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2007 NCAA Men's Basketball Championship in HDTV on CBS - First Round Thursday/Friday!

post #1 of 268
3/15/07 at 7:40am
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Please place only related comments for Thursday & Friday First Round games on CBS in this topic. (All DirecTV Mega March Madness comments belong in this topic: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=819913 )

It's very important to be specific with your info, including location, station call letters, and source - Local over-the-air reception / Cable / DirecTV (channel number / MPEG4 locals or NYC/LA) / Dish Network (channel number / MPEG4 locals or NYC/LA).

Thanks in advance for your participation at AVS.

All Times ET

Thursday's Games:
12:20 pm Davidson #13 Maryland #4
12:25 pm Texas Tech #10 Boston College #7
12:30 pm Stanford #11 Louisville #6
2:30 pm Oral Roberts #14 Washington St. #3
2:40 pm Old Dominion #12 Butler #5
2:45 pm Belmont #15 Georgetown #2
2:50 pm Penn #14 Texas A&M #3
4:40 pm G. Washington #11 Vanderbilt #6
7:10 pm VCU #11 Duke #6
7:10 pm Central Conn. St. #16 Ohio St. #1
7:20 pm Michigan St. #9 Marquette #8
7:25 pm Weber St. #15 UCLA #2
9:30 pm Wright St. #14 Pittsburgh #3
9:30 pm Xavier #9 Brigham Young #8
9:40 pm Gonzaga #10 Indiana #7
9:40 pm Eastern Ky. #16 North Carolina #1

Friday's Games:
12:15 pm Albany #13 Virginia #4
12:25 pm Georgia Tech #10 UNLV #7
12:30 pm North Texas #15 Memphis #2
2:30 pm Winthrop #11 Notre Dame #6
2:35 pm Long Beach St. #12 Tennessee #5
2:45 pm Tex. A&M-Corp. Chris. #15 Wisconsin #2
2:50 pm Creighton #10 Nevada #7
4:40 pm Miami (Ohio) #14 Oregon #3
7:10 pm Illinois #12 Virginia Tech #5
7:10 pm Niagara #17 Kansas #1
7:20 pm Purdue #9 Arizona #8
7:25 pm New Mexico St. #13 Texas #4
9:30 pm Holy Cross #13 Southern Ill. #4
9:30 pm Villanova #9 Kentucky #8
9:40 pm Arkansas #12 Southern Cal #5
9:40 pm Jackson St. #16 Florida #1
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post #2 of 268
3/15/07 at 7:45am
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As previously noted, CBS Sports will cover all games in HD, but not all games will be in HD all the time. Here's why:

Typically, Flex Regions cover 80%-90%, while Constant Regions cover 10%-20% of the US.

For each Window or Time Slot:
- If the local affiliate is in a Flex Region, they will broadcast the game is HD.

- If the local affiliate is in a Constant Region, they will upconvert the SD Constant Feed.

This provides the most HD possible, while keeping the programming Correct regarding locality.

The decisions as to which games go where remain as in the past with HD exactly following the SD network. (As always, local affiliates may deviate from this.)

For more on how CBS has decided to handle the coverage (Flex & Constant Regions), please see this topic: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=817525
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post #3 of 268
3/15/07 at 9:35am
WTOL-DT has Stanford-Louisville

WWJ-DT has Texas Tech-BC
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post #4 of 268
3/15/07 at 9:45am
Watching Maryland on WJZ Baltimore. Have to assume this is a constant feed yet it doesn't look like upconverted or stretched SD.
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post #5 of 268
3/15/07 at 9:46am
How can you tell if you are a flex or constant station?

My local is still in SD. KBTX-DT in College Station, TX (cable)
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post #6 of 268
3/15/07 at 9:54am
Check the maps in the links in this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post10015577

Some of the Friday game maps are linked further down in that thread.
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post #7 of 268
3/15/07 at 9:55am
If anyone happens to grab screenshots from the games today, I would love a shot of the "HDTV by Harris" at the beginning of the games
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post #8 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by mlr_1977 View Post

WTOL-DT has Stanford-Louisville

WWJ-DT has Texas Tech-BC

WTOL-DT just flexed to Maryland-Davidson
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post #9 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by tonyd79 View Post

Watching Maryland on WJZ Baltimore. Have to assume this is a constant feed yet it doesn't look like upconverted or stretched SD.

Yeah, now I'm really confused. WBTV (Charlotte) is also supposed to be a "Constant" for this game, but there's no way this is an upconvert.

