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post #211 of 4566
How about the PQ at night or in the dark. How are the blacks? What's this about
overscan, by the way? The PC desktop doesn't look like overscan, in some of the
shots I saw. Are you saying the overscan is via component? If so, that's no big
deal for me, as I hardly will be using that anyhow (DVI from laptop goes to HDMI,
and PS3 is hdmi anyhow). Perhaps I misunderstood though. Incidentally, I thought
you guys knew to use the VGA port for the 360.

Oh well, thanks for all the feedback (even though no one seems to be answering
my questions).
post #212 of 4566
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Originally Posted by Nambit View Post

How about the PQ at night or in the dark. How are the blacks? What's this about
overscan, by the way? The PC desktop doesn't look like overscan, in some of the
shots I saw. Are you saying the overscan is via component? If so, that's no big
deal for me, as I hardly will be using that anyhow (DVI from laptop goes to HDMI,
and PS3 is hdmi anyhow). Perhaps I misunderstood though. Incidentally, I thought
you guys knew to use the VGA port for the 360.

Oh well, thanks for all the feedback (even though no one seems to be answering
my questions).

As for PQ at night or dark...all my pictures cept for like 3 were taken in the dark or night. The PQ is great in HD but SD is horrible. Im still to determine if its the set thats producing the horrible SD or my cable box. The blacks are amazing during the day and the night...the wait for my HDMI cables to come is killing me!! Cant wait to use the HDMI Black option.

Well I havn't noticed Overscan myself and havnt tried HDMI yet to try Justscan. Justscan on the 66 does not work in any mode other than HDMI. I hooked up a 360 via component and didnt notice overscan either..Ill post some pics in a bit, you guys know more about this than me, maybe see something I dont.
post #213 of 4566
If u guys are really serious about this over scanning on the component 1080p xbox360
the Xbox "Elite" is coming out shortly with hdmi
Sell you're current 360s and take say an 50-100$ loss and add an extra 50-80 for the new elite with hdmi+120 gb- in black

All that just for 2% of cropping

(I plan to do this anyways cuz I love my Hd-dvd movies even tho Blu is winning I have both and love em both soo much)
post #214 of 4566
Seriously, is the 66 model only 40 inch? No 52? Damn, why the confusion?!?
Hmm, I'm sure the SD sucking is either because you haven't tweaked your settings
for SD yet (probably have it too sharp... turn down that damned artifacting sharpness!)
or, as you said, your feed. GRR!!! I don't think this TV is available in Canada yet
anyhow (not on the Samsung.ca site).

Glad to see you're happy with it though. It should really kick with that HDMI cable.
post #215 of 4566
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Originally Posted by savage1005 View Post

using a screentest photo displayed from my pc through the xbox360 for component, there is around what appears to be a 2% overscan. this is kind of a bummer but not that noticable. i did the graw1 border test and it definitely did not display the full hud lines. just scan can not be enabled for component either.

What graphics card do you have?
post #216 of 4566
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Originally Posted by savage1005 View Post

"With the 65f you get side mounted speakers with black matte finish."

nope, 65f's are glossy black like the rest of them.

I guess they are all glossy. The pics of the 65f's LOOKED flat black. Guess the only difference then between the 65f and the 66f are the speaker location. I like them hidden on the bottom...

Anyone have trouble connecting thier pc to this set via DVI to HDMI?

Anyone using xbox360 to vga? If so how is the pic? Overscan?
post #217 of 4566
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Originally Posted by Nambit View Post

Seriously, is the 66 model only 40 inch? No 52? Damn, why the confusion?!?
Hmm, I'm sure the SD sucking is either because you haven't tweaked your settings
for SD yet (probably have it too sharp... turn down that damned artifacting sharpness!)
or, as you said, your feed. GRR!!! I don't think this TV is available in Canada yet
anyhow (not on the Samsung.ca site).

Glad to see you're happy with it though. It should really kick with that HDMI cable.

