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post #1 of 11
3/7/07 at 3:03pm
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4:3 mode with black bars for SD can lead to IR or BI, right? So an excellent panorama-type stretch mode seems pretty important for a plasma panel. Fat heads are an Achilles heel IMHO. It's tough to test this at BB and CC with their limited feeds, but it's clear many brands stretch SD poorly; listening Samsung? [excuse that editorial] Pioneer, Phillips, and HP appear to do a good job, but again, I can't be sure. So which panels do this the best?
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post #2 of 11
3/7/07 at 3:11pm
NEC and Pioneer. Of course, you will pay a premium for the better ability. After that, any panel with something equivalent to a "just" mode, where the middle of the picture is stretched less than the sides, is OK. Can't speak for the other brands, but my Panny does a halfway decent job.
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post #3 of 11
3/7/07 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Raminski View Post

NEC and Pioneer...After that, any panel with something equivalent to a "just" mode,....

Thanks! I guess part of my newbie problem is figuring out which panels support a decent "just" mode. There seems to be little consistency in the labels used for aspect ratio settings from brand to brand. So I'm hoping for some real world feedback.
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post #4 of 11
3/7/07 at 3:23pm
I'm still (after over three months) blown away at how good SD analog looks on my Pio 5070. I wouldn't hesitate to do it all over again. Well, maybe I would opt for the 6070 as the 50-incher seems to be "shrinking."
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post #5 of 11
3/7/07 at 3:56pm
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I'm still (after over three months) blown away at how good SD analog looks on my Pio 5070. I wouldn't hesitate to do it all over again. Well, maybe I would opt for the 6070 as the 50-incher seems to be "shrinking."

I second every word of this post. My next panel is going to be a 6070 and move the 5070 to the bedroom.
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post #6 of 11
3/7/07 at 4:04pm
Yeah, I'm thinking of a 4270 for the bedroom... currently have a 50" NEC in the bedroom, wife hates it. Think I may move it to the living room.
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post #7 of 11
3/7/07 at 5:35pm
My vote....NEC 50XR6A. Great SD and the best zoom/stretch feature you can get INMHO.
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post #8 of 11
3/7/07 at 9:08pm
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Originally Posted by itwonder View Post

4:3 mode with black bars for SD can lead to IR or BI, right? So an excellent panorama-type stretch mode seems pretty important for a plasma panel. Fat heads are an Achilles heel IMHO. It's tough to test this at BB and CC with their limited feeds, but it's clear many brands stretch SD poorly; listening Samsung? [excuse that editorial] Pioneer, Phillips, and HP appear to do a good job, but again, I can't be sure. So which panels do this the best? . . . .

. . . . I guess part of my newbie problem is figuring out which panels support a decent "just" mode. There seems to be little consistency in the labels used for aspect ratio settings from brand to brand. So I'm hoping for some real world feedback.

I have no experience with NEC or Fujitsu SD stretch modes nor have i seen any screen shots, but everybody says they're among the best. If you can come up with screen shots for these two brands you can make your own determinations. I would like to see them myself as i've seen all the other brands' stretch modes.

Being a big SD watcher, i like the Pioneer Consumer model's Cinema mode the best of all the other brands' stretch modes that i have seen. It seems to be the least "un-natural" looking.

Here are a couple good threads with info on the Pioneer Consumer model SD Stretch Modes:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...nema+wide+just

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...nema+wide+just


And One on Panasonic's two different Just modes (Industrial vs Consumer):

http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/...ight=just+mode
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post #9 of 11
3/8/07 at 6:17am
The NEC has a zoom + and - button on the remote. Every time you press it, it enlarges (zooms) the picture (in all directions) an 1/8 of an inch or maybe a little more every time you press it-thus keeping the proportion constant. I have to practice taking screen shots then I will post some....got a new NIKON D80 on the way.
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post #10 of 11
3/8/07 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by Marky_Mark896 View Post

Yeah, I'm thinking of a 4270 for the bedroom... currently have a 50" NEC in the bedroom, wife hates it. Think I may move it to the living room.

Bah your supposed to upgrade screen size, not downgrade! Tell her you think you need an 8th gen 60" for the bedroom !
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post #11 of 11
3/8/07 at 6:30am
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Originally Posted by itwonder View Post

4:3 mode with black bars for SD can lead to IR or BI, right? So an excellent panorama-type stretch mode seems pretty important for a plasma panel. Fat heads are an Achilles heel IMHO. It's tough to test this at BB and CC with their limited feeds, but it's clear many brands stretch SD poorly; listening Samsung? [excuse that editorial] Pioneer, Phillips, and HP appear to do a good job, but again, I can't be sure. So which panels do this the best?

As others have said, Pioneer and NEC are probably the best two for handling SD content...wonderful processors on those TV's.
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