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post #121 of 4566
I'm trying to decide where to make the holes in my wall to run wires for one of these sets. Can someone please describe the location of the rear input box on the 4661, 4665 and 5265? I'm sure you're wanting to spend as much time playing/watching the new tv but if you've got the time exact measurements would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and congrats on your new tvs
post #122 of 4566
so

great news from samsung

niceee
post #123 of 4566
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Originally Posted by sharpjunkie View Post

Ok. Finally figured out why dvi to hdmi didnt look right. Once I selected JUST SCAN, the pc at 1080p output through dvi to hdmi input 1 finally looks like 1:1 to me just like the vga input does so I got that fixed. Dont know if I like the VGA or the DVItoHDMI better. The vga is softer a little more fuzzy and the DVItoHDMI is super bright and sharper....

For the just scan feature for the xbox.... no. I believe that just scan only works on the HDMI inputs. I don't need it to do just scan on the components for xbox360. Doesn't look like there is overscan to me. I have been playing rainbow six online for the past couple of months and just played a game in 1080p and it looks just the same as before. A little more colorfull but I don't think I see overscan. And I had a sharp 1:1 before this set. Can I ask you what would be the importance of JUST SCAN while playing the 360 on components?

Sharpjunkie, thanks for the initial review. Could you please show a pic of the PC desktop using DVI>HDMI in input 1 with "Just Scan" enabled showing a closeup of the task bar (start menu)...this is a great way to check for overscan . Thanks.
post #124 of 4566
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Originally Posted by tazmizzionz View Post

Negative. Tried, and the JustScan option was greyed-out. I tried to access it on all the connections I have (VHF, Composite, Component) couldnt access it.

check to see what picture setting you were in (i could only apply justscan in the normal mode, not movie or dynamic)
post #125 of 4566
Thanks for the pics and info for the rest of us. You have put my personal fears to rest ( banding, clouding, contrast, 1:1). It seems from these pics that Samsung is about to hit not one, but two out of the HD ballpark.
post #126 of 4566
Anyone try the 360 via VGA to check to see a) if there is no overscan and/or see if it can be displayed 1:1 and b) if it works at all? Samsung and Microsoft usually work well together (unlike some other brands) but it would be nice to get confirmation.
post #127 of 4566
This might sound like a strange question, but is there anything on the back of the set to make the cords go behind the pedestal part of the stand so you can't see them?

Haven't seen one in person yet. Thanks!
post #128 of 4566
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by megashock5 View Post

This might sound like a strange question, but is there anything on the back of the set to make the cords go behind the pedestal part of the stand so you can't see them?

Haven't seen one in person yet. Thanks!

There is a plastic / rubber tie thingy that is supposed to keep the cords "hidden". I haven't tried it yet so, so YMMV.
post #129 of 4566
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Originally Posted by sharpjunkie View Post

Hey plastik? Is that windowsxp? If so, what are u using for your graphics user interface to make it look like a macOSx with all the controls on the top. I wouldnt mind having something like that as I hate windows and love my mac. Please do share. Not to get off subject thanks for the pics. I would post some but do not have a camera at the moment. You can PM me with the info if needed....

objectdock is the software. probably the best software ever created for windows since it eliminates the need to use the start menu. Keeps your desktop clutter free and all your programs easily accessable.
post #130 of 4566
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Originally Posted by TV Casualty View Post

Anyone try the 360 via VGA to check to see a) if there is no overscan and/or see if it can be displayed 1:1 and b) if it works at all? Samsung and Microsoft usually work well together (unlike some other brands) but it would be nice to get confirmation.

I couldn't get VGA mode to work on the xbox360 which was why there wasn't a picture shown in my mini review. The TV couldn't pickup the signal and gave me a "unsupported mode". The cable is Microsoft and definately works as I tried it on my 42" Olevia 542i.
post #131 of 4566
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I saw the new 5265F at Brandsmart (Atlanta) today. It's next to the new Samsung 5054 plasma. The picture looks like a plasma tv with excellent contrast ratio and a glaring screen. It's also smoother (1080p) and brighter than the 5054.