Could you assist in these tweaks for SD? I didnt even know I could tweak them or anything about artifacting sharpness!

As of right now I still watch A LOT of SD. I have the full package with my cable company and I get almost 2k channels and only 20 or so are in HD. I can live without the majority of the SD channels but the InDemand channels are all SD and those are some great channels I dont want to miss out on.
post #218 of 4566
I had seen the Samung 4661 a coupe of days ago and tried adjusting the SD through the menu but I could not get SD to display anything that I would call "convenient" for watching. If someone can pull a rabbit out of the hat and get this set to display a close to halfway respectable picture then please let me know your setting and tv configuration. Thanks.
post #219 of 4566
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Originally Posted by Nambit View Post

Incidentally, I thought you guys knew to use the VGA port for the 360.

One poster mentioned that he could not get 1080p to work over VGA with his Xbox 360. He didn't mention if he tried other resolutions or not. Anyone else able to check this? It would also be good to know if you have control of the picture settings over VGA.
post #220 of 4566
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Originally Posted by mark_1080p View Post

Yes, the bright columns on the outer edges are evident in the dark grey (first) pic, but they do seem rather gradual, and you said dark scenes are fine, so that's good enough for me.

Some of that could be a "limb effect". If you are fairly close to the TV while photographing, and centered, the outer edges will be brighter since you are viewing those areas off axis. Now you might expect a circular pattern, but I did take a pic of my Sharp and I could see the same effect. Moving the camera much farther away and zooming will reduce it, if that is what it is.

My 32" Sharp is nearly perfectly uniform, viewed in person from a distance.
My LC-32d7U from about 6 feet:

That is exactly what it is! Spot on! If I position myself right in front of one of the brighter spots (one of the sides) it no longer looks brighter. It has definitely something to do with off axis viewing.

I am a little concerned about that darn xxYCC, does anyone have more info about it? Could another owner enable it and post a pic or something, as I posped earlier the screen goes purple if that thing is on.
post #221 of 4566
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Originally Posted by isucamper View Post

One poster mentioned that he could not get 1080p to work over VGA with his Xbox 360. He didn't mention if he tried other resolutions or not. Anyone else able to check this? It would also be good to know if you have control of the picture settings over VGA.

i can check tomorrow.... apparantly there is a way to reset video settings on the 360 when a setting isn't working..... if it still doesn't work, then i hope it's a fix microsoft can fix via firmware.

also... i'm dying to test out my dreamcast via vga!
post #222 of 4566
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by guima View Post

I am a little concerned about that darn xxYCC, does anyone have more info about it? Could another owner enable it and post a pic or something, as I posped earlier the screen goes purple if that thing is on.

Mine goes purple as well with xxYCC turned on. So, it's not just you
post #223 of 4566
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lyle View Post

Mine goes purple as well with xxYCC turned on. So, it's not just you

Nothing to be concerned about because the source of the feed is not xxYCC to begin with.
post #224 of 4566
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Originally Posted by Nambit View Post

It's because the PS3 actually looks a WHOLE LOT BETTER on the HDMI than the
component cable. I've tried both, and, especially for 1080P, the difference is quite
huge. Also, you can't watch Blu-Ray movies in Hi-def on the component cables,
so it's kinda important for Sony to get their act together and fix the damned HDMI output.

You can watch bd movies with components in hd. I just watched Casino Royale and Crank in hd (1080i as thats my crt's hd standard) and they both looked amazing. I haven't tried hdmi yet but if it looks better, I'll have to give it a shot.
post #225 of 4566
Does anyone have a calibration disk that's able to test out the de-interlace and 3:2 pulldown on the new models?

I'm really interested in this because the 4x95 series failed this test performed at hdguru:
hdguru (dot) com/?p=17
post #226 of 4566
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Originally Posted by isucamper View Post

One poster mentioned that he could not get 1080p to work over VGA with his Xbox 360. He didn't mention if he tried other resolutions or not. Anyone else able to check this? It would also be good to know if you have control of the picture settings over VGA.

