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post #2461 of 3008
The Vienna schonberg were the first speakers that ever really spoke to me. I finally have the means to afford them, but cannot find anywhere. I live in the south, does anyone know of any retailers in this part of the country that carry them?
post #2462 of 3008
Hey everyone,

Disclaimer: This is my first time posting on a msg board ever, so hopefully I don't violate etiquette as badly as during my golf game.

My current system consists of:

Front: Mozart
Center: Maestro
Surround: Haydn
Sub: Rel Storm III
Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR787
External Amplifier: Mcintosh MC2205 (200 Watts/2 channel hooked up to Mozarts)

I've owned most of this system for over 10 years, which I feel makes me kind of a Vienna Acoustics old-timer here. I've been through 3 TVs, a half dozen gaming systems, and multiple connection changes during that time (component, dvi, hdmi, hmdi, etc) ....but...I'm still in love with my VA speakers!

It's time to do some upgrades, which will include a new receiver and two more speakers now, and a 2nd sub later on. Although they weren't when I bought them, my VA are apparently now considered 'Classics'. I love the seamless sound envelop that these speakers create, and would hate to lose it by adding two speakers that didn't match the rest so well. At first I was considering buying a new pair of Waltz or Haydn Grands to make 7.1 Then I realized that for the same price, I could buy some used Beethoven 'Classics'. I think this would maintain the timbre matching of all the speakers and allow me to upgrade my mains to the Beethovens (and save $).

Anyone have any advice...or opinions on mixing the Classic and Grand lines? Am I crazy for not considering adding Beethoven CG for my mains? My listening room is about 18' x 22', so I think the Beethovens would fit. I'm about 70% HT and 30% Music use. Hope I didn't leave anything important out.

Thanks.
Apollo
post #2463 of 3008
Quote:
Originally Posted by tweakinaddy View Post
The Vienna schonberg were the first speakers that ever really spoke to me. I finally have the means to afford them, but cannot find anywhere. I live in the south, does anyone know of any retailers in this part of the country that carry them?
Hi,

Why don't you send me an email to pb@vienna-acoustics.net and I can help you find a local retailer.

Best wishes,

Patrick Butler
Vienna Acoustics- North America
post #2464 of 3008
Hi All
New member here but would appreciate some opinions here about an issue I'm having. I currently own a pair of Vienna Mozart Classics powered by a Primare I30 integrated and play CD's on the Primare CD21. Love the sound. Very warm, clean and clear. Absolutely to my liking.
Hoping to step up overall sound quality, I decided to go with separates in my other set up in the basement and upgraded everything but stayed with Primare so I got a Pre30, A30.2Amp and the CD31 player with a new pair of Vienna Baby Grands in Piano black. They are actally a demo pair with less than 100 hours on them.
Upon flipping the switch and listening to some of my favorite CD's, I noticed better midrange and a wider soundstage. Granted, both rooms are approx the same size. The basement has a lower ceiling and the listening area is a bit more closed in. What I have experienced not much to my liking is kind of a sloppy or loose bass. Seems like its pounding all over and grainy, almost annoying highs. The listening distance and speaker placement is almost identical to the Mozart in measurement but I've placed the BG's further away from the wall and spaced them further apart then the Mozart is from the upstairs set up.
My question to anyone here is this to expected of the BG? Are the Baby Grands that much more brighter? Will this "brightness" eventually work itself out? I love the look and feel of the BG in Piano black and really don't want to give them up but something seems to be lacking or over producing.
I have yet to play switcheroo with the speakers but will let the BG break in a littlle more before I do and see how the Mozarts compare downstairs since I've only had the BG's a few days now.
I'd appreciate it if anyone could elaborate about similar experiences and opinions on how to handle it. Speakers and cables are new, the CD31, Pre30 and A30.2 are all used and broken in already.
Thanks in advance.
post #2465 of 3008
Hi Primare,

Sounds like two great systems that you have put together. I have quite a bit of experience with Vienna Acoustics and Primare having distributed both brands in the past and Vienna Acoustics in the present. Beethoven Baby Grands are more open through the mid-band and have both tighter and more extended bass than Mozart Grand. The I30 is a wonderful integrated, and the Pre30/A30.2 combo builds on the strengths of the I30 while offering greater headroom. What you are hearing are two very different listening spaces.

