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post #61 of 4566
in that article, i do find it interesting that they say LEDs won't be ready for "mainstream" flat TVs for a few years... i wonder what this means for the price of the 81 series when it comes out.

(sorry maybe this is off topic given that this is an owner's thread for the 61 and 65 series... i'll say no more!)

more on topic, to those who own them or have seen them, how are these 61's and 65's comparing to other LCDs out now?
post #62 of 4566
Hey Guys- I could not resist posting anymore... i was at my local BB here in SF and they do indeed have the 66f or rather ONE in stock.. See, the problem is i just bought the 4096 last week. i did a price match with CC when they were having a sale and got it for sixteenish... I have no clouding and eveverything looks good on it-


Can't decide if I should return it and upgrade Use this mainly for a ps3 and was looking at the 65f.
post #63 of 4566
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Originally Posted by SaltyReef View Post

Hey Guys- I could not resist posting anymore... i was at my local BB here in SF and they do indeed have the 66f or rather ONE in stock.. See, the problem is i just bought the 4096 last week. i did a price match with CC when they were having a sale and got it for sixteenish... I have no clouding and eveverything looks good on it-


Can't decide if I should return it and upgrade Use this mainly for a ps3 and was looking at the 65f.

I'd say if you are happy with what you have and there are no compelling reasons to buy the 65f, just enjoy what you have.
post #64 of 4566
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Originally Posted by spicaly View Post

I will try that tonight. I have Circuit city coming saturday to swap the set

Also, if I'm not mistaken, most games are 720P which prevents just-scan (1:1). So I was wondering if that is causing some problem for the TV, since you said blue-ray (1080P) works fine. Try disabling just-scan before the gaming session... just out of curiosity cause the TV should handle that anyway.
post #65 of 4566
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Originally Posted by guima View Post

Also, if I'm not mistaken, most games are 720P which prevents just-scan (1:1). So I was wondering if that is causing some problem for the TV, since you said blue-ray (1080P) works fine. Try disabling just-scan before the gaming session... just out of curiosity cause the TV should handle that anyway.

I'll try that.... its happend so far in madden, tekken, and some new golf game i just dl'd from the HK store.
post #66 of 4566
D9- Yeah I am thinking you are right. At least if I upgrade 1 year from now i will not be mad about the cost of my set now. Since HDMI 1.3 does not do much now whats the point? The guy at Bb told me the price of the 66f so pm me if you want to know. He said they will be on display in 4 days. (in SF)
post #67 of 4566
Has anyone tried to calibrate their sets yet? How well do the calibrate? Do they push any particular color?
post #68 of 4566
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mike123abc View Post

Has anyone tried to calibrate their sets yet? How well do the calibrate? Do they push any particular color?

I plan on starting tonight when it gets a little darker. I'll post my settings.
post #69 of 4566
I ordered the 4661 yesterday...should be here next week! I can't wait! Please continue to post feedback
post #70 of 4566
one quick question before i pull the trigger on a new set, get the 4661 or the 4665? Is the $400 price difference worth it?
post #71 of 4566
I stopped into a local Circuit City today looking for status on the LN-T5265F. They had no 65F in the store but the 4665F was in their computer (no 5265F though). I'll check back in a few weeks. This was in the Sacramento, CA area.
post #72 of 4566
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Originally Posted by zoman504 View Post

one quick question before i pull the trigger on a new set, get the 4661 or the 4665? Is the $400 price difference worth it?

from what i can tell, these are the differences:
4661 - 10k contrast ratio, speakers at bottom, matte screen finish (less glare), weighs 76.1 lbs

4665 - 15k contrast ration, speakers at the sides, glossy screen finish (more glare, better contrast?), weighs 61.7 lbs

hopes that helps make your decision!
post #73 of 4566
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Originally Posted by icdedppl View Post

from what i can tell, these are the differences:
4661 - 10k contrast ratio, speakers at bottom, matte screen finish (less glare), weighs 76.1 lbs

4665 - 15k contrast ration, speakers at the sides, glossy screen finish (more glare, better contrast?), weighs 61.7 lbs

hopes that helps make your decision!

