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Samsung's LN-Txx53H

post #1 of 76
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I recently saw these new 720p Samsung's on best buy's website and now I have made this the official topic about the 2007 720p Samsungs that have come out. Does anyone here have one? And if so could you post your feelings about this set. Pictures of it in action would also be helpful.
post #2 of 76
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They have a LCD line that falls under the 53 line as well.

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/L...T4053HXXAA.asp
post #3 of 76
This is the upgraded 2007 model of last year's 51 series.
post #4 of 76
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Does anyone own this set?
post #5 of 76
I just ordered one. I can only get a 32" and it doesn't look like the 61, 65, or 66 comes in that size so I went with the 53.
post #6 of 76
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Originally Posted by Hross13 View Post

I just ordered one. I can only get a 32" and it doesn't look like the 61, 65, or 66 comes in that size so I went with the 53.

Post a few pictures when it comes in.
post #7 of 76
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Originally Posted by WaldorfSalad View Post

Samsung sure do seem to use confusing model numbers. IMHO, they seem to have way too many variants of their TVs.

Agreed they do have too many models coming out in 2007. But at least they are giving us choice.
post #8 of 76
Pendragon...I just returned two new Ln-t2342H because of off angle fade out problems... If you are interested in these new sets make sure you check them out on the show room floor from all angles. (especially from Below the set looking up at it) I know for sure this serious flaw exists in the LN-T2342H and the LN-T2353H (which is a total shame because the 53 series sets look totally cool).

Take care and buyer beware....

Steve in Denver.
post #9 of 76
I have a question along the same line. Does anyone own, or has anyone fiddled with the LN-T4642H? I saw it the other day, and it was impressive in some ways. I could have sworn it had one of those "Full HD" stickers on it the store, but the Samsung site says it's 720p. It was very bright- maybe too bright, and the whites looked like they were a little blown out. On the other hand, it seemed as sharp as the 52"...uh...Sharp it was on the same shelf with, and although the colors weren't as saturated, they looked more real to me. What was most impressive was when I looked it it from a fairly extreme angle. It and the Sharp were the only sets whose pictures didn't change significantly. I was wondering if anyone here had seen it and gotten the chance to tone down the brightness. If so, how did it look?
post #10 of 76
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Originally Posted by Thouger View Post

Pendragon...I just returned two new Ln-t2342H because of off angle fade out problems... If you are interested in these new sets make sure you check them out on the show room floor from all angles. (especially from Below the set looking up at it) I know for sure this serious flaw exists in the LN-T2342H and the LN-T2353H (which is a total shame because the 53 series sets look totally cool).

Take care and buyer beware....

Steve in Denver.

What do you mean by off angle fade out? I know the LN-T3242H has a 170 degree viewing angle versus 178 for the 3253H.

I just got a brand new LN-S3296D (last year's top of the line 32") that I received with a scratched screen right out of the box. I was hoping that Samsung will come out with a replacement for this tv, but it doesn't look like it. Now since their "warehouse" is out of the discontinued 3296D, they are trying to send me a 3242H as a replacement, I guess based on the contrast ratio being the closest to my set. What upsets me is that I'd be receiving this year's low end model (LN-S3241 replacement). I'm still arguing my point with them, especially considering the viewing angle isn't as good. I'd like to get the 3253H, even though it's still not the high end 96 series replacement, but I'm disappointed to hear your opinion of it.
post #11 of 76
...(especially from Below the set looking up at it) I know for sure this serious flaw exists in the LN-T2342H and the LN-T2353H (which is a total shame because the 53 series sets look totally cool).

Now why would you ever want to get down low enough for that to happen anyway? Thats not a flaw, its the nature of LCD. Side to side off axis is good but height wise, especially from the bottom, theres no point in them trying to make a panel have a perfect picture from there. Its not like you are watching a movie from 2 feet in front of the set, lying on the floor....
just imho of course..
post #12 of 76
[quote=JPowers]What do you mean by off angle fade out? I know the LN-T3242H has a 170 degree viewing angle versus 178 for the 3253H.