Concrete or cinder block walls in basements have a way of really reinforcing low end bass. Additionally, they are quite reflective which tends to make the upper mid-range grainy or shouty sounding. Your living room system benefits from a superior sounding room in comparison to your basement. There are many things you can do to your basement that will improve the sound without breaking the bank. For one, you should have a thick area rug on the floor between the speakers and where you listen. The larger, the better. Second, you should break up the reflectivity of your walls with soft furniture in the space, book cases (full of books or lps) or more rugs. Bass- try moving your speakers further away from the rear and side walls. You might need to install some bass traps to passively equalize the amount of bass reinforcement in the basement by rolling up some futons and placing them in the corners behind the speakers.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Best wishes,

Patrick Butler
Vienna Acoustics- North America


Quote:
Originally Posted by Primare View Post

Hi All
New member here but would appreciate some opinions here about an issue I'm having. I currently own a pair of Vienna Mozart Classics powered by a Primare I30 integrated and play CD's on the Primare CD21. Love the sound. Very warm, clean and clear. Absolutely to my liking.
Hoping to step up overall sound quality, I decided to go with separates in my other set up in the basement and upgraded everything but stayed with Primare so I got a Pre30, A30.2Amp and the CD31 player with a new pair of Vienna Baby Grands in Piano black. They are actally a demo pair with less than 100 hours on them.
Upon flipping the switch and listening to some of my favorite CD's, I noticed better midrange and a wider soundstage. Granted, both rooms are approx the same size. The basement has a lower ceiling and the listening area is a bit more closed in. What I have experienced not much to my liking is kind of a sloppy or loose bass. Seems like its pounding all over and grainy, almost annoying highs. The listening distance and speaker placement is almost identical to the Mozart in measurement but I've placed the BG's further away from the wall and spaced them further apart then the Mozart is from the upstairs set up.
My question to anyone here is this to expected of the BG? Are the Baby Grands that much more brighter? Will this "brightness" eventually work itself out? I love the look and feel of the BG in Piano black and really don't want to give them up but something seems to be lacking or over producing.
I have yet to play switcheroo with the speakers but will let the BG break in a littlle more before I do and see how the Mozarts compare downstairs since I've only had the BG's a few days now.
I'd appreciate it if anyone could elaborate about similar experiences and opinions on how to handle it. Speakers and cables are new, the CD31, Pre30 and A30.2 are all used and broken in already.
Thanks in advance.
post #2466 of 3008
I have an ONKYO 3008 with Audyssey XT32 speaker set-up. I'm looking for recommendations on optimally configuring one REL Q201E subbass woofer with 2 Mozart Grands as L&R, Maestro Grand as C, 2 Mozart classics as SurrL&SurrR, and 2 Waltz Grands as BackL, BackR.

Suggestions as to crossover, and surround/back speaker preferences [switch the Mozart Classics and Waltzs?] would be very much appreciated.

With my current 5.1 set-up [Audyssey XT32 using the Waltz's as surrounds, without the Classics], the center channel sounds a little thin and the bass a little light.

Overall, I'd like some good guidelines on using Audyssey with Viennas and with REL, and, of course, any tidbits of advice that anyone can provide.

Cheers,
Kurt
post #2467 of 3008
Hi Kurt,

In short, I would run the Mozart Grands, Maestro Grand and Mozart Classics as full range speakers and cross the Waltz as small using a 70 hz crossover setting. You might even try 60 hz depending on what sounds better.

Now the longer version. First off the 4 ohm mode. Unless they have changed something, don't bother using it. It reduces the amount of power being sent to the speakers as a way of generating less heat in the receiver. Sound suffers. Instead, give your receiver adequate ventilation and you will not have issues within reason.

