Originally Posted by gvg45
I was a bit surprised also to hear that the turbo would not work without a rig job. I know I saw a picture of it somewhere. I thought the only 'issue' was that the turbo would be slightly wider than the 2.3?
The only problem now is what are you going to do with the 25-31 when you get the upgrade bug? I guess you can go dual 25-31's!
i emailed and dr. hsu was kind enough to reply directly. that no, it shouldn't be done. BUT, could be done by rigging it up. tubes are too wide and too short. i asked if they would ever consider just making new tubes so 2.3 and 3.2 owners could use a turbo. seems easy enough to me right? he said no it would be too expensive to manufacture different tubes. IMHO that makes NO sense. how can it be TOO expensive to make a different set of tubes that are longer and tapered at the subs end to fit the ports? HSU could have the same turbo unit but supply a different set of tubes for whatever model the customer has. how much can a tube cost to make? i mean the tubes SHOULD be replacable or interchangable right? what if you break or crack a tube? are you forced to buy a whole new turbo?
he also stated that the users manual is incorrect in stating you can add turbo to anything other than the 3.3- he did apologize for that though.
so that led ME to feel that - a lot of people are getting a 2.3 etc. with the thought that they CAN add turbo later if they want (like me), because it states in the user manual (which should be reprinted) that you can. then after ordering the turbo they find, that they as the end user, have to rig it up precariously to even make it work (who wants to drop $700 on a rig job? maybe it isnt a big deal but IMHO it is in principle), or send the turbo back. but, usually at this point- later down the road after you've had the sub for a while and decided on the upgrade- it's too late to send the sub back. so you're stuck with a sub that doesn't live up to what you thought it would be. IMO that didn't sit well. or if you really want the turbo you are forced to move up to a 3.3. that doesnt sit well either.
anyhow for the price of a 3.3 with turbo - $800. 3.3 now add turbo later- $900. 2.3 no turbo bigger footprint- $500. svs at $600 provides me with all i need plus the advantage of footprint and 22hz tuning. customer service experience and attention to detail is what really won me over too.
as far as upgrade bug who knows? clean up wiring runs? treat the room abit to cut out some outside noise- damn LA is noisy. i'm pretty satisfied right now- or will be when my sub is here. maybe time to just let it go and enjoy it for awhile. save up for a bigger LCD later this year when prices are really supposed to plummet. oh and start my bronco engine rebuild
. probably when we get a larger place yes dual 25-31's
PS- i'm not BASHING hsu- i just felt in my case they are not right for ME. SVS was. some people may find the opposite. it's a case by case thing. in this case SVS won my business.
PSS- i will say that if i felt a 10" sub woud have worked for me- av123 would have been a STRONG runner if not THE leader. they have great service and the build of their stuff is impeccable. unfortunately their 12" is way out of my $$ range - and backordered till ? and the ulw-10 IMO wouldn't work for me. the 15" i would have considered big time but again no release date.