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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Hi, from looking around, I think I know the answer to the question below is "no" but could you all confirm this for me please?

My new laptop has s-video out and vga out and my tv has s-video in plus HDMI and component. obviously i've been using the s-video hook up for windows media center and netflix movies.

Is there any inexpensive way to get a better quality connection between the two?
Sounds like there might be expensive options that might not even work that well, but its not worth it to me based on how much i actually hook them up.

thanks for any feedback
N

(theres also something called an "expansion port 3", but as far as I can tell its just for docking stations, nit video, but I
m not 100% sure about that)
post #2 of 26
Your understanding is correct.

Check out the docking station though. Some of them have dvi.
post #3 of 26
I actually have the same problems too.

I normally connect my laptop with the S-video cable + audio

And I noticed the PQ isn't so good, so ..
I bought a DVI-VGA adapter Link
and a HDMI-DVI cable Link
for my Panasonic 42-60u plasma connected all together.

I dont know what I did .. but my laptop wont recoqnice that I have connected the laptop to the plasma like I ussually do with S-video.

Is it even possible to connect the laptop to a plasma using VGA-DVI adapter + DVI-HDMI cable.

I hope my question makes sense.

ty
post #4 of 26
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Originally Posted by revivalizt View Post

I actually have the same problems too.

I normally connect my laptop with the S-video cable + audio

And I noticed the PQ isn't so good, so ..
I bought a DVI-VGA adapter Link
and a HDMI-DVI cable Link
for my Panasonic 42-60u plasma connected all together.

I dont know what I did .. but my laptop wont recoqnice that I have connected the laptop to the plasma like I ussually do with S-video.

Is it even possible to connect the laptop to a plasma using VGA-DVI adapter + DVI-HDMI cable.

I hope my question makes sense.

ty


No it won't the DVI-VGA adapter you listed is not a convertor. It just reads the VGA analogue signal pins in the DVI port and allows you to connect a VGA monitor or such to a DVI-I port. DVI-I ports on graphics cards contain both DVI and VGA signals in there. The adapter you've bought won't convert VGA to DVI. It's designed to work with a graphics card with a DVI-I port and allow you to connect a normal VGA monitor to a DVI port. If the PC doesn't have DVI-I and is just DVI-D (digital only, though I've never heard of such a port on a PC) then that won't work either.

It definitely doesn't convert VGA to DVI. So that's your problem. You'd need an expensive piece of hardware to convert from VGA to DVI, a transcoder.

You'd in fact need something like this:

http://www.digitalconnection.com/Pro...deo/dcp261.ASP and then plug the DVI to HDMI adapter to the end of it.

NOTE: I've never used this device and have no idea how well it would work.
post #5 of 26
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Originally Posted by NipseyRussell View Post

Hi, from looking around, I think I know the answer to the question below is "no" but could you all confirm this for me please?

My new laptop has s-video out and vga out and my tv has s-video in plus HDMI and component. obviously i've been using the s-video hook up for windows media center and netflix movies.

Is there any inexpensive way to get a better quality connection between the two?
Sounds like there might be expensive options that might not even work that well, but its not worth it to me based on how much i actually hook them up.

thanks for any feedback
N

(theres also something called an "expansion port 3", but as far as I can tell its just for docking stations, nit video, but I
m not 100% sure about that)

You could use a VGA to component adapter like this one:

http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/kd-vtca2.htm

NOTE: I have never used this and have no idea how well it'd work.
post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by sharangad View Post

You could use a VGA to component adapter like this one:

http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/kd-vtca2.htm

NOTE: I have never used this and have no idea how well it'd work.

Here is the newest one http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/KD-VA5.htm
post #7 of 26
post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by sd72667 View Post

Maybe you can give this a try http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=


under description and knowledge base it says this:

"THIS CABLE WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO CONNECT YOUR COMPUTER'S VGA PORT TO THE COMPONENET INPUT ON YOUR HDTV unless your video card supports component out function through it's VGA port (please confirm with your video cards documentation before purchasing)"


I'm so sad cuz the price is sooo good compare to the other links that sharangad gave me.