Audyssey. The first time I used an Audyssey system was in a Marantz pre/pro 4 years ago. I did the complete calibration suite 5 times, each time using a microphone tree in the exact same 5 seating positions. Each complete calibration gave me totally different results compared to the other complete calibrations. We're talking deviations of +/- 6 db and +/- 4 ft. In other words, not even in the ball park. Better than guessing? Maybe.

My advice? Get the speakers sounding as good as you can for music, and then and only then use the eq side of Audyssey. That can work quite well below 300hz. As far as the volume and position settings, use a tape measure and your ears. If the main speakers are setup as a proper stereo pair, use only whole numbers when inputting their distance from you. For channel volume, set the mains to 0db because they are now your reference. Raise or lower the sides as a pair, rears as a pair and center as a mono source. Rears typically end up being a little hotter than the mains (+.5db to +3db) and the center maybe down a touch. Raise the center too high and the front soundstage will collapse. Listen and experiment.

Surround and surround back speakers. I would use your Mozart Classics as your surrounds and Waltz as surround back. Most Blu Ray and DVD sources only have 5.1 discrete channels. The information in the 6th and 7th is created by the receiver, but do not actually exist in the mix. Placement. Having done lots of experiments, I would recommend placing your Surround speakers behind you like a stereo pair would be placed in front of you. Go slightly wider than you usually would with a stereo pair. Experimenting with toe in and out will effect your ability to localise them. Waltzs get used as Surround Backs, but actually are placed on the sides of the room. They provide fill that better connects the rear of the room to the front soundstage.

Best wishes,

Patrick Butler
Vienna Acoustics- North America.



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Originally Posted by kws53 View Post

I have an ONKYO 3008 with Audyssey XT32 speaker set-up. I'm looking for recommendations on optimally configuring one REL Q201E subbass woofer with 2 Mozart Grands as L&R, Maestro Grand as C, 2 Mozart classics as SurrL&SurrR, and 2 Waltz Grands as BackL, BackR
Suggestions as to crossover, and surround/back speaker preferences [switch the Mozart Classics and Waltzs?] would be very much appreciated.

With my current 5.1 set-up [Audyssey XT32 using the Waltz's as surrounds, without the Classics], the center channel sounds a little thin and the bass a little light.

Overall, I'd like some good guidelines on using Audyssey with Viennas and with REL, and, of course, any tidbits of advice that anyone can provide.

Cheers,
Kurt
post #2468 of 3008
Patrick,

I have a similar setup as Kurt. I'm using Mozarts as surrounds and Haydns as rear surrounds.

In the setups you've done with the Mozarts as a stereo pair behind the listening position and the Waltz/Haydns along the sides, do you use the Audyssey DSX listening mode and set the Waltz/Haydns to width channels or leave them set as rear surrounds?

Thanks
Apollo
post #2469 of 3008
Hello All,
I finally have a completed 7.1 VA speakers, powered by a Yamaha A2000.
2 Mozart Grands as front
1 Maestro Grand as center
2 Haydn Grand as surround side (L & R)
2 Waltz Grand as surround back
1 REL sub

Is that the right way to place the speakers?

I used the YPAO Automatic System Calibration mic that came with the yamaha receiver to setup the sound, but somehow I still feel like the music is too warm.

What would be your recommendation, in term of speakers placement and sound settings?
post #2470 of 3008
Hi Apollo,

I don't have any experience with the DSX listening mode. However, I would use the Waltz/Haydn as rear surrounds. Let me know what you think of them as width channels if you try.

Patrick

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Originally Posted by apollo7777 View Post

Patrick,

I have a similar setup as Kurt. I'm using Mozarts as surrounds and Haydns as rear surrounds.

In the setups you've done with the Mozarts as a stereo pair behind the listening position and the Waltz/Haydns along the sides, do you use the Audyssey DSX listening mode and set the Waltz/Haydns to width channels or leave them set as rear surrounds?

