The official final DTV Table Of Allotments/channel change thread - Page 246

I'm not getting your link. They all say WTB.

WTB = Wireless Telecommunications Bureau. Remember, it's not the stations that are themselves filing to move off of 51, the WTB is filing to move them involuntarily off of 51. The facilities are identical to the stations involved; just compare KGAN, for instance, to the 29 in Cedar Rapids. Power and height are the same, just different channel.

- Trip

Well with the incentive auctions 51 was going to go away anyways. The FCC might not get 120 MHz like they wanted but they'll get something. I don't like how they want to move Memphis to 27. Is it the FCC's goal to have Memphis an Nashville have all the same channel assignments? Both have a 5 and 23 already. When WTVF gets on 25 they'll be two 25's now they'll be two 27's if this goes through.

List of full power channel 51 licenses:

http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tv...&type=3&list=2

It's ridiculous for the FCC to move stations from 51 to 38, 39, and 50 if they're planning to clear that spectrum with an incentive auction.

Nobody said the US Government was intelligent......especially the FCC.

Lately it seems the FCC thinks that RF stops at the county line....in Texas we have issues with LDs on channels with a full power or a Class A 90 miles away causing issues....(and with the ducting along the Gulf Coast, we know a little about such things...KBMT in Beaumont, TX is LMAing RF43 and using it as a source for translator RF36 to the east; problem? The path to RF43, a LD, is right in line from RF36 site with a 60KW Class A at 2000ft 90miles away...a little ducting and you get the idea...not the picture

Repacking the band is ludicrous if the FCC moves fwd with this 120MHz retaking...there is no room for all the FS and LD/CDs in there....and then add in the analogs going to digital..I hate to think about San Fran market or similar.....(shudder)

The FCC wants co-channeling in adjacent markets because they don't want anyone to watch out of market stations. It's all about DMA, DMA, DMA!!!

That has nothing to do with DMA. Repacking the number of stations necessary demands more co-channeling. The TV band will become nothing but a mess of interference in many markets that people will not want to put up with and will cause people to purchase services from the wireless companies to watch their programs. That is what the FCC is after. To destroy FREE OTA TV as we know it for the financial benefit of certain wireless companies. Cronyism. Plain and simple.

Good Luck with finding another frequency for WTAE, Pittsburgh. They would'nt be on channel 51 if another 1 Megawatt frequency was available.

They have a LD on 22. Any reason why they can't convert that to a FP other than cost?

Too close to WFXP.

- Trip

I'm curious as to why WKEF in Dayton was not on the list of stations having to change channels

I think the list was only a beginning.

- Trip

According to a search on Trip's Rabbit Ears website it appears that channels 27 & 31 are the only open UHF frequencies for a full service station. Channel 31 would require the FCC to dispose of KDKA's application for a fill-in translator and who knows if either are suitable for a million watt ERP.

And it looks like WEPX Greenville has petitioned to relocate from channel 51 to 26. No paperwork yet.

- Trip

At least one of the six stations on channel 38 or higher in Pittsburgh has to either go to low VHF or go out of business and channel 14 and 18 (Land Mobile) have to be made available for television repacking rather than spectrum auctions for there to be even a slight chance of the FCC recovering channels 31-51 in the area and that's without considering what it will take to recover spectrum in adjacent markets. Three of the stations that would have to be moved are maximum power major network affiliates.

Wow, the FCC wasted no time. I hadn't found the documents for WEPX in PRM12MB, where I would have expected them to be, so I decided on a whim to try looking for recently-assigned docket numbers... sure enough, the FCC already assigned it a docket number, 12-130, and I found the documents there.

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/docume...?id=7021919921

I'll be keeping an eye out for an NPRM any day now.

- Trip

26 is actually a better channel, but I doubt seriously with that short tower that WEPX will gain as many viewers as they think, especially with all the trees around eastern NC.

This whole wireless business is garbage. Elites looking to suck more out of the sheep.

Anybody have any idea what's the status and holdup on the WNCT Greenville NC request to move to UHF ?? It's been over a year and a half since they submitted the application......wonder if FCC is waiting on repacking fallout or is it dissent from other stations ? Wonder where and when they will end up ?


Thanks.....

Look in the Greenville, NC thread. There is the explanation of why no channel changes nationwide (not just WNCT) have been granted.

Here's a good paper on DTV repacking.

http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022112024

Ron

Thanks !

It never fails....i ALWAYS read the Greenville HD thread first, then pop over here......EXCEPT yesterday......i got it backwards.....posted the Q here before checking the Greenville HD thread. I checked over there afterwards and I saw the new answers-- DOH !!! Sheesh...sorry guys.....but thanks for the heads up and links, really appreciate it !! Yeah, I've read the FCC papers. Thanks again...

Yup....Repacking freeze as i suspected......sad.

Check out Trips blog post on Rabbitears.info for some really good ideas and insight into what should be done with radio and broadcast TV. I hope the message he sends in is heard.

Hi,

 

 

http://stopthecap.com/2012/09/11/fcc-prepares-to-sacrifice-free-over-the-air-uhf-tv-channels-for-lucrative-wireless-auctions/

 

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