Is there one VGA to HDMI for latptop to Plasma TV that cost less than $60 maybe?

cuz I think spending $100+ for something like this is kinda big for my pocket.

thank you for all those links .. I really appreciate it.

Maybe I should stick with S-video till I found something cheaper?
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by sync View Post

Check out the docking station though. Some of them have dvi.

This may be correct depending on the model of you laptop and docking station. Some even have digital audio outputs. So instead of surfing around for a work around that may not work. This may be an option you might want to explore.
post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 
thanks, i think this confirms my "fears"
the "Key Digital KD-VA5 " link shows a price of $375 - definitely not worth it for my usage...
the docking station solution is one i had not considered and this seems to be the best solution. If I had other need of one, it would be worth making sure i got one that had some sort of video out....but looks like they would all be over $100, so again not worth it for me right now...
FYI, HP (my brand of laptop) Notebook QuickDock ("Connect a TV or digital projector via the component, composite video, and S-Video ports") is about $130 (the catch being a power cord isnt included)

hmmm....i say it isnt worth it....but i wonder how much better a net flix streaming movie might look through this
post #11 of 26
Hi, Nipsey:

Look closely at your S-Video port. Does it have more than 4 pins?

The S-Video port on my laptop (a Dell), besides having the obligatory 4 pins, had an additional 3 pins. Searching through the Dell manual, I found a reference to an optional component-video adapter cable, available through Dell.

It seems the video chip, made by Intel but similar to many video chips, supports component video output, and that it is now common to provide component video through extra pins on the S-Video connector.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

Hi, Nipsey:

Look closely at your S-Video port. Does it have more than 4 pins?

The S-Video port on my laptop (a Dell), besides having the obligatory 4 pins, had an additional 3 pins. Searching through the Dell manual, I found a reference to an optional component-video adapter cable, available through Dell.

It seems the video chip, made by Intel but similar to many video chips, supports component video output, and that it is now common to provide component video through extra pins on the S-Video connector.

Are you sure the Dell can do component? I bought a dongle for my Dell 9200 last year that attaches to my S-Video and converts to composite and it has a digital audio coax out. I bought it to send audio from my laptop to my receiver, creating a jukebox. I just purchased this to try http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=
post #13 of 26
Hi, sd:

Yes. Here is an excerpt from the manual:
Quote:


Your computer has an S-video TV-out connector that, together with a standard S-video cable, a composite video adapter cable, or a component video adapter cable (available from Dell), enable you to connect the computer to a TV.

And here is the image from the manual showing the component and SPDIF connections:

(Dang, the forum won't let me post an image or a link. oh, well . . .)

The Dell part number for the cable is 310-8272 and it is $10.99
LL
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
the s-video out does have 7 pin holes but i cant find anything about an s-video to component solution that takes advantage of this...

in fact i see websited explaining that the extra pins are for composite (and a composite ground)

the wikipedia entry for s-video does however say "A 7-pin quasi-DIN can also transmit Y'PbPr or RGB component video, though the outputs are usually 3 RCA jacks. Such cables are often provided with video cards."


EDIT - posted this before the second post about the dell thing....anyone have any luck with such a dongle????
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

Hi, sd:

Yes. Here is an excerpt from the manual:And here is the image from the manual showing the component and SPDIF connections:

(Dang, the forum won't let me post an image or a link. oh, well . . .)

The Dell part number for the cable is 310-8272 and it is $10.99

It says it is only compatible with the Dell XPS M1710 Notebook.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by sd72667 View Post

It says it is only compatible with the Dell XPS M1710 Notebook.

But I think they are lying. I think they don't refer to models that are not currently being sold.

My laptop is an Inspiron 6400, and it is supposed to work with it also. I haven't bought it yet, but I suppose I should do that today, just to be sure.
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

But I think they are lying. I think they don't refer to models that are not currently being sold.

My laptop is an Inspiron 6400, and it is supposed to work with it also. I haven't bought it yet, but I suppose I should do that today, just to be sure.

Mark, do you have a DVI output on your Dell? I just received this dongle from Monoprice.com today, http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=
I have not tried it yet. If you get the Dell component dongle, reply back to let us know how it turns out. Thanks
post #18 of 26
Hi, SD, I don't have a DVI, just the VGA and the 7-pin S-Video.

