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Panamorph U85 w/ X1 ?????

post #1 of 11
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I happen to notice there is a powerbuy going on for the Panamorph U85 (wonder when it's over). I just want to know will will work with an Infocus X1. If it works I will placing an order.
post #2 of 11
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Anybody have an answer??

I forgot to add that I am using an HTPC for my scaling.
post #3 of 11
Did you try the Panamorph site? and the compatibility list?

http://panamorph.com/Compatibility.html

I don't see that exact one there but other Infocus
You could also email them a question from their website
post #4 of 11
I suppose so. So you have a 1.78 screen, and I presume you want (and can use the scaler) to stretch 1.78 content to 1.33 to fill the X1 panel, then squeeze back to the 1.78 screen?

I am not sure if the U85 is set up for a 1.33>1.78 squeeze or a 1.78>2.35 squeeze.
post #5 of 11
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I found the answer. On the old X1 FAQ page it says if I set my dvd player to 16:9 and the projector to 4:3 the lens will work fine. I will be buying a SOny 400 disc changer for TV show dvds and use the HTPC for movies stored on the HD. I have no problem scaling on the HTPC.
Looks like I finally be buying a lens.

edit.... I just placed my order.
post #6 of 11
Maybe I'm crazy, but is it just me or does an anamorphic lens and an X1 seems like a big waste in this day and age? I'm a former X1 owner and I loved it for awhile, but an Infocus 4805 can be had for $300-$400 easily and it blows the X1 out of the water with or without an adapter on the X1. No anamorphic adapter or any mod will give the X1 the same level of performance as a 4805. So, why not just upgrade instead?

I'd sell that X1 asap on Ebay and use that anamorphic lens with a 4805 since you already bought it.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't get the logic behind buying an expensive lens for a dated 4:3 crossover projector worth about $250 at best when you can get a much more worthwhile improvement with a new projector like the 4805 or IN72. The 4805's/IN72's brightness, contrast, black level, colors and shadow detail all smoke the X1 and are true 16:9. Just trying to understand this decision is all. I mean no offense.
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by MTyson View Post

Maybe I'm crazy, but is it just me or does an anamorphic lens and an X1 seems like a big waste in this day and age? I'm a former X1 owner and I loved it for awhile, but an Infocus 4805 can be had for $300-$400 easily and it blows the X1 out of the water with or without an adapter on the X1. No anamorphic adapter or any mod will give the X1 the same level of performance as a 4805. So, why not just upgrade instead?

I'd sell that X1 asap on Ebay and use that anamorphic lens with a 4805 since you already bought it.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't get the logic behind buying an expensive lens for a dated 4:3 crossover projector worth about $250 at best when you can get a much more worthwhile improvement with a new projector like the 4805 or IN72. The 4805's/IN72's brightness, contrast, black level, colors and shadow detail all smoke the X1 and are true 16:9. Just trying to understand this decision is all. I mean no offense.


My X1 still doesn't have that many hours on the lens. Therefore I could still use it. The lens could be used later when I buy a new PJ. But for now, my pocket likes the lens for 500 to achieve 2.35:1 instead of getting a new PJ and lens. I can also change the X1 firmware to the 4805.
post #8 of 11
"My X1 still doesn't have that many hours on the lens. Therefore I could still use it. The lens could be used later when I buy a new PJ. But for now, my pocket likes the lens for 500 to achieve 2.35:1 instead of getting a new PJ and lens."

That assumes that you want to stay with VC instead of HE in the future and that any new projector has a small enough beam to work with the U85.
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by McCall View Post

"My X1 still doesn't have that many hours on the lens. Therefore I could still use it. The lens could be used later when I buy a new PJ. But for now, my pocket likes the lens for 500 to achieve 2.35:1 instead of getting a new PJ and lens."

That assumes that you want to stay with VC instead of HE in the future and that any new projector has a small enough beam to work with the U85.

I actually am not getting the VC lens, I am getting CAVX's MK II - HE lens.
post #10 of 11
Ah ok that makes more sense. I must have missed that part.
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by sknyfs View Post

My X1 still doesn't have that many hours on the lens. Therefore I could still use it. The lens could be used later when I buy a new PJ. But for now, my pocket likes the lens for 500 to achieve 2.35:1 instead of getting a new PJ and lens. I can also change the X1 firmware to the 4805.

You cannot change the firmware to equal an Infocus 4805. You're confusing the Infocus 4805 with the 4800. Two different classes of projectors. You can change the X1's firmware to make it a Screenplay 4800, but not a Screenplay 4805 (they're totaly different projectors). Big big difference. The 4805 is in another league than the 4800/X1. It has no white segment, a faster color wheel, darkchip2, etc.

I owned both an X1 with 4800 firmware and a 4805 projector. The X1/4800 has much more washed out colors than the 4805, much weaker contrast, poorer color accuracy, clearly poorer blacks, poorer shadow detail and isn't nearly as bright as the 4805 (despite what the specs say). The X1 has a white segment; the 4805 does not. The 4805 runs about $300-$400 as is true 16:9 native. The contrast is upto 2200:1 calibrated at about 600-750 lumens. The X1/4800 calibrates to about 800:1 contrast at 350 lumens. The 4805 can be converted to true 2.35:1 aspect ratio with an anamorphic adapter (which gives about 20% extra brightness to 2.35:1 films if VC is used). The X1 can only be converted to a true 16:9 projector with the same adapter.


Anamorphic lens on an X1/4800 = about 5-10% overall improvment.
4805 = about 75-100% improvement over an X1/4800 even with the lens. So, the 4805 is about twice as good overall, maybe more.
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