The *OFFICIAL* Vienna Acoustics Owners Thread - Page 13

Originally Posted by Dave Carr

I have heard matching, tower based 5.1 systems on a couple of occasions and they are universally spectacular. Given that the ergonomics/logistics work, it is undoubtedly the best way to go. That being said, most multi-purpose rooms can't accommodate a system of that size. The Maestro and Waltz were created to satisfy the needs of the average room, without to great of a compromise to sound.

In your room, because of door/window configuration, wall-mounted Waltz will be better than corner-positioned Bach/Mozart. This not because the Bach/Mozart are not better speakers, which they are, but because the corner is generally an awful place to put a speaker. Speaker position will have a more dramatic impact on sound. So much so that 5 identical speakers can be made to sound completely dissimilar.

So that you understand the logic behind the design of the Maestro, spider-cone woofers were chosen to increase its dynamic/output capability while maintaining a compact, horizontal cabinet. Through careful driver/crossover tuning, Maestro is voice matched to Mozart/Baby Grand/Concert Grand.

The Waltz is even more interesting. Normally drivers are designed first, then cabinet, and then crossover. With Waltz and Schonberg series, this approach does not work because cabinet volume/dimension is essentially predetermined. To make the highest quality sound, drivers and crossovers are developed simultaneously. This is why Waltz can handle so much power, while delivering an expansive, detailed and dynamic sound, without compression.

For your dedicated system, I'd recommend bypassing 6.1 and moving directly to 7.1. The former does not really exist in the pro world any more, so any array larger than 5.1 is being done in 7.1. If this is your ultimate goal, I'd do three pairs of matching or mixed Vienna towers with the Maestro center.

Originally Posted by Fanaticalism

Thank you so much for all of the great information. I will move forward with 7.1 with dual woofers. I am going to look into the Waltz's for the surrounding speakers. If this works out for me, I will take the savings and invest and 1 more woofer

Originally Posted by Fanaticalism

30 day wait . Special order. Actually to my benefit, since I have not been able to sell my existing setup!

Originally Posted by kmckappa

I currently own the 7.1 VA Beethoven Concert Grands, Maestro Grand, 2 pairs of waltz and Rel b-2 my reciever is the pioneer VSX94TXH this receiver works great with my system.

Originally Posted by kmckappa

I currently own the 7.1 VA Beethoven Concert Grands, Maestro Grand, 2 pairs of waltz and Rel b-2 my reciever is the pioneer VSX94TXH this receiver works great with my system.

Originally Posted by SLCentral

Have you thought about adding a separate amp, even one like an Emotiva for less than $1000? I'm sure it would open up your system, especially those Beethoven's, quite a bit.

Originally Posted by thisbenjamin

Very much agree - I actually had a VSX94TXH but returned it for HDMI switching issues I had, I didn't much like how it drove my Beethoven's but to each their own. I'd defiantly consider upgrading to a dedicated amp, you can find B&K gear on the cheap due to a recent face plate change - getting a 7 channel amp wouldn't be too painful. It'd do so much to bring out the rich intensity of the speakers.

Originally Posted by Bigred7078

I've compared several B&K amps to the Emotiva's and to be honest the B&K's sound thin compared to the Emotiva ones. There are several owners of B&K stuff on Emotivalounge that sold them off in favor of the Emotiva. But everyone has their own personal taste.

Originally Posted by thisbenjamin

Thin is the last word I'd use to describe, but I will concede to a 3-4k difference in price. I was extremely nervous regarding the fact Emotiva products are made in China, but after testing the MMC-1 with their 5 channel amp, against my current gear I was relieved - I didn't much like their physical appearance, and the sound was a bit uninteresting to me - but they where cheap enough to shuffle to a relative for their home theater project. I think Emotive makes a fine product for the budget conscience, however I would not recommend pairing them with a Vienna Acoutics product, unless it was a Schönberg.

Originally Posted by umeshdhingra

I was planning to use them in a horizontal position only. That's the only reason to go for them instead of Hayden as the book shelf does not have the opening required for Hayden's in vertical position.

Originally Posted by T-3G

Would it be cost effective, though? Two Maestro Grands equals to $2,800 which is roughly equal to the price of Mozart Grands. Plus if you want bass you'll need to add a sub.

Originally Posted by TjMV3

Hello.

Could someone tell me about the Beethoven Baby Grand speakers?

How would you describe them in terms of sound?

Do they still retain that warm, smooth, emotionally engaging sound; like previous models?

Any experiences with these speakers would help.

Kind of difficult to audition them around my area.

Originally Posted by mbyrnes

I GOT THEM!!! I picked up my piano black Mozart Grands today. First impressions are, I am shocked at the sound from these small speakers. I am going from Studio Monitor Infinitys with 15" woofers (SM 152s) and the Mozarts have MUCH better bass. The detail is unreal in the mid bass and highs. After years of listening to and comparing speakers, I am so happy.

I have waited a very long time to buy speakers like this. I was thinking I should of went with the Def Tech Mythos STS waiting for these to arrive. I liked the built in amp but the mids and highs I wasn't blown away with. I'll take the clarity of the Mozarts any day of the week. I can't wait for this weekend when I can go nuts. I wanted a speaker that could handle stereo music without a sub and reproduce the music faithfully. My second guessing was for naught.

Dave Carr, I am driving these with an Onkyo 805 and I am curious if you have ever Mozarts with the 805. I am in the process of redoing the speakers and I don't have a money tree. I am trying to pickup the Waltz next and then the Maestro later. This will probably be within the next 1-2 years. Am I getting good performance from my Onkyo or should I go for a stereo amp first then upgrade the speakers? Curious if anyone with Mozarts has heard my combo.