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post #31 of 98
Anyone have experience of H/K 8385FL? I am a sucker for looks....I have HK receivers, etc... love to keep the same look.

but i am also in the market for dvd/cd changer... one thing... i would like to have HDCD capability.
post #32 of 98
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Originally Posted by CHRIS650 View Post

Anyone have experience of H/K 8385FL? I am a sucker for looks....I have HK receivers, etc... love to keep the same look.

but i am also in the market for dvd/cd changer... one thing... i would like to have HDCD capability.

I am not going to speak on the H/Ks audiophile merit vs. any of the others listed here... But I can say that the build quality is solid enough that I felt comfortable installing them in semi-commercial systems that have heavy use.

I put one in my best friend's ex-GF hair salon. It gets like 50 hrs per week, and have been out there for at least 2 years.
post #33 of 98
I went through this same debate about 10-12 years ago... and I also needed remotely controlled variable line outs because I used an old 2 channel rig with no remote.

The options then were the Sony ES and the Nakamichi Music Bank.

I bought the Nak MB-2, which was from the last decent series of MusicBank models. The next series were the "s" series (MB-1s, MB-2s, etc) and they had incredibly bad QC and massive service issues.

Mine is STILL going strong, and the S/PDIF out goes into the Marantz reciever's digital ins. So I still have a solid transport and more modern DACs.
post #34 of 98
Hello Everyone,

Can someone provide any info on the following Toshiba carousel unit? Model # SD-2715.

I have it in my system and I am rather knew to mid/hi fi music so bare with me. Just wondering if it is worth building around or not worth it for two channel music listening. Thanks.
post #35 of 98
I recently purchased and have been listening to the Rotel RCC-1055 in a Hyperion Sound Design system, with 938's and their solid state preamp, 100 watt monoblocks. The Rotel is excellent, smooth, open, accurate, quiet and presents a discrete soundstage. And the convenience of a changer is undeniable, so this is, IMHO, the audiophile changer.
post #36 of 98
Marantz has a new 5-disc changer, the VC-6001, $649 list, $449 here. I wonder how this would compare to the Rotel?
post #37 of 98
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Originally Posted by cinemascope View Post

I went through this same debate about 10-12 years ago... and I also needed remotely controlled variable line outs because I used an old 2 channel rig with no remote.

The options then were the Sony ES and the Nakamichi Music Bank.

I bought the Nak MB-2, which was from the last decent series of MusicBank models. The next series were the "s" series (MB-1s, MB-2s, etc) and they had incredibly bad QC and massive service issues.

Mine is STILL going strong, and the S/PDIF out goes into the Marantz reciever's digital ins. So I still have a solid transport and more modern DACs.

I haven't seen anything by Nakamichi in ages. Are they still in business? They had a reputation for making the best cassette decks at one time.
post #38 of 98
I too am looking at the Marantz cc4001 versus the Rotel 1055. Is the Rotel really that much better than the cc4001?

i will most likely be using the digital connects to a SR7001 so would there really be a difference?
post #39 of 98
Here's a story:

A few weeks ago I took a (1994?) Nakamichi Music Bank CD Player 2 out of storage where it has sat for probably 7 years. Hooked it up to my current system just for fun.

I was absolutely astounded at how good it sounds. I'm NOT any type of fan of multi-disc players because I question the quality of the transport and I have no idea why, 13 or 15 years ago, whenever, I actually bought it. Maybe it was because I had lived in Japan for 6 years in the 70s and remembered that Nakamichi was indeed a big name there. Nonetheless, for the couple of hours I played CDs on it, it was FUN. It made me question my entire current quest to find the latest greatest DAC............................

Regarding the company, they must have peaked when they introduced the Dragon and I have no idea what happened to that fine company after that........
post #40 of 98
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Originally Posted by zoney99 View Post

Here's a story:

A few weeks ago I took a (1994?) Nakamichi Music Bank CD Player 2 out of storage where it has sat for probably 7 years. Hooked it up to my current system just for fun.

I was absolutely astounded at how good it sounds. I'm NOT any type of fan of multi-disc players because I question the quality of the transport and I have no idea why, 13 or 15 years ago, whenever, I actually bought it. Maybe it was because I had lived in Japan for 6 years in the 70s and remembered that Nakamichi was indeed a big name there. Nonetheless, for the couple of hours I played CDs on it, it was FUN. It made me question my entire current quest to d the latest greatest DAC............................

