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post #61 of 95
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Originally Posted by little leo View Post

I have to ask. Why are people suporting the gimic and ( just a way to make more money) of hd dvd, or blue ray. IMO first off, they both wont make it so buying one right now is just foolish. Two, you need a complete upgrade on your whole system, if you are running comp switching, and you have to make sure your tv is converting to 1080p also. To me its just not worth the money to rebuy all my dvd's and or a new player, I do have the xbox and ps3 so that will be the only players I will use, but I never use them to watch movies. All my movies are played through my arcam dv78. Third to me to really get a picture better then this, kinda takes away from the movie in the first place, when you see any movie on screen its great, large, and fit to the screan, but they are not in HD, you see grain, imperfections, and thats what makes movies great. Sound wise do any of use even use dts, what is your favorite format. thx is really a gimic and if you dont have a over large room you really should only use 5.1 Just me I know I will piss alot of people off on this, I just think this is just one more way that people waste money and give in to supply's just to make money. REmember when everyone said cd was the way to go, and its better then vynle? Well If you have any ear at all, you know cd's cant compare to the sound you get on records, same things go for when they came out with ss amps, now everyone wants to get back to tubes, stop destroying the pure of the hobby. Enough is enough.


Well why didn't you just stick with VHS? Why didn't you (or anyone else for that matter) stick with reel to reel for audio? Why did people change from 8 to 16 to 32 and now 64 bit computers? Why didn't we just stay with VGA instead of moving to SVGA? Why don't we stick with big bulb crts? Why in the heck did we have to have plasma, lcd, etc.? Why didn't we just stick with mono? Why did we have to go to stereo and then 5.1, 6.1, 7.1? Why didn't we just stick with thatched roofs and horses?
post #62 of 95
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Originally Posted by HPforMe View Post

Why didn't we just stick with thatched roofs and horses?



Back on topic. Art mentioned The Big Sleep (which I have on SD). Yep. Lets add that one to the list of "oldies" I'd love to see in HD
post #63 of 95
Because thatched roofs can't support the weight of CRTs of course!
post #64 of 95
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Originally Posted by little leo View Post

I have to ask. Why are people suporting the gimic and ( just a way to make more money) of hd dvd, or blue ray. IMO first off, they both wont make it so buying one right now is just foolish. Two, you need a complete upgrade on your whole system, if you are running comp switching, and you have to make sure your tv is converting to 1080p also. To me its just not worth the money to rebuy all my dvd's and or a new player, I do have the xbox and ps3 so that will be the only players I will use, but I never use them to watch movies. All my movies are played through my arcam dv78. Third to me to really get a picture better then this, kinda takes away from the movie in the first place, when you see any movie on screen its great, large, and fit to the screan, but they are not in HD, you see grain, imperfections, and thats what makes movies great. Sound wise do any of use even use dts, what is your favorite format. thx is really a gimic and if you dont have a over large room you really should only use 5.1 Just me I know I will piss alot of people off on this, I just think this is just one more way that people waste money and give in to supply's just to make money. REmember when everyone said cd was the way to go, and its better then vynle? Well If you have any ear at all, you know cd's cant compare to the sound you get on records, same things go for when they came out with ss amps, now everyone wants to get back to tubes, stop destroying the pure of the hobby. Enough is enough.

This is a simple one. It sounds like you care about audio quality,if one has any consideration for video presentation quality and you aren't getting HD optical you aren't seeing anything close to the best video presentation available period.

Art
post #65 of 95
HD is not a gimmick. The resolution proves that, it's real and I didn't have to update one piece of equipment. Component and optical tos have been out for quite a while now. Other then that Leo you have a point. Now to enjoy the best in AQ you may need a receiver with analogs in (that is hit and miss) or HDMI, which you might consider new'ish and a new receiver could be in order. But with either you will have better AQ over DVD and again it won't be a gimmick, it is scientifically better. Many people report that they are "blown away" by the increase in quality.
post #66 of 95
I shouldn't reply to obvious flamebait:
Lil leo, does your retro stance extend to not using the paragraph form of posting?
It makes drivel, off topic posts and unsubstantiated claims much easier to ignore

To continue, there are hundreds of classic movies I'm looking forward to.
One of my all timers has got to be The Best Years of Our Lives.
What an absolutely perfect movie,imo. I laughed, I cried. Literally.
BTW anyone know who owns the rights to Samuel Goldwyn productions?
These would be a treasure trove.
If you say Sony\\MGM, I'll puke.
post #67 of 95
Speaking of 'classic' movies, I saw "Cover Girl" on TCM the other night. It starred Rita Hayworth and Gene Kelly. I'll tell ya' guys she was one helluva' knockout.