I ordered both the component video adapter (SKU# 310-8272) and the composite video adapter (SKU# 310-8274) today. The sales person said that, even though she did not have a listing for my laptop, both adapters are supposed to work with all of the 7-pin S-video connectors.

It's funny that the composite video adapter was twice the price of the component version. I suspect that it reflects the economies of scale. Composite is probably not very popular.

I should get them early next week and will report back.
post #19 of 26
Thread Starter 
i eagerly await your follow up...not only does it work, but is there a visible improvement in picture quality versus food old s-video

good luck!
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
so, mark, any update??
The real question is: does an s-vid to component adapter provide a better picture than s-vid straight though????? i am not holding out any hope that this is the case at all, to be frank.
BTW, why would you want an s-video to composite adapter....no s-vid input on your TV?
post #21 of 26
Hi Nipsey:

I did receive the adapters from Dell, and they both work. However, when I went to test them, I realized that I don't have any displays here that can accept component in. I was stunned. I've been waiting to get something in to test, but since you asked first:
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Originally Posted by Nipsey View Post

Does an s-vid to component adapter provide a better picture than s-vid straight though?

Looking at the individual component signals on the oscilloscope, yes. The Luminance (Y) signal looks the same on both s-video and component, but the Pr and Pb signals on the component output look to be higher bandwidth. I wish I could see for sure on a real screen.

Another alleged difference is that the s-video signal appears to be limited to NTSC or PAL, whereas the component output is supposed to be capable of HD. I haven't tested that yet, since I have nothing to test with.

What is also interesting is that the video format that is output on the s-video connector is determined be what 75 ohm terminators are detected by the video hardware. I can make the component adapter output s-video or composite video by simply moving a terminator around, and then reseting (disabling/re-enabling) the video output.

Keep in mind this is with an Intel video controller (945GM), and your mileage WILL vary.

It appears that the 7-pin din used as the 's-video' connector may be somewhat standard, as the adapters are not made by Dell, and I've seen the same 7-pin on some ATI cards. I hope to determine the pinouts, as well as the terminator behavior that selects composite / s-video / component mode.
Quote:


BTW, why would you want an s-video to composite adapter....no s-vid input on your TV?

Actually, one task that I will be using this laptop for is calibrating monitors, and most of the monitors are still composite.

I am sending you a PM.
post #22 of 26
I received my 50' HDMI cable and my HDMI switcher/ equalizer and ran the cable through the wall to my HDMI-DVI Laptop from my Plasma. It does work great. I love that HDMI switcher. I can hook up 3 devices and can control it with my Phillips Pronto TSU-7000 remote. Mark, let us know when you hook it up to the tv.
post #23 of 26
OK so I was going to start a new thread but found this one very helpful. I as well have this issue. I am waiting for my new laptop from my work, I am getting this: Dell Latitude D630 Standard Laptop - Standard Config - 14.1"/1.80GHz 800Mhz Dual Core/1GB/80GB (7200rpm)/24XCDRW/DVD/WLAN Intel 3945 802.11a/g/ incl. Nylon carry case - With Vista Business

My question is will this work:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

I have the Hitachi Ultravision 42HDS69 42" Plasma HDTV

PLEASE HELP
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by primetime6 View Post

My question is will this work? :
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

I have the Hitachi Ultravision 42HDS69 42" Plasma HDTV
PLEASE HELP

No.

Your Monoprice link shows a DV-I to component adapter, but neither your laptop nor your Plasma has a DVI-I interface.


Your "42HDS69" has component and hdmi, while your "Latitude - D630" has vga output only.

Unfortunately, you are screwed (if you wanted to output HD quality video) unless you buy one of those expensive vga-to-component converters/transcoders mentioned by some posters in this thread.
post #25 of 26
That is not what I wanted to hear....it would be nice to have it out there so we can watch net flix and shows on ABC we miss
post #26 of 26
Hey guys....been reading your thread. Also interested in hooking up my new Panny 75U to my Gateway laptop with only VGA output. If I settle for less than best resolution, would the VGA to component cable give me any image? What can I expect?
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