Regarding the company, they must have peaked when they introduced the Dragon and I have no idea what happened to that fine company after that........

after reading this post im starting to feel bad. yesterday, i literally threw away a nak. 'music bank cd player 2' that i have had for 4 yrs.

some elderly lady gave it to me for cleaning out her garage but she told me it didnt work. so i took it home, tried it, the changer was jammed, so i opened it, 'fixed' changer, and it worked. for about 12 minutes until it jammed again. this went on for the last 4 yrs.

i didnt have it professionally fixed cuz ive got about 12 dvd players and i use 2 of them as cd players and didnt need any more boxes around. i tried giving it away but no takers.i guess they all like their mp3s better. it also skipped.

i still have my vintage 31 yr old nak 600 cassette deck (right now im listening to 'symphonic queen'); the 600 runs thru an aphex 204 'exciter' into various sound systems (one of which uses nakamichi monitors (5-1as)-which im listening to now); it sounds as good as a lot of my cds.

i lived in tokyo in early '70s, the nak 1000 had just come out but i couldnt afford one. even today, id like to get a mr-1.

nakamichi is still around (the last i heard-jr.com (j&r music world)was selling their stuff) but they sold out to some other CE marketing company. if you google the name, you can find out some info on nak.


the stuff they put out now is of questionable quality, imo. they sort of 'boze-ified'.

post edit- i just realized i still have the manual and its not for the mb2. it was really an mb2s, so i dont feel so bad.
post #41 of 98
Westgate -

My Nak has a miiinnnooorr little hitch in opening up the tray, otherwise it is pristine. Unlike some of our audiophile brothers I have much less than perfect hearing (courtesy of the headsets I wore for several years while working for my Uncle, Sam) so maybe that old DAC is outdated and the DAC in the latest Wadia or Cary or blah blah blah in fact blows it away. BTW - MY latest DAC is a $40 Alien Dac v.2 that my son, a West Point grad with a double E degree, built for me. It sounds just fine.

IMHO Japan was on the leading edge of electronics in the 70s. I remember seeing all kinds of "small factor" enclosures from Denon etc packed with electronics at the same time that Pioneer was build the Spec 1 and Spec 2, and Technics had some awesome open reel decks. Nak was def a real player in the industry also. It's too bad that trend turned toward mass marketed, low/middle end stuff.

Happy Thanksgiving to all!
post #42 of 98
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Originally Posted by zoney99 View Post

Westgate -

My Nak has a miiinnnooorr little hitch in opening up the tray, otherwise it is pristine. Unlike some of our audiophile brothers I have much less than perfect hearing (courtesy of the headsets I wore for several years while working for my Uncle, Sam) so maybe that old DAC is outdated and the DAC in the latest Wadia or Cary or blah blah blah in fact blows it away. BTW - MY latest DAC is a $40 Alien Dac v.2 that my son, a West Point grad with a double E degree, built for me. It sounds just fine.

IMHO Japan was on the leading edge of electronics in the 70s. I remember seeing all kinds of "small factor" enclosures from Denon etc packed with electronics at the same time that Pioneer was build the Spec 1 and Spec 2, and Technics had some awesome open reel decks. Nak was def a real player in the industry also. It's too bad that trend turned toward mass marketed, low/middle end stuff.

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

congrats on son getting thru 'the point'! and u for motivating him. forty yrs ago, my dad always kept on me to get grades good enough to try for the naval acad. (or any of the mil. schools) but i never could get my act together enough. my fault, not my dads!
post #43 of 98
the last Nak I owned was in a mid 90's Lexus LS400 luxury car, as well as a half height single slot load 7 disc scsi cd-rom drive.
post #44 of 98
McIntosh makes a very nice sounding and extremely well-built slot-loading cd changer, the MCD205. It is not in the price range you mentioned, but it does have the best build quality of any changer I have seen.
post #45 of 98
i just got back into the audio end and i am still using a 300 cd changer from sony - not the ES version - its been about close to 10 years - but still working great and sounds not that bad -- i will be using an oppo 981 for a single disk cd and dvd player -

would the marantz cd changer sound that much better than the old sony i have now ? and the 981 ? - i may want to get rid of the sony changer if something goes wrong - and not sure whats a good player today - i just got the marantz 7002 and sounds great --

would anyone know if its worth it to get an old Sony ES 5 disk changer repaired ? i have one that i kept in mint cond. besides the fact that its not working now - it turns on - but the tray dosnt spin or make noise when you press eject etc. -

i paid $750 when i got it about 15 years ago - at least 12 years back for sure -

is it worth to get it fixed and if not - what can i really do with it ? besides just throw it out - i feel bad because it looks so brand new -

can it be sold for parts - ? if yes - how can i sell it ?

thanks
post #46 of 98
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

would anyone know if its worth it to get an old Sony ES 5 disk changer repaired ? i have one that i kept in mint cond. besides the fact that its not working now - it turns on - but the tray dosnt spin or make noise when you press eject etc. -

i paid $750 when i got it about 15 years ago - at least 12 years back for sure -

is it worth to get it fixed and if not - what can i really do with it ? besides just throw it out - i feel bad because it looks so brand new -

can it be sold for parts - ? if yes - how can i sell it ?

thanks

expresso712,

Where are you located? If you find a local service tech, they should be able to debug and fix the changer - parts and labor might get expensive, however.

