chances of WCHU moving anytime soon? I haven't kept up with the news.
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post #7750 of 11588
1/17/10 at 6:15am
I also picked up a few last night on my DTT and common-apartment antenna:
WSBT, WNDU and WNIT, which I've received before.
New ones were WISE (RF18, 33.1, Fort Wayne?) and WEWS (isn't it RF15, not 14?. Wikipedia says it's Cleveland, not Toledo).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEWS

On the other hand, WYIN and WJYS were gone.

Virtually every RF channel was showing something on the DTT's bar, too bad most were not strong enough to lock into something.

Also, at one time, when I tried RF17, it changed the virtual from 56 to 3, although I never got a picture. Is there an RF17 with a virtual of 3 someplace?
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post #7751 of 11588
1/17/10 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

I also picked up a few last night on my DTT and common-apartment antenna:
WSBT, WNDU and WNIT, which I've received before.
New ones were WISE (RF18, 33.1, Fort Wayne?) and WEWS (isn't it RF15, not 14?. Wikipedia says it's Cleveland, not Toledo).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEWS

On the other hand, WYIN and WJYS were gone.

Virtually every RF channel was showing something on the DTT's bar, too bad most were not strong enough to lock into something.

Also, at one time, when I tried RF17, it changed the virtual from 56 to 3, although I never got a picture. Is there an RF17 with a virtual of 3 someplace?

Nice catches, andyross. Yes, WISE (NBC) is Fort Wayne and WEWS, Cleveland is on RF channel 15. Since you received WEWS, your virtual channel 3/RF channel 17 station was most likely WKYC (NBC), Cleveland.

Steve
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post #7752 of 11588
1/17/10 at 8:20am
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

I also picked up a few last night on my DTT and common-apartment antenna:
WSBT, WNDU and WNIT, which I've received before.
New ones were WISE (RF18, 33.1, Fort Wayne?) and WEWS (isn't it RF15, not 14?. Wikipedia says it's Cleveland, not Toledo).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEWS

On the other hand, WYIN and WJYS were gone.

Virtually every RF channel was showing something on the DTT's bar, too bad most were not strong enough to lock into something.

Also, at one time, when I tried RF17, it changed the virtual from 56 to 3, although I never got a picture. Is there an RF17 with a virtual of 3 someplace?

I just did some stepping through the channels in manual mode, Im showing some blips here and there and locked WNDU on the South Bend DX ant. The Milwaukee DX ant is locking WTMJ, MPTV 36, CBS 58. Don't know why Im only getting blips on WSBT? Maybe some other DX is knocking it out.

WCHU is gone WITI has got it knocked out but no lock on WITI. I wonder how many people that actually watch WCHU is having problems today? (summer tropo would really do a number) This is good, I hope CHU get's the message to vacate RF 33!
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post #7753 of 11588
1/17/10 at 8:35am
Now I know why WSBT isn't coming in. Im getting WVCY RF22 Milwaukee knocking it out.
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post #7754 of 11588
1/17/10 at 11:47am
And I cannot believe that this Tropo is so strong during the day...WKOW is like a local here at 2pm! Didn't lock anything from Ohio, too bad, I moved to Wheeling a while back and don't get any stations from South Bend anymore. But soild locks last night on KLJB/KWKB and WMBD, using a 4221 indoors on the 3rd floor.

A friend of mine a few miles away has a 4221 and a 7777 preamp also and a DTT901 - last night he was locking WYZZ 43 and here is the best part - the antenna is facing a window, but in the basement! THAT is a new one, but it really did happen. I'd say this Tropo is better that what we had all summer last year.
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post #7755 of 11588
1/17/10 at 12:25pm
Yea I have been getting WITI reliably for the past two days now with no breakups from kankakee county! This station has been coming in better than many of my local stations :YIKES ! Im also gettign MPTV, WMLW, and other stations with out any effort.

Still no luck getting any of the low power stations from downtown though.
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post #7756 of 11588
1/17/10 at 12:30pm
Getting WOTV out of Grand Rapids. I wonder if I should move the antenna to see if I can get anything out of canada.
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post #7757 of 11588
1/17/10 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by goldrich View Post

Nice catches, andyross. Yes, WISE (NBC) is Fort Wayne and WEWS, Cleveland is on RF channel 15. Since you received WEWS, your virtual channel 3/RF channel 17 station was most likely WKYC (NBC), Cleveland.

Steve

Thanks, Steve, for the correction...I had it as Cleveland originally, but then I changed it to Columbus for whatever reason. So much tropo my head was spinning! And Andy, nice PSIP catch from Cleveland!