Jpowers... Maybe I'm not saying it technically right..but it fades to black once you look from below the set....and I'm not talking looking dramatically below either....just barely below the bottom of the screen horizon the picture fades to almost a photo negative look. This isn't common in new LCDs...I own a Samsung Lns4096 and now an Lns2651 and there are no problems at all...

Don't take my word for it...check them out for yourself though.

Take Care,

Steve in Denver.
post #13 of 76
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Originally Posted by Schaden View Post

Now why would you ever want to get down low enough for that to happen anyway? Thats not a flaw, its the nature of LCD. Side to side off axis is good but height wise, especially from the bottom, theres no point in them trying to make a panel have a perfect picture from there. Its not like you are watching a movie from 2 feet in front of the set, lying on the floor....
just imho of course..

Schaden... check these sets out for yourself and you'll see what I'm talking about. And of course people need to be able to watch the sets from below...(wall mounts, etc.) Unless you plan on setting your television on the floor like the old CRT wooden floor model TVs...and watching either direct on or a little above.

I'm not making this crap up...TRUST ME...you'll be shocked when you see how bad it is...I'm not talking about a little fade out...I'm talking major photo negative effect...(that's the best way I can describe it).

I ended up paying a bit more and purchasing last years model Lns2651D which had no photo negative effect at all...

Good Luck,

Steve in Denver
post #14 of 76
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post #15 of 76
Nice find. I'll keep them in mind as a possible company to get the 4053 that I want. Customers have a love 'em or hate 'em opinion on Tech Depot:

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Techdepot
post #16 of 76
Thanks, read the reviews by people on resellerratings. Not many reviews recently though, or big purchases like tvs.

Will probably give them a call on Monday to see if they actually have this in stock. If it is, there's no way another retailer can beat this price.
post #17 of 76
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Originally Posted by Thouger View Post

Jpowers... Maybe I'm not saying it technically right..but it fades to black once you look from below the set....and I'm not talking looking dramatically below either....just barely below the bottom of the screen horizon the picture fades to almost a photo negative look. This isn't common in new LCDs...I own a Samsung Lns4096 and now an Lns2651 and there are no problems at all...

Don't take my word for it...check them out for yourself though.

When I originally scanned your post I thought you were looking at the 32" panels. Is it possible that the smaller 23" screens have more of a problem with viewing angles? I'll go to Best Buy to check them out, though. It would be a shame if there are no 32" Samsungs to replace my 3296. It's an awesome tv.
post #18 of 76
Just bought the LNT3253H today. Read your post and did a little test. I actually sat on the floor about 2 feet from the display and looking up at from a 18" below saw nearly no visible difference (blacks seem to fade a bit as I got closer and lower) Otherwise, beautiful display, very bright.
post #19 of 76
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Originally Posted by dalzar View Post

Just bought the LNT3253H today. Read your post and did a little test. I actually sat on the floor about 2 feet from the display and looking up at from a 18" below saw nearly no visible difference (blacks seem to fade a bit as I got closer and lower) Otherwise, beautiful display, very bright.

Any clouding or ghosting?

How's gaming on it?
post #20 of 76
Also, anyone have the 4053 yet?
post #21 of 76
I just received the Samsung LN-T4053H in replacement for a LN-4051D, and it is quite the upgrade. I've been very please w/this panel thus far.

If interested, I can take some pics and post a quick review.
post #22 of 76
Sorry, I have only had it a few hours. It is a set for my home office. I just connected it to my component connection on my DISH HD tuner. I haven't really given it a run through. I am happy with the image quality, contrast, and brightness. I have it side by side with my Sony KF-50WE610 LCD projection. It is brighter and produces better blacks. Handles SD almost as gracefully as the Sony. As expected with a smaller display, it crush the Sony in HD.
post #23 of 76
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Originally Posted by RLampke View Post

I just received the Samsung LN-T4053H in replacement for a LN-4051D, and it is quite the upgrade. I've been very please w/this panel thus far.

If interested, I can take some pics and post a quick review.

Please, I'm sure there are a lot of people that want to know how these new Samsung's preform.
post #24 of 76
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

Please, I'm sure there are a lot of people that want to know how these new Samsung's preform.

I second the request. Would be tremendously appreciated; I'm about to pull the trigger on the set myself in the next few days.