I am getting ready to return a flashlighting 5296 in disgust. It sounds like a 52" without the glossy finish would be awesome but I dont see a reference to a 5261F on Samsung's website. I wonder if they will release a 5261F?
post #132 of 4566
Initial Review:
I'm very happy with the 4661F as it's a significant step up from the older 4695. Initially I wasn't a big fan of the rounded bezel design but it grows on you. Definately no regrets on making the upgrade. So far I see no problems with banding, clouding, flash-lighting, or dead pixels. The colors looks rich and the improved contrast ratio gives everything more depth. QAM tuner and Just Scan are both present as well as a boat load of new menu options including incremental back light control. SD viewing is pretty subpar, fuzzy, grainy and full of artifacts, worse then my Olevia 542i but of course SD viewing isn't what I bought this TV for. Another cool feature I noticed was that when you hit the source button, it will only cycle through the sources that are currently in use so no more having to click through blank screens. Also the bottom hidden speakers aren't the greatest but they get the job done. How is sound suppose to travel across the room if the speakers are pointed downwards? So onward with the inputs. I've tested every connection available to me as you can see below. I initially had problems with the 4661f recognizing the VGA signal from the xbox360 but this is easily fixed by reseting the 360 to it's default resolution with component then reconnect the VGA and it will recognize the signal.


Xbox 360: How to reset the display settings back to default:

1. Remove any discs from the disc tray.
2. Turn the console off.
3. Turn the console on.
4. As the console starts, press and hold the Y button, and then pull the right trigger at the same time.
5. The Xbox Dashboard resets the display settings to the default settings, and then automatically restarts the console


3 week review:
I've had the 4661f for about 3 weeks now and used it daily for 7-8 hours, looking for any issues that may warrant a return to CC before the 30 days. So far the only real issue I've encountered is the hand shaking between the tv and the PS3 during games, not during Blu Ray playback. I'm using cheap monoprice HDMI 1.2 cables so that may be it. Viewing HD content through cable/QAM is crystal clear, xbox360 through component has some overscan but nothing major but I'm using VGA 1080p so everything is ok. However, I didn't notice any overscan with the Wii through component. PS3 gaming loses signal about every 25 minutes with the occasional green screen but Blu Ray playback has been razor sharp and flawless. Blacks are blacks with good detail and no crush. Colors are good with no push that I can see and there are no flash lighting, mura effect or dead pixels. Has anyone else been able to verify that the cables are a cause for HDMI/signal loss? I really don't want to return this TV.

Front

Back

Side

Whats in the box


Lost OTA HD 720p Coaxial


Lost SD 480i Coaxial


Casino Royale Blu Ray 1080p HDMI



Motorstorm PS3 720p HDMI
post #133 of 4566
Tekken 5 PS3 1080p


Gears of Wars Xbox360 1080p Component


Project Gotham Racing 3 Xbox360 1920x1080 VGA


PC Windows XP ATI All in Wonder x1900 1920x1080 VGA
post #134 of 4566
plastikpyro,

Can you please show a pic of the PC desktop using DVI>HDMI in input 1 with "Just Scan" enabled showing a closeup of the task bar (start menu)...this is a great way to check for overscan . Thanks.
post #135 of 4566
sorry I don't have a set of DVI>HDMI cables at the moment so the PC is currently connected through VGA as shown in the last picture.
post #136 of 4566
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Originally Posted by plastikpyro View Post

sorry I don't have a set of DVI cables at the moment so the PC is currently connected through VGA as shown in the last picture.

OK, looks pretty damn good with VGA though I only have DVI so I need to verify this from somone. Thanks.
post #137 of 4566
I saw the 61 at CC last night and could compair it to a sony xbr and the 4696.. It was for sure a better picture. I would say maybe 40% better?? At CC they had the 61f and BB has the 66, the 66 was cheaper than the 61. Weird.. Not sure which one to get May just wait for the 65
post #138 of 4566
Thanks for all the pics. Amazing.
post #139 of 4566
I really want to know if there will be a 52" 61 series panel. I'll buy that definetely.
post #140 of 4566
So here's the problems I'm hearing so far.

It would be great to have some more owners verify these.

1. Possible intermittent PS3 handshaking issue over HDMI while playing games.
edit: this is apparently fixed by disabling digital sound through HDMI

2. No Justscan support for 1080p over component. It would be great if someone could try out GRAW on the Xbox 360 to see if it is overscanning on the HUD or not.
edit: this is confirmed. no justscan on component inputs

3. No Xbox 360 1080p support over VGA.
edit: this has been solved, it was originally a set up problem. 1080p works perfectly over VGA

Individually, these aren't deal breakers for me... but all together they might be.
post #141 of 4566
All I have is a camera phone. I can assure you that dvi-hdmi HAS NO OVERSCAN. I have ghost recon 2 and rainbowsix for the 360 connected to input 1 components with 1080p with slight OVERSCAN.

The majority of the inputs are in the bottom right on the back of the tv if you plan on mounting it. Then there are a few more on the left side.