Thanks
Apollo
post #2471 of 3008
You've got the use of the speakers right. As for any automatic modes in receivers, I'd try the system with and without first. My own experience is that if the physical placement of the speakers is horrible, the automatic calibrations can make them suck less. When someone hears an automatic process that is really the cat's meow, please call me.

Cheers,

Patrick


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Originally Posted by sqa4life View Post

Hello All,
I finally have a completed 7.1 VA speakers, powered by a Yamaha A2000.
2 Mozart Grands as front
1 Maestro Grand as center
2 Haydn Grand as surround side (L & R)
2 Waltz Grand as surround back
1 REL sub

Is that the right way to place the speakers?

I used the YPAO Automatic System Calibration mic that came with the yamaha receiver to setup the sound, but somehow I still feel like the music is too warm.

What would be your recommendation, in term of speakers placement and sound settings?
post #2472 of 3008
any one using REL R-205 im looking for a new subwoofer for my Vienna setup i nerrow down to REL -R205 that i can get for $700 locally and dynmo 700 or SVS SB12-NSD with are bot at $700. Im looking for more of a musical sub but at the same time decent for Home Theater . I was reading little about R-205 and i think it might be little too small and it doesn't have enough output for a HT .

any advice would be appreciated
post #2473 of 3008
here is a link to the orginal thread link
post #2474 of 3008
Upgraded from a pair of Bach Grands to Mozart Grands on an impulse, and I have to say the improvement in bass is astonishing. Literally from zero or little bass to "certainly dont need a subwoofer for music". Soundstage is phenomenal too. I hate to say it, the bachs were a little bit of a letdown. Vocals and details were great but the punch in the music used to be completely lacking. I was worried it was my open room (and that still may be the case) but the Mozarts overcome any such obstacles with aplomb.
Now if anybody wants to buy my pair of Bachs pm me.
post #2475 of 3008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Butler View Post

Hi Apollo,

I don't have any experience with the DSX listening mode. However, I would use the Waltz/Haydn as rear surrounds. Let me know what you think of them as width channels if you try.

Patrick


I tried out the Haydns as width speakers. I wrote up a bit of a comparison between width and rear surrounds, from my experience.

When I decided to move from a 5.1 to a 7.1 Vienna system, I had no idea there were going to be so many options for configuration. I spent a couple weeks testing various speaker configurations. My system consists of 2 Beethovens, 1 Maestro, 2 Mozarts, 2 Haydns, and 1 REL sub. For amplification I'm using a 2 channel McIntosh and an Emotiva XPA-5. My processor is a Marantz AV7005. Test material was a lot of Blu Ray movies. (I did not try with music since I listen to music in stereo.) I experimented with approximately 6 different configurations for the Mozarts and Haydns in the rear 4 channels. The Beethovens and Maestro remained constant for all arrangements. For simplicity, I'll just describe my two favorite configurations:

1) 7.1 Standard
2) 7.1 Front Wide

See the following link for DTS' graphical depictions of each: (sorry, I'm not allowed to post the link)

I uploaded some pics of my system in each configuration.

1) In the Standard 7.1 setup, the rear surrounds provide ambient sounds with occasional directional sound effects. While the rear surrounds are generally more subtle, I find them to add a lot of value to the HT experience. They greatly enhance the illusion of being immersed in a movie that I just don't feel without them.

2) Front Wide:

Setup consisted of more than just speaker placement. The AV7005 has separate inputs on the rear panel for width speakers. They also need to be assigned to front wide via the menu system, and during use an Audyssey DSX mode needs to be selected to engage the width speakers. I could turn the width speakers on/off with the push of a button for comparison. Prior to listening, I had concerns about using a "listening mode" instead of the pure DTS or Dolby audio tracks. I was also concerned about whether placing Haydns next to Beethovens, would detract from the performance of the Beethovens. My concerns vanished as soon as I started listening. With the Haydn's as width speakers, the front soundstage was expanded in a natural and effective way. Sound effects had much better localization to the sides, and panning sound effects blended seamlessly with the Beethovens. They weren't just used for side sound effects either. They also enhanced effects coming from the front. For example, in one scene, the flash bulb from a camera fired and the width speakers were utilized to greatly enhance the effect of the flash. Overall, I would describe the 7.1 Front Wide setup like a 5.1 system on steroids.

