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post #1 of 71
Thread Starter 
Can anyone tell me the easiest way to convert a Sony .m2ts file into something a little more common so that I can edit it? Without losing the resolution.

Thanks,

Kyser
post #2 of 71
Thread Starter 
I've looked into it further... things don't look good at this point.
post #3 of 71
Sony Vegas 7 if you do have the bucks (it's the Pro version), Sony Vegas Movie Studio+DVD PLATINUM if you don't have the bucks.
With Vegas you get the built-in Cineform intermediate codec, which allows you to convert the .m2t clips from the HC7 into a visually lossless and easier-to-edit .avi format. (check out Cineform's website for the details).

Caveat: the pro version of Vegas comes with the Cineform codec, I'm not sure if the Movie Studio version comes with the codec, but it DOES capture, and therefore edit the .m2t files. However, the .m2t format is much less desirable to edit because it's basically an mpeg format. You WANT the Cineform codec.
Here's a thought: you can buy the Sony Home Studio PLATINUM version ($119) for capture and editing, and also buy the Cineform product standalone $199 for capture and conversion. Saves you a few dollars. (BUT FIRST, find out if the Home Studio version comes with the built-in Cineform codec.

It's too late tonight for me to find out definitively, but here's a comparison chart:

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/Pr...&FeatureID=8315

- from a Vegas/HDR-HC7 user...
post #4 of 71
Sony Vegas DOES NOT at this time convert M2TS.

In fact nothing does to this point. You have to use the supplied software that Sony gives you with the cam to convert to M2T. Ulead Movie Factory 6 is the only thing that is said to work at this point with AVCHD... and even with that, ( from what I understand anyway) it will not DIRECTLY convert a M2TS file that is on the HDD

Sony has said that it will have added AVCHD support sometime this Spring.
post #5 of 71
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by blackbill View Post

Sony Vegas DOES NOT at this time convert M2TS.

In fact nothing does to this point. You have to use the supplied software that Sony gives you with the cam to convert to M2T. Ulead Movie Factory 6 is the only thing that is said to work at this point with AVCHD... and even with that, ( from what I understand anyway) it will not DIRECTLY convert a M2TS file that is on the HDD

Sony has said that it will have added AVCHD support sometime this Spring.

From what I've read this is pretty accurate.

New technology is such fun!
post #6 of 71
I'm sorry, I misread your post! I thought you were talking about .m2t files, and not .m2ts files (didn't read the fine print late last night!).
You are correct. Vegas does not yet support files from AVCHD and the info about the software update is also correct.

Here is a link to info about a rather complicated way to edit AVCHD files from the Sony HDRSR1:

http://www.jakeludington.com/camcord...amcorders.html
post #7 of 71
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Originally Posted by Kysersose View Post

Can anyone tell me the easiest way to convert a Sony .m2ts file into something a little more common so that I can edit it? Without losing the resolution.

Thanks,

Kyser

Kyser, I use Canopus' Edius Pro 4. That program will either edit the original m2t files or convert them to Canopus' proprietary format and then back to tape. Even using the Canopus transfer, the final result back to tape is absolutely transparent to the naked eye. You can edit without the conversion, but it takes more computer horsepower to handle the m2t files.
post #8 of 71
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Kyser, I use Canopus' Edius Pro 4. That program will either edit the original m2t files or convert them to Canopus' proprietary format and then back to tape. Even using the Canopus transfer, the final result back to tape is absolutely transparent to the naked eye. You can edit without the conversion, but it takes more computer horsepower to handle the m2t files.

Canopus does not do m2tS files. m2tS is what you get when you capture AVCHD to computer... Nothing does m2ts right now.


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....That program will either edit the original m2t files or convert them to Canopus' proprietary format...

What you're talking about is a proxy file...Canopus as well as Ulead Media Studio Pro8 has the DIRECT ability to create proxy files for those with smaller computer systems.... but you can create a proxy file with just about any editor. Some editors (liquid for example) simply don't permit the direct use of proxy files... either your system has got it... or it doesn't.
post #9 of 71
Blackbill, you are correct. I didn't see the 's' at the end of Kyser's 'm2t'.
post #10 of 71
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Blackbill, you are correct. I didn't see the 's' at the end of Kyser's 'm2t'.

Don't blame ya... not hard to miss... I almost missed it the first time around as well.
post #11 of 71
I just picked up my HDR-SR1 and here are the solutions that I have been able to get working.

.m2ts --> .wmv
Windows Media Encoder + K-Lite Codec Pack

I have been able to use this combination and it works well. Encoding to .wmv is nice because I can stream to to my X360 (Media Center Extender)

*I'm not 100% sure that codec pack is making the conversion happen, but I'm pretty sure it is. Make sure to change the file type to *.* in the file open dialog to see the .m2ts files....

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...r/default.mspx
http://www.free-codecs.com/K_Lite_Co...k_download.htm

.m2ts --> .mp4

Nero Recode will convert .m2ts files to .mp4 without a hitch. Good quality, too.

http://www.nero.com/eng/index.html
post #12 of 71
Kyser,
Go to Ulead; and download for free, their Studio 11 Plus. It also keeps AVCHD files with 5.1 audio, in it's original state. You can then convert it to any output format; to Hardrive, DVD, HD DVD etc. It's the first AVCHD editor, that allowed me to trim the front part of the AVCHD files, without crashing, hanging up, losing the video. Their Movie Factory6, didn't work for my AVCHD filesl it hangs up. Sony Vegas, is just for Sony AVCHD cameras.
post #13 of 71
I own the HDR-SR1 and have been able to convert M2TS to .wmv but it required converting to mpeg first, then to .wmv.