It's distributed by Columbia and may never make it out of the vault; but I'd love to see this in 1080p Technicolor. I've never been in to song-n-dance routines, but this was a very good movie. Or maybe I just enjoyed looking at Rita. Beautiful Rita.
post #68 of 95
Never seen this movie. Bought it after seeing this thread. Watched it last night. Wow. I was totally fooled at the end, great classic film.
post #69 of 95
Yeah, the second was sadly disappointing.
post #70 of 95
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Originally Posted by madpoet View Post

Yeah, the second was sadly disappointing.

Yes. Saying that however, the "first" Sting was a very hard act to follow
And it does look stunning in HD!
post #71 of 95
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Originally Posted by mobius View Post

Speaking of 'classic' movies, I saw "Cover Girl" on TCM the other night. It starred Rita Hayworth and Gene Kelly. I'll tell ya' guys she was one helluva' knockout.

It's distributed by Columbia and may never make it out of the vault; but I'd love to see this in 1080p Technicolor. I've never been in to song-n-dance routines, but this was a very good movie. Or maybe I just enjoyed looking at Rita. Beautiful Rita.

My opinion is Rita was the best looking woman in Hollywood around that time and one of the best looking ever in film.

Art
post #72 of 95
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Originally Posted by little leo View Post

I have to ask. Why are people suporting the gimic and ( just a way to make more money) of hd dvd, or blue ray. IMO first off, they both wont make it so buying one right now is just foolish. Two, you need a complete upgrade on your whole system, if you are running comp switching, and you have to make sure your tv is converting to 1080p also. To me its just not worth the money to rebuy all my dvd's and or a new player, I do have the xbox and ps3 so that will be the only players I will use, but I never use them to watch movies. All my movies are played through my arcam dv78. Third to me to really get a picture better then this, kinda takes away from the movie in the first place, when you see any movie on screen its great, large, and fit to the screan, but they are not in HD, you see grain, imperfections, and thats what makes movies great. Sound wise do any of use even use dts, what is your favorite format. thx is really a gimic and if you dont have a over large room you really should only use 5.1 Just me I know I will piss alot of people off on this, I just think this is just one more way that people waste money and give in to supply's just to make money. REmember when everyone said cd was the way to go, and its better then vynle? Well If you have any ear at all, you know cd's cant compare to the sound you get on records, same things go for when they came out with ss amps, now everyone wants to get back to tubes, stop destroying the pure of the hobby. Enough is enough.

Where did this guy come from? Nothing personal, but do you really think we can't SEE a difference? Or, appreciate it for that matter? (audio is a different animal).
Waste? Compared to what? I waited four plus years for this. Permit me to enjoy my adventure. Thankyou very much.

Fletcher said it best, "It takes all kinds to make a world."
post #73 of 95
leo, you're trolling, now knock it off and move on.
Why not go to a Tube Amp forum and make your "point" there about how tubes suck. None of your posts have anything to do with the thread topic.
BTW it's spelled gimmick not gimic.
post #74 of 95
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Originally Posted by little leo View Post

All im stating is that blue ray and or hd dvd players are a gimic if you dont have all the equipment that you need to have a ful 1080p.

I've had a display that could accept and display (although not resolve completely) HD for over ten years. I've been waiting for prerecorded HD on disc for that long. There is a large difference on good displays and a difference that makes looking at SD difficult afterwards on better displays.

I think you simply don't have the gear or the eye or both . I agree if that's all there was to your original post you need to move on since you simply don't get it.

Art
post #75 of 95
so what the heck is this movie about? i've never seen it, is it fun?
is this a "blind buy?"
post #76 of 95
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Originally Posted by darryl b View Post

so what the heck is this movie about? i've never seen it, is it fun?
is this a "blind buy?"

The Sting is one of the greatest movies ever made IMO. It's about a friend getting killed by a mobster and getting even. Any more will spoil it but it is a great great film and looks very nice on HDDVD.

Art
post #77 of 95
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Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn View Post

There is a large difference on good displays and a difference that makes looking at SD difficult afterwards on better displays.

Art

Here, here. I'm in the same boat without the benefit of Art's State of the Art (pun intended) setup. HDDVD is a Godsend and anything less simply won't do anymore...at over 100 inches that is.
post #78 of 95
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Originally Posted by AES256 View Post

You're in for a treat. One of the best films made (IMHO of course). And a good introduction to Scott Joplin, for those who aren't familiar with his Ragtime music from the early 1900s.