You can always sell the changer on ebay/craigslist/even audiogon if you are upfront about all of the functional issues/problems with the player.

I wrote earlier in the thread about some very good and affordable Philips/Magnavox/Marantz 5-disc changers. There is local ex-service tech and hifi builder here in Phoenix (Don Allen) who specializes in these mods. I have one of his modded changers and I like it very much.

- Steve O.
post #47 of 98
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Originally Posted by scorch123 View Post

expresso712,

Where are you located? If you find a local service tech, they should be able to debug and fix the changer - parts and labor might get expensive, however.

You can always sell the changer on ebay/craigslist/even audiogon if you are upfront about all of the functional issues/problems with the player.

I wrote earlier in the thread about some very good and affordable Philips/Magnavox/Marantz 5-disc changers. There is local ex-service tech and hifi builder here in Phoenix (Don Allen) who specializes in these mods. I have one of his modded changers and I like it very much.

- Steve O.

thanks - i really dont need another unit - but i feel bad to just throw out the ES changer - if its too expensive - i rather buy a new marantz - when you talk about modded - what excatly gets done to the player and how much does it cost modded in total - ? do you have to send the person the player or can you get one already done from the person ?

thanks - and what is the price for one of those
post #48 of 98
how much could i sell this ES changer for in non working condition ? i know it in mint cond. other wise -
but the changer itself is not moving - not turning or open -
post #49 of 98
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

thanks - i really dont need another unit - but i feel bad to just throw out the ES changer - if its too expensive - i rather buy a new marantz - when you talk about modded - what excatly gets done to the player and how much does it cost modded in total - ? do you have to send the person the player or can you get one already done from the person ?

thanks - and what is the price for one of those

You might want to contact Don directly and see if he can service your Sony ES player. He may know other techs that specialize in Sony CD changer repair.

I do not know the exact details of Don's mods, because they vary from player to player. For example, if you begin with any of the Marantz Special Edition players or changers, they already have enhancements with chassis dampening, better power supply design, and better output stage design. I'll PM you with his contact info, and you can get the info directly.

- Steve O.
post #50 of 98
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Originally Posted by scorch123 View Post

You might want to contact Don directly and see if he can service your Sony ES player. He may know other techs that specialize in Sony CD changer repair.

I do not know the exact details of Don's mods, because they vary from player to player. For example, if you begin with any of the Marantz Special Edition players or changers, they already have enhancements with chassis dampening, better power supply design, and better output stage design. I'll PM you with his contact info, and you can get the info directly.

- Steve O.


thanks alot - i got your pm - i will give him a call or email after the holidays and see what can be done - if its worth it or not -
post #51 of 98
Buy a $100 500G hard drive and rip all your CD's to your PC as a WAV file. Get an M-audio 2496 soundcard for digital out, and run a coax cable to your sytem.

Now you have access to all your CD's, not just 5 at a time, and the CD's now become your archive. You don't have to worry about the changer messing up your CD's.
post #52 of 98
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Originally Posted by tjl5709 View Post

Buy a $100 500G hard drive and rip all your CD's to your PC as a WAV file. Get an M-audio 2496 soundcard for digital out, and run a coax cable to your sytem.

Now you have access to all your CD's, not just 5 at a time, and the CD's now become your archive. You don't have to worry about the changer messing up your CD's.


so when the hard drive takes the "Big Dump" you gotta start all over ??? !!!

By all means when putting sizeable collections into storage one should always have a backup, correct ?? !!
post #53 of 98
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Originally Posted by twitch54 View Post

so when the hard drive takes the "Big Dump" you gotta start all over ??? !!!

By all means when putting sizeable collections into storage one should always have a backup, correct ?? !!