You can't see the screen to try the other resolutions because the TV deosn't support the VGA signal coming from the 360. I tried for an hour yesterday with no luck. Also while playing Tekken 5 PS3 for about 2 hours last night the TV mysteriously blank out and stopped recieving the HDMI signal from the PS3 but came back after I turned it off and on. strange.. This is very similar to what Spicaly is experiencing with his set.
post #227 of 4566
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Originally Posted by plastikpyro View Post

You can't see the screen to try the other resolutions because the TV deosn't support the VGA signal coming from the 360. I tried for an hour yesterday with no luck. Also while playing Tekken 5 PS3 for about 2 hours last night the TV mysteriously blank out and stopped recieving the HDMI signal from the PS3 but came back after I turned it off and on. strange.. This is very similar to what Spicaly is experiencing with his set.

ahh crap... I tried the no sound fix that was mentioned and that kinda worked, I only played one game of madden with no black outs, but then played 2 more with the sound on with no black outs either... Im thinking I'll try to pick up a cheap HTIB with optical in and run the ps3 without HDMI audio output for a week and see how it does. I'm really hoping its not an issue with the TV
post #228 of 4566
Here's a dumb ? so I want to buy like right now after I get out of work today a 4066fa or 4061fa.

BB has the 4066f
CC has the 4061f

besides the contrast difference. and the speakers.
can't make up my mindddddddddddddd.

those the contrast issue really make a big difference in this case.

I like the way the 61f looks but not if the pic quality is better on the 66f.
post #229 of 4566
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Originally Posted by ashram View Post

i can check tomorrow.... apparantly there is a way to reset video settings on the 360 when a setting isn't working..... if it still doesn't work, then i hope it's a fix microsoft can fix via firmware.

also... i'm dying to test out my dreamcast via vga!

Dreamcast baby! Oh Yeah! I still have mine as it was by far the coolest system of the last generation. If it looks good with vga, I'll have to hunt one of those cables down when I pick up the 4665f (hurry up Canada).
post #230 of 4566
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Originally Posted by ashram View Post

i can check tomorrow.... apparantly there is a way to reset video settings on the 360 when a setting isn't working..... if it still doesn't work, then i hope it's a fix microsoft can fix via firmware.

also... i'm dying to test out my dreamcast via vga!


direct from microsoft.


Xbox 360: How to reset the display settings to the default settings

SUMMARY
This article describes to how to reset the display settings of the Xbox 360 console to the default settings.
MORE INFORMATION
To reset the display settings of the Xbox 360 console to the default settings, follow these steps:1. Remove any discs from the disc tray.
2. Turn the console off.
3. Turn the console on.

Note If you are using an Xbox 360 Wireless Controller, turn the console on by using the Xbox Guide button on the controller. Make sure that you use the player 1 controller when you do this. The player 1 controller will have the upper-left quadrant light illuminated.
4. As the console starts, press and hold the Y button, and then pull the right trigger at the same time.
5. The Xbox Dashboard resets the display settings to the default settings, and then automatically restarts the console
post #231 of 4566
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Originally Posted by CUBANPETE View Post

Here's a dumb ? so I want to buy like right now after I get out of work today a 4066fa or 4061fa.

BA has the 4066fa
CC has the 4061fa

besides the contrast difference. and the speakers.
can't make up my mindddddddddddddd.

those the contrast issue really make a big difference in this case.

I like the way the 61f looks but not if the pic quality is better on the 66f.

This is my dilemma also. My main concern with the 66F/65F is the "Super Clear" screen that covers the panel. Don't care too much for the speakers since I already have external speakers and a reciever setup

I'm not sure if the added glare is worth the apparent better picture quality? Cost is very similar also, so perhaps it's just a mater of preference?
post #232 of 4566
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Originally Posted by spicaly View Post

ahh crap... I tried the no sound fix that was mentioned and that kinda worked, I only played one game of madden with no black outs, but then played 2 more with the sound on with no black outs either... Im thinking I'll try to pick up a cheap HTIB with optical in and run the ps3 without HDMI audio output for a week and see how it does. I'm really hoping its not an issue with the TV

Apparently the problem we are experiencing is called "blinking" which is common among Sony and Westinghouse sets that can only be fixed by upgrading the TV's firmware. SH!T

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4212508.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4212161.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4212233.html
post #233 of 4566
yeah nice dilemma to have.

