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post #31 of 62
4/2/07 at 10:02pm
A DSL connection will work fine. I updated my A1 last year when I had 3mbs DSL with no problems. I don't notice any speed difference upgradiing with the 8.8mbs cable connection I'm using now. So it must be downloading the firmware update much slower than 3mbs.
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post #32 of 62
4/3/07 at 4:51am
360 add-on and a no go. So... I should wait for the firmware update and not return or replace the disc? This is the consensus?
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post #33 of 62
4/3/07 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by blueenergy View Post

Wow some people are not cut out to be "early" adopter! Since both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are less than 1% of the total DVD market we are still very early in this brand new technology. There will be some bugs along the way just be glad that some (like this one) can be address with firmware updates. Last year Toshiba worked very hard to resolve numerous issue with the first gen players. As more studios begin to release new titles there may be new issues to deal with. Hopefully things will stabilize going into the holiday season.

I would love to see this title and many more from National Geographic but we will have to wait until May for Gen 2 players.

I guess if someone can tell me why the 1st generation A1 is able to read this disc but a 2nd generation A2 is not I'll quit complaining!

Greg
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post #34 of 62
4/3/07 at 6:28pm
Didn't work on 2 of my 360 drives.
Where's that Spring update!?
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post #35 of 62
4/4/07 at 5:09am
Same here. No go with 360 addon and a PC. Probably it is a problem with new AACS keyes, that is not supported by PowerDVD Ultra (and brings problems for standalone players as well).
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post #36 of 62
4/6/07 at 9:48pm
rented this from Netflix, won't play on my xbox.
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post #37 of 62
4/12/07 at 10:51pm
I just received a copy I ordered during the Warner sale. On an A2, Code 4086 c5tE. The 't' has a bottom line also.

Its ridiculous this disc doesn't play. I'm not sure who to blame most, Toshiba, or whoever is responsible for mastering the disc in HD (National Geographic, Discovery, Warner). But someone dropped the ball. Its absurd this disc won't play on an A2. And now I have to wait six or seven weeks for a fix? I was really looking forward to watching this disc too. (I was also stupid enough to hope it would play at all.)
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post #38 of 62
4/12/07 at 11:52pm
get FW update 1.5
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post #39 of 62
4/13/07 at 5:43am
Firmware v1.5 definitely fixes the problem. My A2 and XA2 will now play this disc after the firmware upgrade. Wasn't Relentless authored in basic and the G@ players wouldn't play those discs? The A1 player would. So they must have fixed this problem with basic audthored discs. I can also no play Discovery Atlas China and Brazil which wouldn't play on my G2 players before either.
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post #40 of 62
4/13/07 at 6:48am
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Originally Posted by cjsm250 View Post

Its ridiculous this disc doesn't play. I'm not sure who to blame most, Toshiba, or whoever is responsible for mastering the disc in HD (National Geographic, Discovery, Warner). But someone dropped the ball. Its absurd this disc won't play on an A2. And now I have to wait six or seven weeks for a fix? I was really looking forward to watching this disc too. (I was also stupid enough to hope it would play at all.)

The whole point now, IMHO, is HD DVD has turned into a crap shoot, in as much as you have NO IDEA if the darn disc you paid good money for will even play. I'd put M$ in the mix also it's their software. The uin titles are just as bad, thank God you can get most of the other titles on BD too. This is a very sad state of affairs me thinks.
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post #41 of 62
4/19/07 at 9:27am
Toshiba released 1.5 last Friday, you should be able to download it from their website, they just don't have a disc yet, they don't even have a part number for the disc yet.

Microsoft support doesn't know anything about this issue, however Toshiba has provided Microsoft with the firmware update, Microsoft needs to adjust it so it plays nice with the 360.
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post #42 of 62
4/20/07 at 2:41pm
Xbox will release an update on May 7 that will address these playback issues, as well as help with the VGA cable color issues.
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post #43 of 62
5/7/07 at 11:12pm
May 7th today and no update for the 360. Any news?
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post #44 of 62
5/10/07 at 7:48pm
Spring update installed and still won't play!
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post #45 of 62
5/10/07 at 7:59pm
Apparently the handful of add on problematic titles are all fixed except "Relentless Enemies" [groans] . Fixed of course with the specific HD DVD update that is suppossed to turn up in the next few days, not the May 7th update that we already got. Why they can get "Relentless Enemies" to play I have no idea... So there it is, still no play for this title on the add on apparently.
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post #46 of 62
5/21/07 at 11:21pm
Any new on this one? Still no go with Xbox addon, PC and the newest PDVD patch.
PDVD only shows a message like this:

"Player application Update

There are new PowerDVD components online.

