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post #2761 of 2863
1/13/13 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by Saril View Post

So the XPA-5 for the Mozarts and Maestro is good for the amp choice then in your opinion? Thanks for your reply.

I've used several Emotiva amps with my VA's over the years. I was never disappointed and found them to be a great match with each other. I most recently used an XPA-3 in my system, so I'm sure you would sincerely enjoy the performance with the XPA-5. Good luck with your search.
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post #2762 of 2863
1/14/13 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by Saril View Post

So the XPA-5 for the Mozarts and Maestro is good for the amp choice then in your opinion? Thanks for your reply.

While I cannot personally attest to the XPA-5, for the past few years I have been powering Concert Grands and a Maestro exclusively with an XPA-3. I also use a UPA-7 to power 4 surround Waltz channels (I have 2 more Waltz speakers in a box waiting to be added). This combination is phenomenal, and a great value as well.

Given that the XPA-3 and XPA-5 both produce 300wpc into 4ohm speakers, I cannot imagine there being any quality difference whatsoever. My advice depends on how many channels and what purpose they will have in your system. For example, if you are going to do 5.1 for strictly home theater, get the XPA-5. If you will do a combination of music and movies, get an XPA-2 and an XPA-3. Either way, you cannot go wrong with Emotiva; they have been in my system almost 5 years and still going strong.
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post #2763 of 2863
1/14/13 at 6:57pm
Thanks all - great to hear positive comments on Emotiva with VAs. Very helpful - I have enough trouble deciding on speakers let alone amps.
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post #2764 of 2863
1/14/13 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by Saril View Post

Thanks all - great to hear positive comments on Emotiva with VAs. Very helpful - I have enough trouble deciding on speakers let alone amps.

Love Emotiva. I'm running Schonberg's (same drivers as Mozart Grands in a different enclosure) with a UPA-2 and it's great. I think the Vienna's can benefit from more power (AKA, the XPA series), but I really can't complain at all, and it's a major improvement over using the amps in my receiver.
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post #2765 of 2863
1/16/13 at 3:50am
Looks like the any of the XPAs, 2, 3, or 5 would be a very suitable amp for the Mozarts. Thanks all!
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post #2766 of 2863
1/16/13 at 6:43am
Now running my Mozart Grand SEs with the Arcam AVR400 Receiver. So far I am impressed with this one box solution. Time will tell more as the receiver breaks in.
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post #2767 of 2863
1/16/13 at 6:54am
Congrats on getting the Arcam AVR400 gprace. Good to know your initial impressions are favorable. As time goes by, let us know how it is performing as I am sure many others may be interested in finding a suitable AVR to drive a full set of 5 VA's too. Looks like you may have found one that is up to the task.
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post #2768 of 2863
1/16/13 at 8:07am
Are there any VA owners running a 9.2 or 11.2 system? If so, which processor/AVR are you using? I'm looking to go to the Denon 4520 or the upcoming Integra 80.4.
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post #2769 of 2863
1/17/13 at 11:29am
Hi,
I just purchased a pair of Baby Grands. I will be running them through my Rotel RMB 1095 (5.1, 200W per channel) and into a Marantz AV 8003. I have a maestro center and I am moving my Mozart's to the rear. I also have a REL B2 in the front corner, and a REL T3 in the back opposite corner. I am wondering if there is a sight that can give instructions on set up. I had the local stereo guys set up my Mozart's, but I am feeling unfaithful because I bought the Baby's on line used for MUCH less than I could get them from their shop.. Any help would be wonderful..

Thank you
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post #2770 of 2863
1/17/13 at 12:26pm
Do you already have a 5.2 system? If so, whats there really to set up? I assume your Mozarts were your L/R mains and will be replaced by the Baby Grands (very nice speakers BTW). If your only listening to multi-channel HT, there should be no problems. Put them in the same spot and hook them up with your existing speaker cables. Do the same with your rears as you replace whatever they were with the Mozarts. Again, use your existing cabling. Then and very important , re-run Audyssey and see how they sound. The subs should integrate with Audyssey also.

If the rears are new to your system, the manual for the Marantz processor should supply diagrams on speaker placement. Finally, if you do a lot of two channel listening too, the placement of the front REL could get a little tricky. But REL provides a very detailed, easy to understand manual on set up. Just follow it and be prepared to spend a few hours finding the optimum spot for it. Its best to have someone assist you as you make minute adjustments to the REL's position while you listen to a track with a steady bassline. Took me a couple of hours experimenting with my REL T-1's location in order to find the optimum spot. But it was fun! Hope this helps.
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post #2771 of 2863
1/17/13 at 12:42pm
Thank you very much..
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post #2772 of 2863
1/17/13 at 12:46pm
I have the 5.2 system. I will replace Focal 700 series with the Mozart's in back. The B2 is a beast and was just right for my room with the Mozart's in front. Sounds like I need to get my manuals out. Thanks again..
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post #2773 of 2863
1/18/13 at 8:31am
Anyone know anything about the Imperial Grand line? These look magnificent!

http://www.stereophile.com/content/vienna-acoustics-imperial-grand-speaker
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post #2774 of 2863
1/18/13 at 8:32am
To add to the post above, I came across the formal announcement at CES last week.