I agree. This is one of the best 'crafted' movies I've ever seen and it's thoroughly enjoyable. While it's not the HD DVD movie I'd put on to show off the format it's never looked better. If you're a movie buff, this deserves to be in your collection.
post #79 of 95
Finally watched this great movie in its entirety on HD DVD.
PQ isn't the greatest when compared to some of the available visual feasts on HD, but I hadn't watched The Sting in over a year and boy does this HD DVD version bring the movie to life.
The source material doesn't seem to be that great but more subtle things come out crystal clear on screen in HD. The actor's suits and shirts no longer shimmer (like they do on SD) allowing the complex patterns and texture of the cloth (all picked by the costume dpt. to be as authentic to the 1930s as possible) to finally just be enjoyed.
Room interiors are a joy to peruse. And little things like the scene where from across the street we see Hooker arrive at the merry-go-round building, you can now clearly see Eileen Brennan in the shade of the stairwell sweeping the stairs. This and many other details, I'd never noticed before on SD.
Worth the upgrade to HD DVD? Most definitely.

Is the movie worth it? Should I even be asking this question?
It's probably (IMO certainly) one of the best movies ever made, which any film buff should at least see twice; once while trying to follow the twists and turns of the plot, and the second and all subsequent times to work out what's actually going on

In the extras, the comment is made that there's always something new to discover when watching The Sting again. There is. I've watched this movie some thirty times since first discovering it the 80s, and yet again picked up some new things, that clarified the plot and characters, watching it on HD DVD this evening.
post #80 of 95
I saw this when it first came out or shortly after on campus. A wonderful film with some great performances. Redford and Newman of course. Then there is the late greats Robert Shaw and Ray Walston and Harold Gould, just for starters. Of course there is Marvin Hamlisch's Oscar winning adaptation of Scott Joplin's music. Ok time to get this on HD DVd be back after a BB run to fry off my 10% rewards zone coupon.

Gary
post #81 of 95
I watched this HD DVD movie for the third time just last week. What a wonderful movie. It won't win any PQ or AQ contests due to the source, but it is excellent in both departments, and still is the best presentation you're going to see at home.

I can't recommend this title enough.
post #82 of 95
Does "The Sting" have edge enhancement like so many of Universal's other catalog releases?

Thanks,
Tom
post #83 of 95
It does not appear to have edge enhancement. While I agree this won't win any picture quality contests, it has a very authentic filmlike presentation IMHO.
post #84 of 95
Just finished watching the disc, and can verify that there is NO edge enhancement. Like earlier posters, I'm not particularly interested in 90% of the new releases that are issued in HD (RUSH HOUR 3? please) and the various junky catalog films. Consequently, it's a total and utter pleasure to see films like THE STING, THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD, FORBIDDEN PLANET, and THE SEARCHERS out there and looking so good. All films deserve the best presentation possible, no matter how poor the film, but it seems to me that there should be a lot more interest in maximizing the presentation quality of classics like these rather than the latest Keanu Reeves film. Discs like THE STING are gifts to movie fans. In my mind, it's one of the most impressive transfers I've seen so far. KING KONG might get the nod in terms of pure demo material, but THE STING is a truly great transfer - an accurate and faithful representation of how the movie looked on film (which, BTW, I've seen as recently as December). A belated kudos to Universal.
post #85 of 95
What are you guys smoking? The Sting looked like utter horse **** on my XA2.
post #86 of 95
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Originally Posted by D-X View Post

What are you guys smoking? The Sting looked like utter horse **** on my XA2.

Hmmm, what are YOU smoking? I also have an XA2, but it doesn't have a display!!!??!
post #87 of 95
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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

Hmmm, what are YOU smoking? I also have an XA2, but it doesn't have a display!!!??!

Nice.

For what it's worth, I watched it on an XA2. Looked great.

Who knows...
post #88 of 95
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Originally Posted by win200 View Post

Nice.

For what it's worth, I watched it on an XA2. Looked great.

Who knows...

It was terrible. In two separate scene I saw screen tearing for petes sake!
post #89 of 95
I have watched this movie on the XA2 and RS1 and I thought it looked great too. Also, I wanted to chime in on how much I enjoy this movie. The poker game scene on the train, is likely me all time favorite scene in any movie. Paul Newman at his best.
post #90 of 95
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Originally Posted by D-X View Post

It was terrible. In two separate scene I saw screen tearing for petes sake!

Sad isn't it? The Sting is one of the greats, but sadly the masters of these movies are not being taking care of, well not all of them. Hopefully more movies can be transfered and cleaned up before they turn to goo.

I sure not everyone agrees with me, but my wife and I love the classics. Of course I like a good shoot em film just like everyone else, but there was a time before special effects ruled, when the story had to draw you in.
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