Can you also verify if the 4053 has a built in QAM Tuner?
post #25 of 76
Ok - this is just a quick review as I hate to type

For starters, I think it's worth telling a quick background of what kind of pic I like, my HT setups and what I'm comparing this to; and how old this panel is.

Overview:

- Both of my displays, the Qualia 006 in my HT room and my Sony 52XBR3 in the Great Room [what I'm comparing the Samsung to] are ISF calibrated - I plan to get the Samsung ISF calibrated as well, but as if yet it is not. Both displays are calibrated for deep blacks and true neutral color reproduction, which is typical of true ISF calibration. No, my Sony does not have any clouding whatsoever - and thank god

- I received the panel from ABT Electronics on 3/25/07 - factory fresh

- This Panel is for the Master Bedroom, and will be wall mounted in a few weeks.

- The connection is HDMI.

- Yes it has a QAM Tuner.

Photos:
These are just some quick pics so take the pics w/a grain of salt; they do not come close to capturing the panel's ability to produce a stellar pic.

Off:


On:



Build Quality:

Outside Construction is flawless, fantastic; this panel is beautifully crafted and is stunning to look at - the attention to detail is every bit of my XBR3. Panel Construction is equally impressive; no horizontal/vertical banding, backlight leakage or clouds whatsoever - 100% linear even in a totally blackout room.

The glowing halo on the bottom of the screen is a wonderful touch

HD Performance:

Spectacular - way better than the LN-S4051D and about 90% of the Sony. After ISF calibration I'm sure I can get to 95% of the Sony - this Panel is that good. Neutral colors and great blacks and a smooth and very detailed pic; but you have to adjust the panel to achieve this performance. Out of the box as w/all Panels, these settings can be overpowering IMO. I will say there is some over scan in HD and there is no 1:1 mapping - so that was a little disappointing, especially for you gamers out there. However, I estimate the amount of over scan in HD is about 1% - but don't hold me to this. Also, even though this panel is 720p, you'll never miss this panel over a 1080p because of it's size - unless you sit extremely close in which case you'll see artifacts either way.

SD Performance:

Above average from other offerings and about the same as the XBR3; loosing out to the Sony only because there is no "Wide Zoom" for 4:3 material which I really like. The Samsung seems to over scan too much if you use the zoom modes, and 16:9 mode seems to compress and stretch the Pic more than the Sony. But this is SD so it's garbage-in-garbage-out anyhow.

Conclusion:

For thoes that are on the fence about this TV, get off of it and go and get yourself this panel. There is no better performing or looking panel in this price range IMO.

I'll end it here, so if there are any specific questions let me know and I'll answer them if I can.
post #26 of 76
Thank you so much for the pics and review. Very much appreciated.

Can you comment on the speaker/sound quality of the set itself (the "hidden bottom speakers")? Does it sound muffled or tinny?

Any idea if the HDMI is 1.3?
post #27 of 76
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Originally Posted by andysc View Post

Thank you so much for the pics and review. Very much appreciated.

Can you comment on the speaker/sound quality of the set itself (the "hidden bottom speakers")? Does it sound muffled or tinny?

Any idea if the HDMI is 1.3?

The sound quality is ok; not terrible but not impressive either - it can sound "plastic" if cranked up. But that's to be expected as the speakers are probably of laptop quality . Not a reason to go elswhere IMO.

Not sure about the HDMI verson, but I'm sure it's listed on www.samsungusa.com. I want to say v1.2 but again don't quote me.
post #28 of 76
Gonna pull the trigger come this payday thursday.

Is there an easy way to check for clouds/flashlights? And also for dead pixels? I haven't bought a LCD TV before, so I don't know how to test for them.

Thanks.
post #29 of 76
Oh, forgot to ask. Did it include the cleaning cloth?

Also, after the tv has been running for a bit, can you put your hand near the top of the screen of the set? How hot is it compared to the 4051D?
post #30 of 76
I saw this set at BB today and was very impressed with the colors/contrast levels.

RLampke, if this was to be your main living room TV, would you still have bought it considering it does not do 1080p? Are 1080p sets worth the extra $$$$?
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