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/the-2013-consumer-electronics-show-neil-gader-on-loudspeakers-under-20k/
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post #2775 of 2863
1/18/13 at 11:34am
That Imperial Grand looks interesting.
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post #2776 of 2863
1/20/13 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by SergeantYnot View Post

To add to the post above, I came across the formal announcement at CES last week.

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/the-2013-consumer-electronics-show-neil-gader-on-loudspeakers-under-20k/

I haven't heard about this until now. Very interesting indeed! cool.gif
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post #2777 of 2863
1/21/13 at 6:16am
....as the saying goes.....










My Mozarts are still going strong, wonderful speakers!































Regards
RoDa
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post #2778 of 2863
1/21/13 at 8:39am
I just noticed that my tweeter may be blown in one of my Waltz surrounds. Anyone have any experience with VA customer service and the warranty process?
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post #2779 of 2863
1/21/13 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by RoDa View Post

....as the saying goes.....

My Mozarts are still going strong, wonderful speakers!



Regards
RoDa

Very nice. I love the dedicated space! Thanks for sharing cool.gif
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post #2780 of 2863
1/21/13 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by RoDa View Post

....as the saying goes.....

My Mozarts are still going strong, wonderful speakers!

Regards
RoDa

I use your photos to "show-off" the Mozarts to my wife. Very clean elegant room. Thanks for posting. Btw- I miss the cool guitar you had on the table.
Edited by Saril - 1/21/13 at 11:26am
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post #2781 of 2863
1/22/13 at 5:08am
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Originally Posted by Saril View Post

I use your photos to "show-off" the Mozarts to my wife. Very clean elegant room. Thanks for posting. Btw- I miss the cool guitar you had on the table.

Thanks!

The guitars are back, just temporarily removed for the "super minimalistic" look smile.gif







Regarding wives and Viennas, mine got to choose the finish on them so we are both happy! LOL
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post #2782 of 2863
1/26/13 at 4:08pm
That Les Paul is such a great piece. RoDa, your Mozart's are absolutely beautiful! I keep vacillating between the black and cherry finish. Your pictures make the cherry a compelling choice. My wife loves the cherry finish in your room. Thanks again for sharing your pictures.
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post #2783 of 2863
1/27/13 at 11:04am
Hi guys, I have a chance to buy a pair of Vienna Acoustic Beethoven speakers. I'm not sure on the year they were made, but it is approximately 2003 or 2004. I can't really find the specs online other than their site which is the current model. Does anyone know much about these speakers? I know they are reviewed very well.
Thanks,
John.
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post #2784 of 2863
1/27/13 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Hi guys, I have a chance to buy a pair of Vienna Acoustic Beethoven speakers. I'm not sure on the year they were made, but it is approximately 2003 or 2004. I can't really find the specs online other than their site which is the current model. Does anyone know much about these speakers? I know they are reviewed very well.
Thanks,
John.

I owned a pair of these some years back. I loved them, but I think the Grands are significantly better. The sound signature is similar to the newer series. The newer series are also more expensive, so if you can make a good deal on the Beethoven you should consider it.

I have attached a scan of the original Vienna Acoustics Beethoven marketing sheet. It contains the vital stats.
Vienna Acoustics Beethoven spec sheet.PDF 888k .PDF file
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post #2785 of 2863
1/27/13 at 6:42pm
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Originally Posted by NORLL View Post

I owned a pair of these some years back. I loved them, but I think the Grands are significantly better. The sound signature is similar to the newer series. The newer series are also more expensive, so if you can make a good deal on the Beethoven you should consider it.

I have attached a scan of the original Vienna Acoustics Beethoven marketing sheet. It contains the vital stats.
Vienna Acoustics Beethoven spec sheet.PDF 888k .PDF file


Great and thanks for the info.
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post #2786 of 2863
1/28/13 at 8:27pm
Hello fellow VA owners... I am considering getting some dedicated power for my Set up but I'm not familiar with dedicated power and what price range I'd need to look in and where to even begin

My equipment

- marantz Sr6004
- 2 Vienna Acoustics Haydn Grand bookshelf speakers.

The speakers being 4 ohms require a lot of power and I'm not sure the Marantz I have really allows them to shine. I'm not really familiar with dedicated power and have no idea where to begin my research, can anyone give some guided assistance?
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post #2787 of 2863
1/29/13 at 8:07am
As a fellow VA owner, welcome. Your Haydn Grands are very similar to my Bach Grands, 4 ohm speakers and just a little less sensitive. As such, a good dose of high current clean power will get them singing the way they should. So I would definitely recommend a separate 2 channel amp be dedicated to driving them using the L/R preouts on your Marantz. This will free up your Marantz AVR for other speaker duties too, if you have them.