I should say that I'm typically not a fan of listening modes, which frequently change the sound from the originalsometimes in awkward ways. I didn't get that feeling when using the DSX mode. It just sounded like I was listening to an improved DTS HD Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD track. I checked the Audyssey website and it says their DSX mode does not alter the signal sent to the front 3 channels. It uses the front and surround channels to create the width channels, and modifies the signal to the surrounds to blend everything together properly. I was pleasantly surprised with the overall effect.

Negatives included: having to move the Haydns out of the way when not in use (due to placement in my room), and living with the awareness of an audio "blind-spot" in my HT once I took them out. While the width channels made action sequences really come to life, I found myself missing the sense of immersion that the rear surrounds add. While not as active as the front wides, the rear surrounds add a unique quality to the surround sound experience that just wasn't captured in any 7.1 configuration I tried without them.

The bottom line is that, after having spent time with both rear surrounds and front wides, I found they each add to the surround sound experience in different ways. For me, the best solution would be a 9 channel system that uses them both. Unfortunately, the AV7005 supports rear surrounds and widths, but only 7 channels simultaneously. So, until I upgrade my processor again, I have to chose between them. It's a close call, but I'm going with rear surrounds for now.

Apollo
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post #2476 of 3008
Quote:
Originally Posted by dabbu1 View Post

Upgraded from a pair of Bach Grands to Mozart Grands on an impulse, and I have to say the improvement in bass is astonishing. Literally from zero or little bass to "certainly dont need a subwoofer for music". Soundstage is phenomenal too. I hate to say it, the bachs were a little bit of a letdown. Vocals and details were great but the punch in the music used to be completely lacking. I was worried it was my open room (and that still may be the case) but the Mozarts overcome any such obstacles with aplomb.
Now if anybody wants to buy my pair of Bachs pm me.

Dabbu1,

I recently had a similar experience, in upgrading from Mozarts to Beethovens. The Mozarts are great speakers. I found them a challenge to get focused properly, but when they are, they are amazing. The Beethoven's seem to be much more forgiving as far as placement goes. I'm going to disagree with the lack of need for a sub, however. Even with the Beethovens I use a REL Storm III while listening to music. The REL just expands the low range of the Beethovens. Give a REL a listen and see what you think.

Regarding your Bachs. I don't know if you have a dedicated music room or home theater, but if you have a home theater, might I suggest you keep the Bachs and use them as your surrounds. I moved my Mozarts to surrounds, and admittedly felt guilty about "demoting" them at first. After watching a few movies though, I've been absolutely astounded. I'd heard about movie soundtracks sending full-range signals to all 5 channels, but hadn't experienced a home theater with full-range speakers all around. I wouldn't go back now. Just throwing out some ideas. Enjoy your system!
post #2477 of 3008
I was impressed by the B&W PM1 when I heard them at the local dealer.
So I decided to take my Haydn Grands to the same store and listen to them side by side. The dealer agreed to have me bring in my speakers for comparison. Also took a friend along who happens to be a retired music professor.

Long story short... to our (not so golden) ears, the differences were negligible. I thought the PM1 had a very slightly smoother top end (higher frequencies)... but my friend thought the Haydn Grands had a better top end. He also pointed out that some of the instruments appeared a bit more forward with the Haydn Grand. Both were driven by a $1900 Peachtree Audio iNova integrated amp. The bottom end appeared identical.. but I use a sub anyway so it didn't matter much to me. At home i use drive them with a Denon 3311ci.

My conclusion.. Similar sound ... PM1s had a smaller form factor and slicker finish. Haydn Grands were much less expensive. In the end, I had a deeper appreciation for the HG pair I owned. I went there thinking the PM1 would really outshine the HG.

