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post #7021 of 7384
Presumably. There's really been nothing concrete said by the FCC on this.

- Trip
post #7022 of 7384
A few more slipped under the door. WNCF-32 has petitioned to relocate to channel 31. KWNB-6 to 18. KSWT-13 to 16. KHGI-13 to 21.

- Trip
post #7023 of 7384
http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun...lineup_1172439 KCTV5 plans to add a Digital Sub channel or 2 in the future and yes I know it will change everyday. That's why I wait for the Rabbtt Ears Update Website to see KC/Orlando pop up.
post #7024 of 7384
You cannot use SiliconDust as a basis for knowing when something new is coming until you see actual images belonging to that station on SiliconDust.

When other stations are received in that local area on the same channel, it will pop up that way with the local station's call sign. That's how the Lineup Server was programmed.

- Trip
post #7025 of 7384
WEAU: 38 Adopted by NPRM

POST -TRANSITION DTV TABLE OF ALLOTMENTS, 47 C.F.R. 73.622(I), EAU CLAIRE, WISCONSIN. Substituted channel 38 for channel 13 at Eau Claire, WI. (Dkt No. RM-11632 11-100 ). Action by: Chief, Video Division, Media Bureau. Adopted: 06/09/2011 by NPRM. (DA No. 11-1034).

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-11-1034A1.pdf
post #7026 of 7384
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Originally Posted by Falcon_77 View Post

WEAU: 38 Adopted by NPRM

POST -TRANSITION DTV TABLE OF ALLOTMENTS, 47 C.F.R. 73.622(I), EAU CLAIRE, WISCONSIN. Substituted channel 38 for channel 13 at Eau Claire, WI. (Dkt No. RM-11632 11-100 ). Action by: Chief, Video Division, Media Bureau. Adopted: 06/09/2011 by NPRM. (DA No. 11-1034).

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-11-1034A1.pdf

When was the original request filed?
post #7027 of 7384
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

When was the original request filed?

May 13th. Very fast, huh? Probably due to the tower loss, but still...

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/docume...?id=7021649356
post #7028 of 7384
Happy 2nd Digital Transition Anniversary! June 12th, 2009. Two years ago all full power TV stations, except those stations performing the 30 day night light service, ceased analog broadcasting.

It is hard to believe it has been two years.
post #7029 of 7384
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Happy 2nd Digital Transition Anniversary! June 12th, 2009. Two years ago all full power TV stations, except those stations performing the 30 day night light service, ceased analog broadcasting.

It is hard to believe it has been two years.

I'm celebrating my gathering up all my pixles and sending them out to be cleaned. You should do that at least once a year you know...
post #7030 of 7384
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Originally Posted by OTAhead View Post

I'm celebrating my gathering up all my pixles and sending them out to be cleaned. You should do that at least once a year you know...

Good one!
post #7031 of 7384
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Originally Posted by OTAhead View Post

I'm celebrating my gathering up all my pixles and sending them out to be cleaned.

I thought that only affected old style analog pixels, not the new digital ones.

In all seriousness the transition has worked out well for us. Able to receive more stations then before and most are pretty stable. The one disappointment is WGBX, we watch a lot of NH and Boston PBS. Another 3 dB and I die a happy man.
post #7032 of 7384
I agree it has worked well for many of us, including myself
Reception on 1-5 rating scale:
Local channel------before-----after
2 (58, 7) ---------3 (w/Es) --5
4 (45) ------------4 (w/Es) --5
7 (41) ------------5----------5
9------------------3 (today is still "before" in Canada)
11 (17, 11)-------5----------5
13 (19, 13)-------5----------5
20 (21)-----------3----------5
24 (49)-----------5----------5
27 (56, 27)-------4----------5 (ant)
30 (29)-----------5----------5
31 (33, 31) ------3----------5 (ant)
32-----------------4 (today is still "before" in Canada)
36 (46)-----------5----------5
38 (39)-----------1----------0 (only visible with trop)
40 (5)-------------2---------5 (ant)
50 (14)-----------3----------5
56 (43)-----------3----------5
62 (44)-----------4----------5

*(w/Es) = otherwise fair reception subject to temporary complete loss due to interference from other stations caused by sporadic-E skip.
(ant) = perfect digital reception inconvenienced by the need to aim the rotating antenna in an unusual direction.

Note that WXYZ 7 was the only Detroit station with a truly snowfree OTA signal before transition.

I'm a little nervous about CBET 9. They go digital in less than three months. I figure with their lower digital power their signal will be right on the cusp of sufficient signal. I think I'll still be able to get them with my CM 3020 aimed right at McGregor, but I may not, or I may have a signal that disappears every time the microwave oven is turned on. I also wonder if Buckeye (who gets analog CBET OTA and sends it down cable channel 59) will continue to carry it when it goes digital (misc - I suspect that the antenna they use to receive CBET is still aimed at the Windsor riverfront, not McGregor, as a trop opening harms my cable reception of CBET more than my reception OTA).
post #7033 of 7384
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Originally Posted by OTAhead View Post


I'm celebrating my gathering up all my pixles and sending them out to be cleaned. You should do that at least once a year you know...

I always try and clean one of my pixels every day.
post #7034 of 7384
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Originally Posted by LithOTA View Post

I always try and clean one of my pixels every day.

With those 2 Megapixel displays, you need to do more like three thousand a day ... catch them all every 2 years.

I suggested 100 per hour on the PM schedule ...
post #7035 of 7384
I'd like to clean greed and corruption out of the FCC. Just two years and the current FCC is determined to destroy that expensive transition for no good reason.
post #7036 of 7384
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Originally Posted by LithOTA View Post

I always try and clean one of my pixels every day.

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Originally Posted by gbynum View Post

With those 2 Megapixel displays, you need to do more like three thousand a day ... catch them all every 2 years.