And yes, this is the best tropo I have seen so early in the year in 20+ years of DX'ing, and also better than anything except for one time last year. This will keep going until Tuesday, so keep trying, folks!
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post #7758 of 11588
1/17/10 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by goaliebob99 View Post

Getting WOTV out of Grand Rapids. I wonder if I should move the antenna to see if I can get anything out of canada.

Canada DTV stations are here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ions_in_Canada
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post #7759 of 11588
1/17/10 at 1:46pm
Stations Picked up

WOTV
WITI
WTWO (great PQ!) way better than WMAQ!
WCID
WFXW
WISH
WTHR
WFLI
WFYI
WIPB
WRTV (another great pq beats WLS )
WXYZ
wndu
WJSV
WINT
Channel 40 ANALOGUE COMING IN AWESOME! SHOWING WHEEL OF FORTUNE! (CBC OUT OF CANADA!) THIS IS THE LONG HAUL OF THE DAY!
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post #7760 of 11588
1/17/10 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by sebenste View Post

And yes, this is the best tropo I have seen so early in the year in 20+ years of DX'ing, and also better than anything except for one time last year. This will keep going until Tuesday, so keep trying, folks!

It must be because I never pick up anything when this happens (I have a ClearStream 4 mounted indoors on a tripod) but I was able to pick up WRTV in Indianapolis this afternoon between 12:00pm and 2:00pm. See attached pictures: (1) (2)

WRET-HD (6.1) just had an infomercial going so I capped WRET-DT (6.2) instead as they had the news/weather on. I wish there was some meteorological anomaly that would allow me to pick up WYCC. Sigh.
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post #7761 of 11588
1/17/10 at 2:06pm
I have came to the conclusion that 90 percent of the stations pass on what the network sends and have outstanding pq, unless you live in Chicago that is.
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post #7762 of 11588
1/17/10 at 2:16pm
WJYS is lost here; I don't know if the signal isn't reaching us or some other RF36 is knocking it out during these tropo times. WYIN is unaffected.

On another note, 13-4 dropped the Slingbox screensaver and was blank and silent; today it's blank with a buzz.
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post #7763 of 11588
1/17/10 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by goaliebob99 View Post

Yea I have been getting WITI reliably for the past two days now with no breakups from kankakee county! This station has been coming in better than many of my local stations :YIKES ! Im also gettign MPTV, WMLW, and other stations with out any effort.

Still no luck getting any of the low power stations from downtown though.

I'll trade with you... you can have these LPTV foreign junk. I'll take WITI and them
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post #7764 of 11588
1/17/10 at 3:13pm
Anybody have trouble with OTA/decoder boxes reception of NBC 5.1?

I'm on the NW side of Chicago, and lost NBC last night. weather related? I'm getting tired of these decoder boxes.
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post #7765 of 11588
1/17/10 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by rexgo View Post

Anybody have trouble with OTA/decoder boxes reception of NBC 5.1?

I'm on the NW side of Chicago, and lost NBC last night. weather related? I'm getting tired of these decoder boxes.

Most likely not your CECB. There has been a major tropo event today. This is causing TV signals to travel farther than normal. This also causes interference with your locals.
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post #7766 of 11588
1/17/10 at 3:59pm
Thanks much - I usually can tell when something's wrong. I'm still getting tired of the CECB's - with LCD TV's getting cheaper....
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post #7767 of 11588
1/17/10 at 4:14pm
I'm enjoying the other end of the tropo ducting that is in place tonight. I locked a watchable signal on WYIN DT 17. I am in Holly, MI about 45 miles NW of downtown Detroit! I live in a semi rural area, and at an elevation about 200 ft above average. Also locked on a few other Indiana stations. Hoping I 'might' capture something from Chicagoland proper. Using a simple little Radio Shack VU 90 with Winegard preamp and rotor outdoors.
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post #7768 of 11588
1/17/10 at 5:45pm
Oh well, so much for watching the Golden Globe awards tonight. No signal on either channel.
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post #7769 of 11588
1/17/10 at 8:29pm
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Originally Posted by tvropro View Post

I'll trade with you... you can have these LPTV foreign junk. I'll take WITI and them

I'll agree with that. I'm getting tired of all this low power crap-o-vision.
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post #7770 of 11588
1/18/10 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by rosepetal9 View Post

Oh well, so much for watching the Golden Globe awards tonight. No signal on either channel.

PA System Announcement: "Comcast, please turn the lights off @ NBC, the last viewer has left the building"


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