Hey no one has mentioned that the volume, and off and on, and input selector on the actual tv is hiddin on the bottom ride side and it is touch sensative like the ps3 on off buttons. This tv is total luxary in my opinion and would look amazing on a wall...
post #142 of 4566
So I take it that these new Sammy LCD's suck at SD but HD is to die for. Does that summarize it well you think? Also, sharpjunkie should change his/her name on this forum to "Sammybitch" or "Samsungwhore" now that he's left Japan far behind and moved over to Korea.
post #143 of 4566
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Originally Posted by isucamper View Post

1. Possible intermittent PS3 handshaking issue over HDMI while playing games.

This is a problem with the PS3 itself. Anyhow, the handshaking issue appears to be
due to the PS3 sending invalid audio signals via the HDMI cable which mixes the TV
up and impedes the handshaking. Some TV's have it worse than others. The Sharp
d92 that I had, for example, would give messages of an invalid signal, while the
d43U just goes crazy.

The fix around it is to disable digital audio on the PS3. Go to the audio menu and
disable 5.1 and DTS. Just set it to 2-channel PCM (think that's what its called) and
it'll work. We gotta wait until Sony finds a way to fix this.
post #144 of 4566
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Originally Posted by sharpjunkie View Post

have ghost recon 2 and rainbowsix for the 360 connected to input 1 components with 1080p with NO OVERSCAN.

I hate to nitpick... but UBISoft fixed the HUD overscan issue for GRAW 2. You can really only see overscan happening in GRAW 1. I don't suppose you could grab the demo off of Xbox live and check it out? You should see a blue line boarder to all the way around the screen. If you don't, it is overscanning.

I had a thought on the whole Xbox 360 1080p VGA issue. My brother has a Sony 2500 and I took my Xbox 360 over to his place to try it out. I got a VGA cable and it worked just fine at 1080p. A few weeks later, Best Buy had an open box Westy 47 I wanted to try out so I took my Xbox in, and for some reason, I couldn't get 1080p to work over VGA despite the fact that everybody on the Westy 47 thread insists that it should work. It said "Unsupported Signal" or something like that.

Now here is what I'm thinking. Maybe when you first select 1080p in the setup menu, the Xbox does some kind of auto detect with the monitor and then saves that configuration. Perhaps since I had previously had it set up on my bother's Sony (and not reset it), it would (in its current configuration) not work with the Westy. I understand that the guy who tryed it on this new Sammy had previously used it on an Olevia, so he might be seeing the same issue.

One thing to do to try and fix this is to reset the resulotion by holding Y and the right trigger at bootup, and THEN going and switching to 1080p.

Just a thought, sorry if no one is interested in this.
post #145 of 4566
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

So I take it that these new Sammy LCD's suck at SD but HD is to die for. Does that summarize it well you think? Also, sharpjunkie should change his/her name on this forum to "Sammybitch" or "Samsungwhore" now that he's left Japan far behind and moved over to Korea.

I wouldnt really say suck... its about the same as the sharp 46d62 I returned. No real noticable difference.
post #146 of 4566
just picked my 4661 from circuit city.... now i can't wait till i'm done with work!!!
post #147 of 4566
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Originally Posted by ashram View Post

just picked my 4661 from circuit city.... now i can't wait till i'm done with work!!!

Nice! So where are you parked....
post #148 of 4566
i haven't had any handshsking issues between the 4661F and the PS3. I played tekken 5/1080p, ridge racer/1080p, and watched casino royale/1080p without problems. i have seen this happen on my olevia where the screen turns white before switching resolutions then switches back. nothing permanent though.

*I think this only happens if the resolution in your crossbar menu interface doesn't match the resolution of the game so it has to switch before booting up the game. For example. My crossbar menu interface is set at 1080p and when I boot up a blu-ray movie or game that supports 1080p native theres no switching of resolution.
post #149 of 4566
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Originally Posted by isucamper View Post

I hate to nitpick... but UBISoft fixed the HUD overscan issue for GRAW 2. You can really only see overscan happening in GRAW 1. I don't suppose you could grab the demo off of Xbox live and check it out? You should see a blue line boarder to all the way around the screen. If you don't, it is overscanning.

yes.. could you please try this if you have the time? We'd greatly appreciate it. the overscan on my Sony tube is killing me.

...and thanks for all of the impressions and pictures guys!!
post #150 of 4566
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Originally Posted by Nambit View Post

This is a problem with the PS3 itself. Anyhow, the handshaking issue appears to be
due to the PS3 sending invalid audio signals via the HDMI cable which mixes the TV
up and impedes the handshaking. Some TV's have it worse than others. The Sharp
d92 that I had, for example, would give messages of an invalid signal, while the
d43U just goes crazy.

The fix around it is to disable digital audio on the PS3. Go to the audio menu and
disable 5.1 and DTS. Just set it to 2-channel PCM (think that's what its called) and
it'll work. We gotta wait until Sony finds a way to fix this.


cant we just disable audio from the hdmi and output it through the fiber optic digital out
will this fix the problem aswell?
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