- thanks, i actually wasnt aware of the weight differences. I think i am gonna go with the 61. From what i've seen it's pretty much a win-win situation. Right now i'm rockin an Olevia 527 i got around xmas for about 599, it actually looks pretty good, esp for the price. If anyone else has any insight regarding the 61 vs 65 debate, please post. I heard the speakers on the 61 were awful, is this true? I have a surround set, but i dont always use it.
post #74 of 4566
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Originally Posted by zoman504 View Post

- thanks, i actually wasnt aware of the weight differences. I think i am gonna go with the 61. From what i've seen it's pretty much a win-win situation. Right now i'm rockin an Olevia 527 i got around xmas for about 599, it actually looks pretty good, esp for the price. If anyone else has any insight regarding the 61 vs 65 debate, please post. I heard the speakers on the 61 were awful, is this true? I have a surround set, but i dont always use it.

Yes, the speakers on the 61 (as well as any of the Samsung models that have the "hidden bottom speakers") are ******; the audio is tinny and muffled. This is why I'm waiting for the 4043 model to released, it is a lower end model but has speakers on the side; if the PQ is comparable to the 61s, then I'm getting the 43. The old 41 model had speakers on the side, but the casing was ******, so at certain sound frequencies, the casing would rattle which was annoying.

Why Samsung continues to have hidden bottom speakers boggles my mind...not everyone has the space for a home theater system. You'd think Samsung would use common sense: why the hell would speakers be aimed DOWNWARD n the first place?
post #75 of 4566
Thread Starter 
FWIW, I find the speakers on the 4661 to be about the same level as the speakers on my 46V25L1 Sony. Those speakers were on the front and facing directly at the viewer.

I had a chance to check for banding, clouding, etc. on the 4661 tonight and mine is flawless.
post #76 of 4566
ok, thanks guys...well i just ordered the 4661f from vanns, i'm calling it an early graduation present to myself lol. I saw the 4061 at CC and it looked great, even though they only had it hooked upto an upconverting dvd player. I have TWC HD cable and a new ps3, and i cant wait to play college hoops 2k7 and watch the rest of the tourney!
post #77 of 4566
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Originally Posted by andysc View Post

Yes, the speakers on the 61 (as well as any of the Samsung models that have the "hidden bottom speakers") are ******; the audio is tinny and muffled. This is why I'm waiting for the 4043 model to released, it is a lower end model but has speakers on the side; if the PQ is comparable to the 61s, then I'm getting the 43. The old 41 model had speakers on the side, but the casing was ******, so at certain sound frequencies, the casing would rattle which was annoying.

Why Samsung continues to have hidden bottom speakers boggles my mind...not everyone has the space for a home theater system. You'd think Samsung would use common sense: why the hell would speakers be aimed DOWNWARD n the first place?

Or you can get the 65 which has speakers on the side - don't have to drop to the lower model (unless the wallet doesn't allow!). I need to double-check but the 66 series might also have front facing bottom speakers.

KO
post #78 of 4566
To the owners of the new T40XX, T46XX, T52XX... how glossy is the screen?

I'm little concenr about the ultra clear/reflective screen.

Does it reflect a lof of light? For example try watching at night, and turn a lamp on behind you to see if you can see the reflection on the screen?
post #79 of 4566
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Originally Posted by D92Mike View Post

Also, not to sound negative but have you checked for clouding or other QC anomalies? Some of the previous generation Samsungs had clouding issues. Thanks.

I haven't noticed any clouding or other anomalies that have to do the with the TV itself BUT to tell the truth I don't know exactly how to check for Clouding. I know about banding from a friends AQUOS but nothing really about Clouding since the only XBR3 I know has none. If anyone would like to PM on how to check for clouding and other anomalies please let me know.

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Originally Posted by komari View Post

Could you comment on the quality of SD content - had some other reviews on another thread say that it can be awful on the 61s and 65s. Not that these have a different processor, i think it might depend on the feed.

I can do better than comment, I'll post some pictures in about an hour of both SD and HD and Split Screen comparisons of both. I'll even throw in some DNIE demo pictures ^^b

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Originally Posted by mark_1080p View Post

If you are aware of the clouding/flashlighting issue, many of us are awaiting word on this. Has the Mura problem been solved? Blank input, all lights off (might have to wait till dark), then look at the screen with the backlight turned up. You could take a pic, overexpose it until the screen lights up in the pic. Do you see blotches, and put on a dark content movie, same question?

I haven't noticed such things and I was even using "Dynamic Mode" which sets the backlight to the max level of 10. I'll post pictures of the set in the 3 different pre-made modes the TV comes in.

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Originally Posted by drew138 View Post

Has anyone tried the Wiselink- USB picture /mp3 player feature. Supposedly if you load a USB drive with MP3 and JPEG the set will display these. Curious about the feature. Could be nice to create a quick slide show?

