Originally Posted by JN99
Thanks (I think) - I do try to think about what I type. It doesn't always work but I do try
I really haven't seen you make a point other than challenging mine, so return your hand from its back-patting position. You haven't earned it just yet.
I think the coloration issue is an interesting one and I know there are various opinions on this when it comes to B&W speakers. I'm not a sophisticated enough listener to be able to describe it in absolute terms but there is something there in the B&W speakers that definitely does not sound neutral to me.
And (drum roll).... I agree. Any speaker has its own coloration; the question is which ones are least-harmful. Clearly when any company has to maintain a price point while making improvements, the first thing to be sacrificed is cabinet construction. This is proven repeatedly (although obviously not universally) with many brands. Not surprisingly, the 68s being entry-level suffer the worst. Never did I say they sounded BAD, only worse in comparison to the 68.5-er-the CM series. And never forget that many are fooled into thinking that louder = better.
However, compared to my 2nd choice (Monitor Audio RS6) the 683 simply sounded better to me on some of my lesser recordings (primarily older rock stuff, Stones especially, etc.) and I think this is due in part to their coloration. While perhaps not neutral I just found it to be my preference across the sampling of music I used. Thus I chose the 683 with an eye on upgrading via my dealer's trade up policy to the 800 series if I find am listening enough to warrant it.
True. I think recordings that don't have excess bass pumped into the mix benefit from greater efficiency and a little fast-and-loose bass response. If that is primarily your listening reference, then you made the right choice. This is how Klipsch enjoyed so much success for years.
Originally Posted by JN99
I was simply trying to better understand the design differences that make this comparison "out of scope". That seemed a very simple and straightforward question...
1. The cabinet is far more prominent in tonal coloration on the 68
2. The overall performance in terms of midrange neutrality and bass smoothness is superior as a result.
Nearly everyone that listens to the two comments to this effect without provocation. Clearly, building a better cabinet in one series than the other not only in terms of sonic quality but appearance is no mistake. This has nothing to do with opinion; the problem is that on the internet, everyone's opinion is considered equal no matter the disparity in experience, context, or possession of first hand knowledge from the people that actually build the products.
Enjoy your 68s.