In my area there isn't that much of a diffrence in $$$$.

just who do you realy like to buy from BB or CC.

All the pic I've seen here from the 66/65f or the 61f have been great.

Thanks for all the guy's that have posted pic for us to check out.
post #234 of 4566
Do the new Samsungs handle 1080P24?
post #235 of 4566
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Originally Posted by plastikpyro View Post

Apparently the problem we are experiencing is called "blinking" which is common among Sony and Westinghouse sets that can only be fixed by upgrading the TV's firmware. SH!T

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4212508.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4212161.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4212233.html

nambit said his temp fix was to run the audio from the ps3 through a different method not HDMI.... do you have a way to try that? I was going to buy a HTIB with optical in and try that.... but if you already have a receiver maybe you could try that also
post #236 of 4566
From what I've read I don't think it's audio related:

"Popular Mechanics discovered the problem when we first tested the PS3 and noticed that occasionally the image on the screen of our Westinghouse 1080p test set would blink intermittently and play no sound. After a lengthy investigation last week, we learned that the problem occurred because, for reasons now unknown, the devices were unable to exchange their HDCP (High Bandwidth Digital Content Protection) key, an encryption code which prevents unauthorized recording of an HDTV signal. "
post #237 of 4566
There's been quite a bit of discussion about the set's SD quality, but all of it based on just a couple of anecdotal, general references. Would anyone (spicaly, plastikpyro, Brian Lyle) be so kind as to address their experience with SD quality so far -- including, if possible, as compared to other LCD or Plasma displays? I'm sure many of us would appreciate it. Thanks!
post #238 of 4566
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Originally Posted by slick316 View Post

I was going to purchase a Pioneer plasma, but went for the LCD after doing some research and in store demo's.

I bought the T4661FX (Don't know what the X is for, just assuming its the same as the T4661F) from Vanns.com. It has shipped and should be here today (23rd).

I don't know how many owners there already are, but I got my camera ready to go to take pics if needed.

And if anyone is interested in what I am connecting it:
HTPC via VGA (going to either buy a video card that has HDMI out, or a DVI to HDMI cable)
X360 via Component
PS3 via HDMI
Toshiba HD-A2 via HDMI
Wii via Component
DLO iPod Dock via S-Video
OTA HD via Antenna (FOX, NBC, CBS, WB, thats all I get)
Standard cable (getting a digital box or Dish soon)

I am kind of curious about how the 480p Wii will look on these new Samsungs.
Could you post a few pictures of the Wii running on your new 61?
post #239 of 4566
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Originally Posted by jmpeterson70 View Post

There's been quite a bit of discussion about the set's SD quality, but all of it based on just a couple of anecdotal, general references. Would anyone (spicaly, plastikpyro, Brian Lyle) be so kind as to address their experience with SD quality so far -- including, if possible, as compared to other LCD or Plasma displays? I'm sure many of us would appreciate it. Thanks!

I was watching some SD via component last night/// mun2/mtv3res

both looked really good for SD, I was actually pleased and somewhat suprised

I've seen both poor looking SD, and really good (for SD) on the set. goes back to if you feed it crap thats what it'll display.

I've only had a sharp 46d62u to compare to, but I would say its the same if not better.
post #240 of 4566
On a scale of 1-10 for SD content, "10" (best) CRT, "5" (average) PC TV tuner card and "1" (ass) black & white TV with rabbit ears and foil, I would place the Samsung at "6". Not enough digital noise reduction could make it look good.

*make it 6.5 if you're watching in 4:3
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