I sort of felt that getting significant improvements in sound from speakers (like what i heard when upgrading from Aperion 532 bookshelves to HG) ... were not worth pursuing.
post #2478 of 3008
Hi all,

I remember a Sumiko rep posted on this thread a suggested placement for Mozart Grand speakers for stereo listening. I've been searching for that post for a few hours but couldn't find it. Could somebody help?

Thank you,
Leo

Found it. Here for those who may need it:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=308
post #2479 of 3008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foreverandone View Post

Hi all,

I remember a Sumiko rep posted on this thread a suggested placement for Mozart Grand speakers for stereo listening. I've been searching for that post for a few hours but couldn't find it. Could somebody help?

Thank you,
Leo

Found it. Here for those who may need it:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=308

see post 308 by David Carr
post #2480 of 3008
Updating from a couple months back. After the BCG's had broken in for about a month, the sales rep came back to the house and spent another 2 1/2 hours with a level, tape measure, and sound level meter again to dial them in. They are now perfectly placed, and for the first time, I'm using the sub with just stereo. Crossover is set at 40 Hz. and it works quite well. But after the break in, I was very pleasantly surprised at just how much bass these are capable of. The Sheffield Labs Drum Test cd showed that off quite well. Really enjoying the whole setup. Pictures below. Right speaker without grill, although I am using them with grill on. Please ignore cat toys in third photo.
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post #2481 of 3008
Hello all:

Does anyone know if any of the drivers in the Theatro were used in the Beethoven classics. Thanks in advance for any help.

Gene
post #2482 of 3008
I have a VA Grand Mozart Grand for the Mains L/R & Center channel Theatro.
Its a 3.0 setup. VA Mozart Grand are 4 ohms & Theatro is 6 Ohms. I have a Sony LED 3D TV. I need help in finding the right 4ohm receiver for these speakers & also use my 3d capability of my TV & DISH Cablebox.

I learnt Denon 4311ci can handle 4 Ohms speakers and Onkyo & Sony (some of the 1000$ models can handle 4 ohms). Im not a big fan of Onkyo & Sony sound.

I had Harman kardon AVR3600 for 9 months with these speakers & it got broken. Then I tried Denon 4311ci, but when receiver is switched off for 2 + hrs & turned on the audio doesnt come out of the speakers for 30+ mins. I dont know if it was fault with that particular Denon.

Please suggest right 4ohm receiver for my speakers.. Also should I use 4ohm/6ohm reicever since 2 of the speakers are 4ohms & center channel is 6 ohms.
post #2483 of 3008
looking for solid amps for my new Haydn Grand. Any recommendations? Target price no more that $1500

I've bought a 2nd hand Naim Nait XS but does not satisfied with it.
post #2484 of 3008
Hi Saravan,

The Denon 4311CI does a great job running a Mozart Grand based theater system. For that matter, I used a Sony ES receiver in Austria recently driving a Beethoven Baby Grand theater system and it totally blew away my expectations for what a mainstream Japanese receiver manufacturer can do. I am told that the voicing for the European ES products and those sold in North America is different.

Driving a 4 ohm load will create more heat. Ventilate your electronics properly (cable boxes generate the most heat) and you will enjoy years of good performance.

Best,

Patrick Butler
Vienna Acoustics- North America

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Originally Posted by saravan View Post

I have a VA Grand Mozart Grand for the Mains L/R & Center channel Theatro.
Its a 3.0 setup. VA Mozart Grand are 4 ohms & Theatro is 6 Ohms. I have a Sony LED 3D TV. I need help in finding the right 4ohm receiver for these speakers & also use my 3d capability of my TV & DISH Cablebox.

I learnt Denon 4311ci can handle 4 Ohms speakers and Onkyo & Sony (some of the 1000$ models can handle 4 ohms). Im not a big fan of Onkyo & Sony sound.

I had Harman kardon AVR3600 for 9 months with these speakers & it got broken. Then I tried Denon 4311ci, but when receiver is switched off for 2 + hrs & turned on the audio doesnt come out of the speakers for 30+ mins. I dont know if it was fault with that particular Denon.