Would you like to update now?"

Still there is no update available...
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post #47 of 62
5/22/07 at 6:58am
According to some from the insiders thread, the 360 addon will need a firmware update which they don't have a time table for.

I think it may be quite sometime before I can watch my copy.
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post #48 of 62
5/22/07 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by ctiq21 View Post

According to some from the insiders thread, the 360 addon will need a firmware update which they don't have a time table for.

I think it may be quite sometime before I can watch my copy.

bkillian said earlier it needed a firmware update, but Amir says he's not sure what kind of update it will require, firmware or not, and they're still looking into it.
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post #49 of 62
9/11/07 at 4:25pm
Bumping this old thread. Any updates on this disc yet? I got if from Netflix last week (unaware of any issues) of course it wouldn't play, so I sent it back for another one, still no go. Any updates that I am somehow missing for my 360 add-on???
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post #50 of 62
9/11/07 at 8:30pm
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Originally Posted by ctiq21 View Post

According to some from the insiders thread, the 360 addon will need a firmware update which they don't have a time table for.

The add-on does not need any firmware update. It worked just fine on my HTPC with PowerDVD and the add-on. However, your 360 (not the add-on) might need a software update.

That said, you're not missing much. This documentary was awful. The camera work was good but it had cheesy writing, poor organization, continuous repetitive shots of the same stuff, and was about three times as long as it should have been for the material.
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post #51 of 62
9/17/07 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by nm88 View Post

That said, you're not missing much. This documentary was awful. The camera work was good but it had cheesy writing, poor organization, continuous repetitive shots of the same stuff, and was about three times as long as it should have been for the material.

I'll respectfully disagree on this one. Personally, I liked it better than "Planet Earth." I have National Geographic HD. They tend to be more in depth than Discovery. I saw parts of "RE" on the channel before I rented the disc from Netflix. (I believe the thing was $30 at Fry's--a bit much for 2 hrs) If it weren't priced so high, I would add it to my collection.

High Def Digest liked it as well.

It played fine on my A20 a few months ago. I think I was at firmware 2.0 back then.
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post #52 of 62
12/16/07 at 12:23pm
Well, does this title work with the 360 add-on and a fully updated 360 (Current as of December 16)? I don't want to buy this title if it won't work.

Thanks for any info!

-- Alex
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post #53 of 62
12/16/07 at 12:25pm
The big NO.
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post #54 of 62
12/16/07 at 1:39pm
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The big NO.

Thanks for the speedy response!

Later,

Alex
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post #55 of 62
9/23/08 at 10:24am
So anyone have an update on this?...I am thinking of purchasing the Relentless Enemies HD Disc but unclear if firmware has corrected the playback problem

I have both the A2 and XA2 players...Anyone?
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post #56 of 62
9/23/08 at 4:01pm
Relentless Enemies plays fine on a XA2 with 2.7 firmware.
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post #57 of 62
9/24/08 at 7:57am
Plays fine on the A2 as well.
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post #58 of 62
9/24/08 at 10:15am
Appreciate the responses, gratzie
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post #59 of 62
10/15/08 at 7:43pm
This is an amazing title, one of my favorites by far. This along with Eternal Enemies are my two favorite nature DVDs. It plays fine on my A3, have yet to try it on my Xbox Add-On. I will try it tonight and post an update.
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post #60 of 62
10/15/08 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by mosul210 View Post

This is an amazing title, one of my favorites by far. This along with Eternal Enemies are my two favorite nature DVDs. It plays fine on my A3, have yet to try it on my Xbox Add-On. I will try it tonight and post an update.

Doesn't work on the add-on.
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