I drive my Bachs with a Parasound 5125 power amp. It is a 5 channel model putting out 125 wpc into 8 ohm, 185 wpc in 4 ohm. It will drive 5 speakers to just about any volume I want without breaking a sweat. Parasound makes a 2 channel model, the 2125, with identical specs for someone only wanting a separate amp for the front two channels, like in your case. I would recommend this model to you without hesitation. Around $775 new; less if you shop smart. Since we do not know your budget, Parasound also makes their HALO line of premium but higher priced amps.

The above specs are typical of what you would want for your Haydns. It doesn't have to be Parasound. Emotiva puts out a great line of value priced amps with impressive specs to get the job done with Viennas. Again, just stay around no less than 100 wpc CONTINUOUS, both channels driven power into 8 ohm. Even though VA's are 4 Ohm speakers, just about all amps are rated into 8 ohms first, that is why I am using the 100 wpc into 8 ohm as a benchmark. The 4 ohm figure will usual follow and always be higher. With separate power amp, the wpc rating will usually be CONTINUOUS, unlike the confusing ratings of a lot of AVR's. In other words, you can assured of proper power when using a separate power amp.

Besides Parasound and Emotiva, there are many other brands that will get the job done too. Brands like NAD and Rotel. Other names escape me at the moment. Finally, the technology of a good Class A/B power amp has changed little over the years. Even a good, well kept used amp will work too. So check out some of the used models being offered on Ebay, audiogon.com and usaudiomart.com. This will also familarize you with all the other models available. Good luck in your search.
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post #2788 of 2863
1/29/13 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by Paraneer View Post

As a fellow VA owner, welcome. Your Haydn Grands are very similar to my Bach Grands, 4 ohm speakers and just a little less sensitive. As such, a good dose of high current clean power will get them singing the way they should. So I would definitely recommend a separate 2 channel amp be dedicated to driving them using the L/R preouts on your Marantz. This will free up your Marantz AVR for other speaker duties too, if you have them.

I drive my Bachs with a Parasound 5125 power amp. It is a 5 channel model putting out 125 wpc into 8 ohm, 185 wpc in 4 ohm. It will drive 5 speakers to just about any volume I want without breaking a sweat. Parasound makes a 2 channel model, the 2125, with identical specs for someone only wanting a separate amp for the front two channels, like in your case. I would recommend this model to you without hesitation. Around $775 new; less if you shop smart. Since we do not know your budget, Parasound also makes their HALO line of premium but higher priced amps.

The above specs are typical of what you would want for your Haydns. It doesn't have to be Parasound. Emotiva puts out a great line of value priced amps with impressive specs to get the job done with Viennas. Again, just stay around no less than 100 wpc CONTINUOUS, both channels driven power into 8 ohm. Even though VA's are 4 Ohm speakers, just about all amps are rated into 8 ohms first, that is why I am using the 100 wpc into 8 ohm as a benchmark. The 4 ohm figure will usual follow and always be higher. With separate power amp, the wpc rating will usually be CONTINUOUS, unlike the confusing ratings of a lot of AVR's. In other words, you can assured of proper power when using a separate power amp.

Besides Parasound and Emotiva, there are many other brands that will get the job done too. Brands like NAD and Rotel. Other names escape me at the moment. Finally, the technology of a good Class A/B power amp has changed little over the years. Even a good, well kept used amp will work too. So check out some of the used models being offered on Ebay, audiogon.com and usaudiomart.com. This will also familarize you with all the other models available. Good luck in your search.

thanks for the really detailed post, I really haven't come up with a 'budget' per say as I didn't know what I needed or where to start looking. I would say my budget is pretty much the best bang for my buck. On top of this I am still looking to get a center, and maybe eventually replace the Haydn's with one of their towers! So the better the deal I get the sooner I get the next piece to my (never ending) puzzle.

I saw this Niles amp for sale at a good price on ebay http://www.nilesaudio.com/product.php?prodID=SI-275&recordID=Stereo+Power+Amplifiers&categoryID=System+Integration+Amplifiers&catcdID=4&prdcdID=FG00770 and I was wondering if anyone thinks this may be a good deal used at $180.00? The guy has it available for local pick up.

To confirm, my budget is potentially more than that it just looks like a good price.
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post #2789 of 2863
1/29/13 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by sruane287 View Post

Hello fellow VA owners... I am considering getting some dedicated power for my Set up but I'm not familiar with dedicated power and what price range I'd need to look in and where to even begin

My equipment

- marantz Sr6004
- 2 Vienna Acoustics Haydn Grand bookshelf speakers.

The speakers being 4 ohms require a lot of power and I'm not sure the Marantz I have really allows them to shine. I'm not really familiar with dedicated power and have no idea where to begin my research, can anyone give some guided assistance?

Take a look at this. On sale they are generally less than $300.

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/upa200
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post #2790 of 2863
1/29/13 at 11:17am
I agree with Sarge. Take a look at the Emotiva. Much more pwerful amp than the Niles you are looking at that is too light at 75 wpc.
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