Does this mean I shouldn't buy the Yamaha CDR-HD1500?
post #54 of 98
See my previous posts above regarding the ol' school Nakamichi. Personally, I wouldn't buy another cd changer again. That was a plan back before the whole computer audio thang existed and I think that tjl and twitch both give good advice. Learn how to use your computer as the cd drive, get an outboard DAC, back up your hard drive, and have fun. Yes, it takes a little bit of research to get the plan, and there's a learning curve on how to burn your cds to the hard drive (what format to use etc) but it's fun and it works, at least for me. Here's what I use right now formy 2 channel system:
Mac Mini 1.83 Ghz Core Duo/2 Mhz SDRAM - Alien DAC - Melos SHA 1 linestage - Aragon 4004 amp. My music is burned using ALAC - Apple Lossless. The whole thing is not rocket science and I think too many experts make it unnecessarily complicated. Whatever you do, enjoy the music and have fun!
post #55 of 98
Check out the new Stereophile Magazine article on the McIntosh Music Server
post #56 of 98
sounds like this changer is very good ? i am in the market for a better unit and leaning with this marantz changer -

would this unit CC4001 sound better than my old sony megachanger ?? also - which would give a better cleaner sound - hooking it up analog or with the digital connection ?

up to now - i always used analog - -- since i have a 7002 this will look nice also - i also read someone that got this unit and added a BBE Maximizer - and said it was so much better - added an extra layer or Hi Fi sound etc. -

has anyone had any experince with this BBE Maximizer ?

here is the link - sounds nice - any ideas or suggestions on this

http://www.djdeals.com/bbe482I.htm

thanks
post #57 of 98
I have a Marantz CC4000OSE that I really like for both sound and function. Does anyone else have any experience with this changer? Do you prefer using the analog or digital output? I have mine paired up with a Marantz SR8000 receiver and I seem to prefer the analog output on the changer even though the receiver has their nice HDAM converter. It seems to give me beefier bass response and a little more openness in the treble. The digital output seems a little more reserved and less open. I absolutely love the changer mechanism. It is by far the fastest and quietest you'll ever find.
post #58 of 98
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Originally Posted by avguy78 View Post

I have a Marantz CC4000OSE that I really like for both sound and function. Does anyone else have any experience with this changer? Do you prefer using the analog or digital output? I have mine paired up with a Marantz SR8000 receiver and I seem to prefer the analog output on the changer even though the receiver has their nice HDAM converter. It seems to give me beefier bass response and a little more openness in the treble. The digital output seems a little more reserved and less open. I absolutely love the changer mechanism. It is by far the fastest and quietest you'll ever find.


i just ordered the CC4001 - -not sure if its the same one as you have - nice to hear good things about marantz - i love there sound - i have the 7002 and already have the cables ready - i got both analog and digital - not sure which i will use - but the more i research it - between the two - the more i feel the analog will give a nicer sound - i cant say for sure since i havnt used an digital output on anything just yet - i do plan on trying it - but i got both cables anyway - i am hoping i can connect both and then just pick the one i want to use - not sure if it will work out or else i just have to leave one connected at a time - this time i got a digital coaxial cable - i hope the CC4001 works as nice as yours
post #59 of 98
thanks machani for the help. Just ordered my cc4001 always have appreciated the help I get at this site.Let you know how it sounds when I get it.
post #60 of 98
First let me tell you what this feature is that I am talking about.

I have a Kenwood DP-R6080 carousal. It is some 10 yrs old but
still works and plays fine. I guess Kenwood no longer makes CD players.

It has a feature/button called "PGM FILE". Please note that this is not same
as just program-play option all the above mentioned cd players give.
The problem with just program-play option is that they disappear when the
unit is turned off. Where as on my Kenwood once I program the tracks on
a CD and save it, it is there for ever unless I clear it or re-program it.

On my Kenwood I can program the tracks for a CD and then save this
by just pressing the "PGM FILE" button. Next time I play the same CD,
I can play that program by pressing that button again. I dont know how
it recognizes each CD. But I guess that is beyond the scope of the discussion
and I also dont know much about CD player technology. Who cares how
it does. But it does :-) I guess CD's have some information stored
which can be accessed by the CD players to identify the CD's or something.
Anyway...it doesnt matter how my good old kenwood does. May be
it has a small hard disk or memory to store the info. I dont have the
manual anymore so I cant find out more about it. I can put a picture
of the front panel :-)

The only issue is that this feature is only on the front panel and so
cant be used from remote. Fine with me as my CD player is just within my
reach. Also it only allows 100 CD's to be saved. Not a problem to me
as I dont have 100 CD's. I also dont program all CD's. I only do those
that have just 1 or 2 songs that I like so that I dont have to play
all the lousy songs in the CD.

So now my question is: are there any CD carousals that will let me save the
program so that they dont disappear when I turn the unit off.
I know there are CD players with a hard disk. But I dont want to spend
that much. I know they are uncompressed files but I prefer to play
the CD and use an option like the "PGM FILE" on my Kenwood.

I dont know for how long my Kenwood will last. So it is time to
replace it with something that has the same/similar feature.
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