I just bought a 4gb USB drive for this exact purpose so I'll make a slide show of the pictures I will be posting above.

Off to dinner but I will be back in 1-2 hours chock full of new pictures.
post #80 of 4566
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Originally Posted by komari View Post

Or you can get the 65 which has speakers on the side - don't have to drop to the lower model (unless the wallet doesn't allow!). I need to double-check but the 66 series might also have front facing bottom speakers.

KO

The 66 has the side mounted hidden speakers as well. Only the 61f has the bottom mounted speakers
post #81 of 4566
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Originally Posted by sharpjunkie View Post

The 66 has the side mounted hidden speakers as well. Only the 61f has the bottom mounted speakers

I looked at the 66 description also...what exactly are "side mounted hidden speakers"? Are they speakers that face sideways or regular speakers that face the viewer?
post #82 of 4566
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Originally Posted by komari View Post

Or you can get the 65 which has speakers on the side - don't have to drop to the lower model (unless the wallet doesn't allow!). I need to double-check but the 66 series might also have front facing bottom speakers.

KO

I decided not to get the 65 because it has the glossy screen, which would be detrimental in my apt with a lot of sunlight. That's why I wished the 61s had regular side mounted speakers facing the viewer like the 43s do. Just have to see how low end of a model the 43 really is when it's released.
post #83 of 4566
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Originally Posted by mark_1080p View Post

If you are aware of the clouding/flashlighting issue, many of us are awaiting word on this. Has the Mura problem been solved? Blank input, all lights off (might have to wait till dark), then look at the screen with the backlight turned up. You could take a pic, overexpose it until the screen lights up in the pic. Do you see blotches, and put on a dark content movie, same question?

Nice design, there should be a 4666 and 5266.

I spent a fair amount of time watching a space movie on a 4061 in a store. Several times the screen went to total black. When it did, I saw no clouding and the blackness was completely uniform.
post #84 of 4566
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Originally Posted by icdedppl View Post

from what i can tell, these are the differences:
4661 - 10k contrast ratio, speakers at bottom, matte screen finish (less glare), weighs 76.1 lbs

4665 - 15k contrast ration, speakers at the sides, glossy screen finish (more glare, better contrast?), weighs 61.7 lbs

hopes that helps make your decision!

Maybe the op should take note and edit this info in the first post as well as linking the model to their official product page. This way, there won't be a hundred question later about what's the difference in the model as it will be reference already.
post #85 of 4566
Here's a link to the Phillips getting out of the flourescent backlighting article:

http://news.com.com/Philips%2Bdrops%...3-6166351.html
post #86 of 4566
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...ures/462998650

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNT406...4534677&sr=8-5

Is it just me or is Vanns giving a $300 discount for dealing on amazon?
post #87 of 4566
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Originally Posted by Beefchopper View Post

I spent a fair amount of time watching a space movie on a 4061 in a store. Several times the screen went to total black. When it did, I saw no clouding and the blackness was completely uniform.

Thanks, they are difficult to see in a store, but at home, in a very dark room, no lights, very easy to see if present.
post #88 of 4566
The disturbing thing about glossy panels is that even in the dark with the lights out, you can still see your reflection on the glass panel whenever there's a dark scene with a bright light (ie. commercials, or during normal viewing).

This is seriously making me reconsider the 65 series from Samsung.
post #89 of 4566
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Originally Posted by Bryan Lyle View Post

I had a chance to check for banding, clouding, etc. on the 4661 tonight and mine is flawless.

You sound as if you have seen clouding/flashlighting and know what to look for. So this panel is clear, in a very dark room with a blank input? Any chance of posting a pic overexposure in a dark room, blank screen? Thanks, and congrats!!!!!!!!
post #90 of 4566
Lets start with some pics focusing on the "black" connected thru component HD. The first pic shows just a black screen I caught while watching a HD show. The next 3 show the different display settings that come factory set. Dynamic (Max Black Light and Contrast), Standard, and Movie (Lowest Blacklight and Contrast).















Its a little hard to tell because my camera skills are not that good but maybe it will help someone see "clouds".

The next two are of the Geico Gecko on Full Screen HD then Split Screen. I left the flash in on the first because it was off to the side and it was the best of the pictures I took of that batch. In the split screen you can see the HD channel via component and HD via regular cable.





I have more pictures to post but don't want to clutter one post so I will start a new one after this. All the pictures from now on will be Split Screen starting from HD channels to regular SD channels.
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