I'll have to try that program and codec pack to try direct convert from .m2ts to .wmv.

Does anyone else find it infuriating that Sony would sell a format with no means to edit it except the "program" provided in box?
post #14 of 71
Sony Vegas is fully compatable with the latest version.
post #15 of 71
Ok so Vegas supports AVCHD files from sony cameras and works well.
But i want to edit then render back to .M2ts (AVCHD) and put the edited movie
back on my Camera (SR1) So i can HDMI out to HDTV's and HD Projectors.

Is this possible, if so- when, how?
post #16 of 71
Are you just asking? Have you tried? There is a 30 day full feature free trial. I have a friend who is bringing me her SR1 with a full hard drive. I'm going to see if I can transfer to my 500 Gig harddrive and work with it from there.
post #17 of 71
Yes I have the new vegas version, and have done some quick editing
Its a little choppy on preview- needs to be set at 'draft' to watch as you edit.
I've rendered down to MP4 at 1440x 1080, looks nice, But i wish
I could render in .m2ts format, an get it back on the camera.

Anyone use Magic Bullet with HD files?
I've used it with my sd files to get 24p from interlaced NTSC 29fps and looks nice

Would be great to 1080p these AVCHD files.
post #18 of 71
First, sorry because my english is poor.

I m searching for a encoder mode for the best quality in render in the Vegas, the master is mt2s, iam proved with a lot of codecs variously but i dont arrives to the quality from m2ts, i am bored of doing proves.

Please, some one idea?

Thanks

P.d., I am interisting in recode in m2ts files too, because in a good idea return images in to HDR-SR1e with the edition images.
post #19 of 71
is there an option in Vegas to render to a .m2ts format ? i dont see an option in "Render As" output formats.

earball .. could you please tell us how can it be done...
post #20 of 71
i dont think you can render in m2ts in vegas yet.
sony needs to get on this.
post #21 of 71
After spending hours fooling around with Sony Movie Studio Platinum 8.0..which is advertised all over the box as allowing you to work with AVCHD files from a Sony hd cam (HDR UX1), I finally got through to a tech support person who told me that while the software allows you to import and edit avchd mt2s files, it does not allow you to output or burn them to an avchd disc. This is crazy. My whole reason for buying VMS Platinum was to get the ability to edit these hd files and output them to a disc for hd playback on ps3 or blu ray. The basic software that comes with the HDR UX1 DOES allow you to make an avchd disc which plays at high def in the ps3 and looks very nice. What that software, Picture Motion Browser, does NOT do, is allow you to edit, splice clips, add audio etc. Any help would be very much appreciated.
post #22 of 71
hey guys everyone is talking about getting the movies from the sr1 or sr7 onto a disc, but what if i just want to edit it and lets say put it up on youtube or something.

is the technology to convert the m2ts files released yet or no?
from this thread i am gathering that the Vegas may be able to do it?
thanks
lev
post #23 of 71
Yes, The newest Vegas 7 and Vegas Movie Studio Platinum can edit the m2ts files and render them in a variety of formats. There are also others that can now too.

The trick that I want to do though is render the edited movie back into m2ts so I can play it from my camera (SR1) via HDMI into an LCD/plasma TV. So far I have not found an editor that can render into m2ts and the SR1 will only recognize/play its own proprietary m2ts format.
post #24 of 71
i am trying to do something very simple - can someone help me? i have an hdc-sd1 and i have 2 sdhc cards each which is 8gb...the problem is that both the cards are only half-full, so i want to move all the files to one card...and i am able to copy the files frm one card to another, but the hdc-sd1 does not recognize the new files...can someone help? and sorry for being pushy, but i need to know real soon as i am leaving for a trip real soon...

thanks!
post #25 of 71
10dulkar, what you need is a little utility to rebuild the AVCHD metadata files to match all the MTS files that are present. Unfortunately, something like that doesn't seem to exist yet. I think for now you should empty out both cards by copying them to a PC.
post #26 of 71
no but how do i view the clips on the tv? i can only do it with the camcorder since i dont have an hd player...

so in that case - i will have to change the cards in the camcorder right? i cant just put all the videos in 1 card and then watch it...is that correct?

this is a real bummer!

anyway thanks!
post #27 of 71
Can you use the HD Writer app to copy the files to PC and then back to a single card?
post #28 of 71
Shawn C:

The way you said doesn't work for me.
I downloaded and installed most new K-Lite Codec Pack, and Windows Media Encoder(9.0) next on my XP P4 2.8G machine, then I tried to convert one .m2ts file info wma format, but always get following error:

The file "c:\ mp\\00034.m2ts" is not a valid source file. It may have an unsupported or invalid format or may be corrupted.
The parameter is incorrect.
(0x80070057)
Enter a different file name vefore continuing.


Do I need to set some options, or there are some rules/steps?
post #29 of 71
Shawn C:

The way you said doesn't work for me.
I downloaded and installed most new K-Lite Codec Pack, and Windows Media Encoder(9.0) next on my XP P4 2.8G machine, then I tried to convert one .m2ts file info wma format, but always get following error:

The file "c:\ mp\\00034.m2ts" is not a valid source file. It may have an unsupported or invalid format or may be corrupted.
The parameter is incorrect.
(0x80070057)
Enter a different file name vefore continuing.


Do I need to set some options, or need to follow some rules/steps?

Thanks in advance
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