I suggested 100 per hour on the PM schedule ...

I gather all of mine up at once. That way I get the bulk rate. They are so darned more expensive to clean than the old analog ones...
post #7037 of 7384
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Originally Posted by Sammer View Post

I'd like to clean greed and corruption out of the FCC. Just two years and the current FCC is determined to destroy that expensive transition for no good reason.

In their eyes it is a very good reason. So their friends can get rich. End of story.
post #7038 of 7384
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Originally Posted by Sammer View Post

I'd like to clean greed and corruption out of the FCC. Just two years and the current FCC is determined to destroy that expensive transition for no good reason.

Just the past two years?

I've been pretty unimpressed by the FCC for the past twenty plus years, under the past several presidents (both parties).

All we've gotten is an ever-shrinking television broadcast band, and ever greater consolidation of ownership in *every* aspect of the media. That's been true in the Obama, Clinton, and both Bush administrations.
post #7039 of 7384
This one apparently came in at the same time WNCF did, but for some reason the PRM isn't posted. WMC-5 Memphis wants 17.

- Trip
post #7040 of 7384
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

This one apparently came in at the same time WNCF did, but for some reason the PRM isn't posted. WMC-5 Memphis wants 17.

- Trip

I find it funny how both WMC in Memphis and WTVF in Nashville both insisted on using ch 5 now 2 years later they want UHF. They should have saved everyone agravation 2 years ago but going to UHF anyways. With WTVF going to ch 25 you'd think WMC would stay on 5 and just ask for a power increase.
post #7041 of 7384
If WMC wants to do Mobile DTV, they wouldn't be able to do so on channel 5.

- Trip
post #7042 of 7384
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

If WMC wants to do Mobile DTV, they wouldn't be able to do so on channel 5.

- Trip

Shouldn't that have occured to them before 2009? THEY were the ones that insisted to go back to 5 for the DTV switchover.
post #7043 of 7384
The channel election process ended in 2007, before there was a Mobile DTV standard in place.

I know it seems like Mobile DTV has been around for a while, but it's actually a pretty recent development. They might have already sunk money into the channel 5 gear before realizing they would need a signal for MH.

- Trip
post #7044 of 7384
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

The channel election process ended in 2007, before there was a Mobile DTV standard in place.

I know it seems like Mobile DTV has been around for a while, but it's actually a pretty recent development. They might have already sunk money into the channel 5 gear before realizing they would need a signal for MH.

- Trip

Not really an excuse. The fact is MOST stations chose UHF. It was pretty well known that LOW-VHF would be an issue for DTV. They went ahead with it anyway.
post #7045 of 7384
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

Not really an excuse. The fact is MOST stations chose UHF. It was pretty well known that LOW-VHF would be an issue for DTV. They went ahead with it anyway.

Those in upper-VHF generally chose to keep the upper-VHF, while most of those on low-VHF chose to stay on UHF where feasible. Of course, WMC's pre-transition digital was on 52, outside of the core. I would bet that if WMC had been granted an in-core allotment, they would have stayed on UHF. (WMC was Raycom's only out-of-core digital with a low-VHF analog. The other Raycom low-VHFs were all in-core for digital and stayed on that in-core channel.)

I suspect that Raycom was hoping to get away with saving the money on building a new UHF by going with channel 5 with as much power as they could manage. I still from time to time hear some people say that "channels 5 and 6 aren't that bad" which I don't really buy.

- Trip
post #7046 of 7384
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

I still from time to time hear some people say that "channels 5 and 6 aren't that bad" which I don't really buy.- Trip

I will say that people like me in the fringe areas the hi-VHF and especially low-VHF are typically the strongest stations I get in. In cities where the towers are I see where there would be issues. With the few station on Ch 5 and Ch 6 wanting get off low-VHF makes you wonder if the FCC will ever allocate that spectrum to FM radio?
post #7047 of 7384
post #7048 of 7384
Here's a quick summary of the proposed FCC action. Unbelievable!

Larry
SF

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What Connecting America: The National Broadband Plan recommends:

Recommendation 5.8.5: The FCC should initiate a rulemaking proceeding to reallocate 120 megahertz from the broadcast television (TV) bands, including:
• Update rules on TV service areas and distance separations and revise the Table of Allotments to ensure the most efficient allotment of six-megahertz channel assignments as a starting point.
• Establish a licensing framework to permit two or more stations to share a six-megahertz channel.
• Determine rules for auctions of broadcast spectrum reclaimed through repacking and voluntary channel sharing.
• Explore alternatives—including changes in broadcast technical architecture, an overlay license auction or more extensive channel sharing—in the event the preceding recommendations do not yield a significant amount of spectrum.
• Take additional measures to increase efficiency of spectrum use in the broadcast TV bands.

With regard to timing, the Plan states that:
• The FCC should complete rulemaking proceedings on recommended steps for which it currently has authority as soon as practicable, but no later than 2011, and should conduct an auction of reallocated spectrum in 2012.
• If Congress grants the FCC the authority to do incentive auctions prior to the auction in 2012, then the FCC should delay any auction of reallocated broadcast TV spectrum until 2013. This delay would allow time to complete rulemaking proceedings on a voluntary, incentive auction.
• All reallocated spectrum should be cleared by 2015.
post #7049 of 7384
Actually, that report is a year old. It's now being questioned by Congressman John Dingell.

http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/121858

Ron
post #7050 of 7384
Ya gotta wonder what they are smoking in DC these days...channel share?? OH yeah thats gonna happen!!!!
Repack?? in major markets there IS NO channels open......they intend to do away with LP/LDs??? Thought they were created for LOCAL involvement, etc...
Sharing??
They have their heads buried DEEP somewhere dark....and its not in the ground!
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