The good news, assuming they switched to flex, is it seems that the cutaways to different games for flex feeds are kept at a minimum. (Good news assuming the game you want to see is their primary game)
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post #10 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by meteor3 View Post

If anyone happens to grab screenshots from the games today, I would love a shot of the "HDTV by Harris" at the beginning of the games

I think it's at the end of the games. Not sure if it's at the beginning too. Only up for a second or so. At least that's how it was last year.
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post #11 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:08am
Thank god for MMOD, or I'd be stuck watching Stanford getting destroyed. After Stanford loses, we have no more constant games on KPIX.
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post #12 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by GregAnnapolis View Post

I think it's at the end of the games. Not sure if it's at the beginning too. Only up for a second or so. At least that's how it was last year.

HDTV by HARRIS lower third is shown at the beginning of each half. They may also by a credit to Harris in the closing credits.
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post #13 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:10am
(Cincinnati, OH Time Warner) Stanford/Louisville drops to SD when they go to constant feed. Dayton OTA is currently in flex mode and is showing Maryland/Davidson in HD.

edit- Just checked the maps in the link and Cincinnati should be in flex mode for games in this time slot.
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post #14 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:17am
In MD territory both DC and Baltimore are showing the MD game in full HD. Only switched toother games very briefly with 6 minutes left in first half.
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post #15 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:19am
Dayton (OTA) is now showing the Stanford/Louisville game in HD, while Cincinnati (Time Warner) is still SD.
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post #16 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:26am
Haven't seen a single game in HD yet. THis is WEAK.
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post #17 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:28am
Guess Ricky P. is enjoying his return to Rupp, when he doesn't have to play against the team he restored to greatness from its dark time in the late eighties. Is Stanford representative of Pac-10 softness, or are they just having a bad day? I'd suppose the latter, since I think UCLA and the Quack Attack are strong this season.
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post #18 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:58am
This is crap! Not only am I stuck watching a game in SD, it's a crappy game. The other two games look like they are good matches, but were stuck watching Louisville kill Stanford.

-WKRC (Cincinnati)
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post #19 of 268
3/15/07 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by meteor3 View Post

If anyone happens to grab screenshots from the games today, I would love a shot of the "HDTV by Harris" at the beginning of the games

If you really want one, I can grab one tonight for you w/ my OnAir GT on my PC. The thing works great!
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post #20 of 268
3/15/07 at 11:07am
Davidson vs. Maryland in HD on KCBS-HD in LA. All highlights from other games in HD. Only complaint is the graphics. Out of town scores on top and game score on bottom very distracting.
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post #21 of 268
3/15/07 at 11:29am
KGMB Honolulu had the Texas Tech/BC game and only had 2 cut-ins to Davidson/MD game.

DIE GAMETRAX DIE!!!
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post #22 of 268
3/15/07 at 11:39am
Wash St. / O Roberts in HD on KCBS-HD.
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post #23 of 268
3/15/07 at 12:02pm
Obvious problems with HD flex feed in Buffalo for the ODU/Butler game. I'm watching on WISC-DT in Madison. Anyone confirm in other parts of the country?
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post #24 of 268
3/15/07 at 12:03pm
belmont vs georgetown in sd. only game so far in sd.

wtvf nashville QAM tuner to receiver hd channels
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post #25 of 268
3/15/07 at 12:04pm
WLNS CBS in Lansing MI via Comcast went SD at about 2:55 watching Georgetown and Belmont, we switched to Butler and ODU at 3:01 and it stayed SD, then at 3:03 we got the CBS HDTV pillars.

is CBS having feed issues from Buffalo?
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post #26 of 268
3/15/07 at 12:06pm
Getting my first taste of upconverted SD on WISH-TV in Indy for the Butler-ODU game. It is worse than SD. This is criminal that CBS is doing this to the fans in the markets where the team are from.
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post #27 of 268
3/15/07 at 12:11pm
Here in Atlanta,on Comcast, the local CBS has 4 total channels. 1 SD channel. 3 channels on the HD side. They aren't attempting to show 3 hd games, they are "downrezzing" the HD games so they all look fairly good. They have shown up to 4 different games at times already today. Frankly, it's a better option than trying to run 1 HD game and 2 SD games at once. It was unwatchable at times last year. I enjoy the option of seeing all the games for this type of event.

They currently have a different game on the analog cbs than they do the primary HD channel.

WGNX CBS 46

http://www.cbs46.com/Global/story.asp?S=6199406
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post #28 of 268
3/15/07 at 12:11pm
I just came home from work so I missed the morning games. Here's what I'm seeing:

Georgetown/Belmont in HD on WCBS (New York) via D*
Texas A&M/Penn in HD on KHOU (Houston) OTA
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post #29 of 268
3/15/07 at 12:11pm
if the tennessee/lbsu game is in sd, i'll be pretty upset!
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post #30 of 268
3/15/07 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by Crakaveli View Post

if the tennessee/lbsu game is in sd, i'll be pretty upset!

If yer getting a constant feed of the game, it'll be in SD
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