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Where are the DD-TrueHD & DTS-HD receivers?

post #1 of 17
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Are there any currently available receivers or pre-pros that can decode any/all of the following formats: DD-Plus, DD-TrueHD, DTS-HD, DTS-HD Master Audio? I'm assuming that they would have to accept the audio signal through HDMI since I don't believe SPDIF has enough bandwidth to accommodate any of the above...

It's been awhile since I was current with everything A/V, and I'm getting back into it now with my newly acquired HD-DVD player but I can't seem to find a receiver which decodes any of these new formats. Is it still too early in the next-gen game to expect something like this?
post #2 of 17
They don't exist, and you don't need them. Your player decodes the formats. Just send the uncompressed PCM via HDMI or analogs to your receiver.
post #3 of 17
Yep, as long as the player do the conversion, all you need as a good HDMI equiped receiver to do the rest. There are many to choose from.
post #4 of 17
im getting confused again.....
can ps3 do conversion???
I know xbox 360 (hddvd) cannot as of now
what are some of the well equipped receiver


thanks
post #5 of 17
Native HD audio decoding (lossy & lose-less Dolby & DTS) being done inside the AVR is a new feature which requires new hardware and software. These AVRs will start to become available in the 2nd half of calendar 2007. Today the the HD DVD and Blu Ray player do the native HD audio decoding and send the encrypted multi-channel digital audio via HDMI. And if the AVR is HDMI 1.1 or greater compliance it should handle it fine, if not then 5.1 analog outputs or transcoded S/PDIF can be used.

Going forward as the technology matures along with the process of silicon integration while its pricing drops, then it will become common place within AVRs even down to $499 SRP.
post #6 of 17
What player can decode DTS-HD? As of right now, I am aware of none, am I mistaken
post #7 of 17
You mean DTS-HD-MA. None I think PS3 will receive that update sometime in the future.
Check it out on the Blu-ray player forum, I'm sure someone will know there.
post #8 of 17
Robert, you are correct... none. And no receivers can either Real smart planning by the BD folks, huh?
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

You mean DTS-HD-MA...

Actually he could mean both since there is no player with a DTS-HD (lossy) or DTS-HD Master (lossless) decoder yet.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by madpoet View Post

Robert, you are correct... none. And no receivers can either Real smart planning by the BD folks, huh?

The same goes for HD DVD. None of the players support DTS HD or DTS HD-MA, and they are all second generation.
post #11 of 17
What you want will exist very soon. Below is a link to the CES announcement of the Sherwood Newcastle R-97:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...7-page-12.html
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by dsmith901 View Post

What you want will exist very soon. Below is a link to the CES announcement of the Sherwood Newcastle R-97:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...7-page-12.html

If September is soon, then yes you are correct.
post #13 of 17
Onkyo TX-SR905 is due in August...
Integra version about a month later.
post #14 of 17
so if you want DD-trueHD to be played through a receiver, you have to go HDMI? no coaxial/optical?
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Andyisc00l View Post

so if you want DD-trueHD to be played through a receiver, you have to go HDMI? no coaxial/optical?

Yes.
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by Andyisc00l View Post

so if you want DD-trueHD to be played through a receiver, you have to go HDMI? no coaxial/optical?

If your connection is via coax or optical digital audio cable, the audio you will get from an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray disc is the "compatibility" or "core" audio track -- a reduced quality "bitstream" that is basically at the quality level of the best DTS tracks from standard DVDs. The "compatibility" or "core" audio track will work with just about any modern receiver.

To get the full quality of the new format audio codecs on the other hand you either need an HDMI connection or a multi-channel analog audio connection.

Here's a post from another thread that spells it out:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post9817674

--Bob
post #17 of 17
Here ya go.........The New Denons!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=801887
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