Please suggest right 4ohm receiver for my speakers.. Also should I use 4ohm/6ohm reicever since 2 of the speakers are 4ohms & center channel is 6 ohms.
post #2485 of 3008
Hi 850t,

Naim is great gear - sorry its not working out for you.

As a VA owner too, I can comment on what I use - Parasound. If you are not locked into an integrated and have the space for separates, consider the Parasound 2125 (125 wpc 8 ohm, 200 wpc 4 ohm, 35 amps current) amp and 2100 pre-amp. They can be had brand new for under $1500 for the pair. I drive my Bach Grands with a 5125 (same specs as above, only 5 channel) and am extremely pleased. Plenty of power and cool running - makes the Bachs sound awesome too. If you want to move up the Parasound ladder, consider the Halo A-23 amp (125 wpc into 8, 200 wpc into 4 but Class A/AB and 45 amps current) and Halo P3 pre-amp. the pair is $1800 new but every now and then you can find refurbs/demos at Audio Advisor at around your target $1500.

If you need to stick with an integrated, consider the NAD C375BEE or the Music Fidelity M3i. I have heard good things about both and they should get the job done with your Hadyns.

Good luck and happy listening.
post #2486 of 3008
Any idea where can I get a single Mozart grand floor speaker an may i ask how much it cost
post #2487 of 3008
Quote:
Originally Posted by indianguyinny24 View Post

Any idea where can I get a single Mozart grand floor speaker an may i ask how much it cost


I have not the foggiest idea, although I'll look around for you. Maybe one of my dealers has an orphan. What finish?

Best wishes,

Patrick
Vienna Acoustics- North America.
post #2488 of 3008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Butler View Post

I have not the foggiest idea, although I'll look around for you. Maybe one of my dealers has an orphan. What finish?

Best wishes,

Patrick
Vienna Acoustics- North America.

Thanks for quick help...Black please...i got a real cheap MOZART single piece...after becoming fan of Wlatz grand...also any suggestion on the centre channel speaker...

PS: Never mind didnt won the bid...some one else was lucky...
post #2489 of 3008
Somehow, in all my time spent here researching new amps, I missed this section!!!

I purchased my VA speaker collection in 2005, which consists of:

Bach Grand fronts
Maestro Grand center
Walt Grand rears

Like many, I enjoy the open and warm tones of the VA speakers. And they don't do a bad job with 5.1 channel movies, either! I was reminded a while back of how much bass the Bach Grands can move. My Elemental Designs A5-350 sub amp was in for repair and I was listening to 2.1 ch music (without the .1 of course) and was amazed at what I was hearing.

In any event, I truly do enjoy my VA speakers.

As far as a center channel recommendation, indianguyiny24, you really can't go wrong with the Maestro Grand. I've seen folks use the Waltz Grand as a center channel as well. But in my experience, the Maestro is so focused and spot on as a center channel speaker that I would not consider going to something else.

I would like to get another Maestro but I'm not sure how side by side center channels would sound...
post #2490 of 3008
Hi All, just came across Vienna Acoustic's looking at some of the Xmas sales that are happening in the UK which caused me to scour the net doing some research - must say I struggled to come across a negative post....it certainly looks like a fantastic brand that I'm almost at the point of buying without having heard (I know - generally considered a huge mistake in audio circles)

Looking at the Bach Grand's (top of my budget - as some context I'm from South Africa and looks like I'll have to bring in after reading your posts ......will set me back a fair amount but with the xmas sales will fall between B&W 684's and Martin Logan Motion 12's). I don't however see much on the net regarding the abuse these speakers can take - not looking at 18 - 20 year old thrashes or anything like that, besides way past it, but on the odd occasion can they be cranked up a little (wife likes female vocal, jazz, blues; I'm more rock biased if it matters)? Or should I be looking at something a little more resilient?

I'm still stunned by the positive sentiments posted all over the net - must be a fantastic brand to work for!

Thanks, any views appreciated
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